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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on March 21, 2023, 05:37:05 PM

Title: Ruto to end treatment of somalis as foreigners - ID pap
Post by: RV Pundit on March 21, 2023, 05:37:05 PM
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https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2023-03-21-north-eastern-residents-to-get-ids-in-21-days/
Title: Re: Ruto to end treatment of somalis as foreigners - ID pap
Post by: sema on March 21, 2023, 05:42:41 PM
Oh..this is terrible news.  Kenya will soon become a majority muslim country and say hello to daily terror attacks after that. Has Ruto lost his mind?

Title: Re: Ruto to end treatment of somalis as foreigners - ID pap
Post by: RV Pundit on March 21, 2023, 05:49:14 PM
When is threshold to become majority muslim and  create terror
Somali total pop is 17M
If they all move to Kenya - they will still not make half the country
Oh..this is terrible news.  Kenya will soon become a majority muslim country and say hello to daily terror attacks after that. Has Ruto lost his mind?
Title: Re: Ruto to end treatment of somalis as foreigners - ID pap
Post by: sema on March 21, 2023, 05:51:42 PM
How will they differentiate between kenyan somali's and people that just crossed the border? Somali's over the course of the last 20/30 years have adopted the extremist jihadism of saudi arabia (because after somalia collapsed, that's where the money was coming from)  The moderate sufism that was part of somali culture has died and this is the problem I have with them today.

Look at pictures of mogadishu in the 60's -- somalia was a moderate, sufi dominated country, but Saudi wahabi money has ruined them.
Title: Re: Ruto to end treatment of somalis as foreigners - ID pap
Post by: RV Pundit on March 21, 2023, 06:15:21 PM
How do we distinguish other tribes with cross border.
Kalenjin in Uganda and Kenya.
Just bring your father or mother ID and birth certificate.
Your school certificate.
Letter from chief or Imam introducing you
Done.

How will they differentiate between kenyan somali's and people that just crossed the border? Somali's over the course of the last 20/30 years have adopted the extremist jihadism of saudi arabia (because after somalia collapsed, that's where the money was coming from)  The moderate sufism that was part of somali culture has died and this is the problem I have with them today.

Look at pictures of mogadishu in the 60's -- somalia was a moderate, sufi dominated country, but Saudi wahabi money has ruined them.
Title: Re: Ruto to end treatment of somalis as foreigners - ID pap
Post by: RV Heavy Hitter! on March 21, 2023, 07:27:57 PM
Somalis are honest people than mainstream Kenyans. If they are born in Kenya, speak swahili,  have have schooled in Kenya, they are Kenyans just like anyone. Somalis from Somalia don't speak swahili or have ties to Kenya unless those that were refugees in Dadaab, and few that crossed the border!
Title: Re: Ruto to end treatment of somalis as foreigners - ID pap
Post by: RV Pundit on March 21, 2023, 07:33:14 PM
Yes and very enterprising.
They dont look for employment.
They do well in business.
We cannot contribute mistreating them.
Somalis are honest people than mainstream Kenyans. If they are born in Kenya, speak swahili,  have have schooled in Kenya, they are Kenyans just like anyone. Somalis from Somalia don't speak swahili or have ties to Kenya unless those that were refugees in Dadaab, and few that crossed the border!

Title: Re: Ruto to end treatment of somalis as foreigners - ID pap
Post by: gout on March 22, 2023, 12:44:45 AM
Mt kenya mafia and supremacists will hate Ndii on twitter for this even more!