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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: audacityofhope on September 02, 2022, 10:32:55 AM

Title: "Jose camargo"
Post by: audacityofhope on September 02, 2022, 10:32:55 AM
Left Handside Bombshell


The footprints that were left behind..... Live!

See attached

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Title: Re: Jose camargo
Post by: audacityofhope on September 02, 2022, 10:42:36 AM
Next example:

A FORM 34A from Bungoma (Mt. Elgon) has same KIEMS Kit ID as one from Nyeri Town - a distance apart of over 600Km!
Title: Re: Jose camargo
Post by: audacityofhope on September 02, 2022, 10:43:54 AM
Soweto answering a question that was asked by the Bench - Koome rules it is NOT new evidence.

I don't see any comeback from this!
Title: Re: Jose camargo
Post by: RV Pundit on September 02, 2022, 10:45:36 AM
This nonsense.Those guys were logistics manager and brought seals...some of them had their names..you cannot introduce evidence at tail end without iebc responding
Title: Re: Jose camargo
Post by: audacityofhope on September 02, 2022, 10:46:24 AM
Kilokumi walks out to go pee .....
Title: Re: Jose camargo
Post by: audacityofhope on September 02, 2022, 10:52:05 AM
This nonsense.Those guys were logistics manager and brought seals...some of them had their names..you cannot introduce evidence at tail end without iebc responding
So you cannot answer a question put to you by the Bench? The question was specific: Provide an example .....

... and what better way than to do it LIVE from the IEBC portal ....

Pundit, we all due respect you are not on the bench. That call will be made (already been made) by the bench.
But this Jose camargo was deported. He was not accredited by IBEC. What is his footprint doing after Aug 9th on the system.
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: RV Pundit on September 02, 2022, 10:56:16 AM
I long checked that guy LinkedIn profile..he is logistics manager for smartmatic whose jobs was distribute kiems kit.Did they have their names on seals..possible
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: bryan274 on September 02, 2022, 10:56:31 AM
Just ot back in... has Barabbas been crucified?  I'm watching from Oraro.  I don;t need to see the defenders of theft.
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: bryan274 on September 02, 2022, 10:57:40 AM
Kilokumi walks out to go pee .....

Nikubaya, eh?
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: audacityofhope on September 02, 2022, 11:10:56 AM
I long checked that guy LinkedIn profile..he is logistics manager for smartmatic whose jobs was distribute kiems kit.Did they have their names on seals..possible

Chebukati did not say what you are telling us:

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Kinoti: No evidence arrested Venezuelans are IEBC or IT firm staff (https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-07-24-kinoti-no-evidence-arrested-venezuelans-are-iebc-or-it-firm-staff/)
In a statement dated July 23, 2022, Kinoti said the Venezuelan nationals; Jose Gregorio Camargo Castellanos, Joel Gustavo Rodriguez Garcia and Salvador Javier Sosa Suarez were arrested after their bag which contained election materials was flagged at the airport.

Kinoti said, upon investigations, police established that the suspects' contracts did not explicitly state they were employees of IEBC or the IT firm contracted to deliver poll materials, as alleged by IEBC chairman Wafula Chebukati.
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: RV Pundit on September 02, 2022, 11:12:13 AM
Smartmatic had local partner...dci cleared them then after election stories restarted
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 02, 2022, 11:20:28 AM

Azimio have decided to turn the case to a political spectacle.
Now from Chebukati to Jose.

Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: RV Pundit on September 02, 2022, 11:22:24 AM
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: RV Pundit on September 02, 2022, 11:22:46 AM
They desperate for anything
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: audacityofhope on September 02, 2022, 11:25:36 AM
Murgor: The Tender document was to provide JPEG. That requirement never changed, yet PDF Form 34As are all over IEBC portal

Murgor: I invite you to try out several software which can edit PDF, among them ADOBE Acrobat PRO DC and other 3rd party software.

I told this forum I have interacted with 3rd party software that could manipulate PDF as far back as year 2000, and pompous pundit told me not to argue with him.

Prior to 2000, all UN payslips were printed on pre-printed paper with 3-part carbon. So costly was this business, it was like tendering for printing of currency that must include security features. My innovation was to use paper AS CHEAP AS A4-paper and apply the security features such as watermarks that were/are inherent in PDF software which had grabbed market share by then. I pursued a copyright on my system with a view of patenting later but the powers that be stood in my way. They nonetheless acknowledge I saved them tons of money.
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 02, 2022, 11:27:57 AM
Muigai seeking clarification from court . says new evidence being introduce.
Ngatia wants opportunity to rebutte the image .says its all over the country. Says its new evidence
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: RV Pundit on September 02, 2022, 11:29:10 AM
You cannot edit image burnt into pdf
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: audacityofhope on September 02, 2022, 11:41:38 AM
You cannot edit image burnt into pdf
Overall, I have never seen a downcast Pundit like the one we have read from in the last 24hrs. I guess the agony will continue until Monday. Then the bench will put him out of his misery.  :roll:
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: audacityofhope on September 02, 2022, 11:42:43 AM
DCJ Mwilu yesterday: Numbers only point to the accuracy of an election. Numbers matter little, if the process has been flawed.
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 02, 2022, 11:44:12 AM
Murgor did even answer the question on editing handwritten text in pdf.
All these software are known I can even add him 20 more and also include you can edit pdf online for free. However editing handwritten text .Not possible.

Murgor: The Tender document was to provide JPEG. That requirement never changed, yet PDF Form 34As are all over IEBC portal

Murgor: I invite you to try out several software which can edit PDF, among them ADOBE Acrobat PRO DC and other 3rd party software.

I told this forum I have interacted with 3rd party software that could manipulate PDF as far back as year 2000, and pompous pundit told me not to argue with him.

Prior to 2000, all UN payslips were printed on pre-printed paper with 3-part carbon. So costly was this business, it was like tendering for printing of currency that must include security features. My innovation was to use paper AS CHEAP AS A4-paper and apply the security features such as watermarks that were/are inherent in PDF software which had grabbed market share by then. I pursued a copyright on my system with a view of patenting later but the powers that be stood in my way. They nonetheless acknowledge I saved them tons of money.
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 02, 2022, 11:46:37 AM
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 02, 2022, 11:50:29 AM
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Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 02, 2022, 11:52:14 AM
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Dear Mami on September 02, 2022, 12:03:56 PM
I heard Jose Camargo forgot to remove a paper with his name from his desk when he took scans of 11,000 forms. Ni kweli? I didn't watch the proceedings but people here are excited. Who watched it? I'm tired of rumors. I want the truth!!! Please don't give me stories, just what happened.
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: bryan274 on September 02, 2022, 01:36:16 PM
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Overall, I have never seen a downcast Pundit like the one we have read from in the last 24hrs. I guess the agony will continue until Monday. Then the bench will put him out of his misery.  :roll:

"Kicheko biggest"

Justice must surely be served.  Everyone involved including the main beneficiary of the massive electoral fraud.
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: bryan274 on September 02, 2022, 01:38:41 PM
I heard Jose Camargo forgot to remove a paper with his name from his desk when he took scans of 11,000 forms. Ni kweli? I didn't watch the proceedings but people here are excited. Who watched it? I'm tired of rumors. I want the truth!!! Please don't give me stories, just what happened.

Oh yes

Jionee hapa.. top left corner.

https://forms.iebc.or.ke/form/formA/1_34_A_021104051702602_Y3KJ11BPAEA00EY_20220810_000052.PDF


Carmago was a super RO for the electoral fraudsters. 
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Higgins the genius on September 02, 2022, 01:50:47 PM
All the register covers had the name.
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 02, 2022, 01:58:43 PM
Oh yes, emotionally attached nowonder you buy into propaganda
Reality had put into the previous posts but  all uou want to hear is Jose

I heard Jose Camargo forgot to remove a paper with his name from his desk when he took scans of 11,000 forms. Ni kweli? I didn't watch the proceedings but people here are excited. Who watched it? I'm tired of rumors. I want the truth!!! Please don't give me stories, just what happened.
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Dear Mami on September 02, 2022, 02:26:05 PM
Noway, you're so unnecessarily rude. I came here because I was avoiding Twitter, FB, etc and the people around me. Was hoping I'd be told things straight here. No I didn't go through your Twitter feed because I just wanted someone to tell me soberly what all the excitement is about and if it's true. Donge?
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 02, 2022, 02:36:57 PM

We are only 4 or so people in this thread and you said based on the posts there was excitment . Half the posts had showed what had teanspired. Why Joses name was in scan.You avoided those posts ?

Okay now that you are aware , whats your take ?

Noway, you're so unnecessarily rude. I came here because I was avoiding Twitter, FB, etc and the people around me. Was hoping I'd be told things straight here. No I didn't go through your Twitter feed because I just wanted someone to tell me soberly what all the excitement is about and if it's true. Donge?
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: RV Pundit on September 02, 2022, 02:38:22 PM
The desperation from Azimio to present forgeries,lies and almost anything they latch onto is not shocking..it's character of Raila
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 02, 2022, 02:41:31 PM

Nowonder Raila has them on Chokehold. He just throws one lie and they get excited and believe. Now they have a song which will drive them till 2027 Jose Venezuelan rigged election for Ruto. Come 2027 they will make the same mistakes just like 2007,2013,201 and now 2022

The desperation from Azimio to present forgeries,lies and almost anything they latch onto is not shocking..it's character of Raila
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Dear Mami on September 02, 2022, 02:45:04 PM

We are only 4 or so people in this thread and you said based on the posts there was excitment . Half the posts had showed what had teanspired. Why Joses name was in scan.You avoided those posts ?

Okay now that you are aware , whats your take ?

Noway, you're so unnecessarily rude. I came here because I was avoiding Twitter, FB, etc and the people around me. Was hoping I'd be told things straight here. No I didn't go through your Twitter feed because I just wanted someone to tell me soberly what all the excitement is about and if it's true. Donge?

No, I didn't say the people in this thread were happy. I said the people here (around me, where I am, not online) and they didn't have facts and I couldn't go to YouTube so I decided to ask here what the facts were.
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 02, 2022, 02:49:07 PM
I heard Jose Camargo forgot to remove a paper with his name from his desk when he took scans of 11,000 forms. Ni kweli? I didn't watch the proceedings but people here are excited. Who watched it? I'm tired of rumors. I want the truth!!! Please don't give me stories, just what happened.

Julie Soweto showed the court 2 different Form 34As "sent from the same KIEMS kit".  If true, then the name Jose Camargo is merely mchuzi.  Like I mention elsewhere, this discussion(alongside attendant obfuscation) dies the moment you avail contested KIEMS kit files for comparison with the ones on the server.
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: KenyanPlato on September 02, 2022, 02:57:55 PM
I heard Jose Camargo forgot to remove a paper with his name from his desk when he took scans of 11,000 forms. Ni kweli? I didn't watch the proceedings but people here are excited. Who watched it? I'm tired of rumors. I want the truth!!! Please don't give me stories, just what happened.

Julie Soweto showed the court 2 different Form 34As "sent from the same KIEMS kit".  If true, then the name Jose Camargo is merely mchuzi.  Like I mention elsewhere, this discussion(alongside attendant obfuscation) dies the moment you avail contested KIEMS kit files for comparison with the ones on the server.

that is a forensic audit that Soweto presented. a clear presentation of how and why this happened...I want iebc to rebut this

https://nation.africa/kenya/videos/news/ruto-s-lawyer-blocked-from-responding-to-jose-camargo-claims-3934880
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 02, 2022, 03:02:59 PM
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I heard Jose Camargo forgot to remove a paper with his name from his desk when he took scans of 11,000 forms. Ni kweli? I didn't watch the proceedings but people here are excited. Who watched it? I'm tired of rumors. I want the truth!!! Please don't give me stories, just what happened.

Julie Soweto showed the court 2 different Form 34As "sent from the same KIEMS kit".  If true, then the name Jose Camargo is merely mchuzi.  Like I mention elsewhere, this discussion(alongside attendant obfuscation) dies the moment you avail contested KIEMS kit files for comparison with the ones on the server.
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Nowayhaha on September 02, 2022, 03:30:38 PM
IEBC Lawyer presenting documents original form vis a vis on portal. Orengo tries to intercept.
Muigai comes out blazing.
It was a propaganda tool .
Orengo stands up again . They only card exposed.

Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Dear Mami on September 02, 2022, 03:43:24 PM
I heard Jose Camargo forgot to remove a paper with his name from his desk when he took scans of 11,000 forms. Ni kweli? I didn't watch the proceedings but people here are excited. Who watched it? I'm tired of rumors. I want the truth!!! Please don't give me stories, just what happened.

Julie Soweto showed the court 2 different Form 34As "sent from the same KIEMS kit".  If true, then the name Jose Camargo is merely mchuzi.  Like I mention elsewhere, this discussion(alongside attendant obfuscation) dies the moment you avail contested KIEMS kit files for comparison with the ones on the server.

So the 11,000 number being bandied about came from where?
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 02, 2022, 03:48:10 PM
I heard Jose Camargo forgot to remove a paper with his name from his desk when he took scans of 11,000 forms. Ni kweli? I didn't watch the proceedings but people here are excited. Who watched it? I'm tired of rumors. I want the truth!!! Please don't give me stories, just what happened.

Julie Soweto showed the court 2 different Form 34As "sent from the same KIEMS kit".  If true, then the name Jose Camargo is merely mchuzi.  Like I mention elsewhere, this discussion(alongside attendant obfuscation) dies the moment you avail contested KIEMS kit files for comparison with the ones on the server.

So the 11,000 number being bandied about came from where?

I have not heard anything about that.
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 02, 2022, 03:53:56 PM
I heard Jose Camargo forgot to remove a paper with his name from his desk when he took scans of 11,000 forms. Ni kweli? I didn't watch the proceedings but people here are excited. Who watched it? I'm tired of rumors. I want the truth!!! Please don't give me stories, just what happened.

Julie Soweto showed the court 2 different Form 34As "sent from the same KIEMS kit".  If true, then the name Jose Camargo is merely mchuzi.  Like I mention elsewhere, this discussion(alongside attendant obfuscation) dies the moment you avail contested KIEMS kit files for comparison with the ones on the server.

that is a forensic audit that Soweto presented. a clear presentation of how and why this happened...I want iebc to rebut this

https://nation.africa/kenya/videos/news/ruto-s-lawyer-blocked-from-responding-to-jose-camargo-claims-3934880 (https://nation.africa/kenya/videos/news/ruto-s-lawyer-blocked-from-responding-to-jose-camargo-claims-3934880)

Putting myself in their shoes, I think IEBC can rebut by showing that the forms on the KIEMS kit from those polling stations are identical to those on the browser.  And that the identifying information in the url is of secondary relevance.   Worst case they can just say those are not enough to change the result and cross their fingers(right now it's just about swaying the undecided on the bench one way or another).
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: RV Pundit on September 02, 2022, 03:55:10 PM
Iebc have agreed to bring kiems kit..of two polling stations.Again the case is on the petition...these are just drama
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Dear Mami on September 02, 2022, 03:56:23 PM
Iebc have agreed to bring kiems kit..of two polling stations.Again the case is on the petition...these are just drama

Why two? They should do a random sample.
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: GeeMail on September 02, 2022, 05:32:48 PM
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Overall, I have never seen a downcast Pundit like the one we have read from in the last 24hrs. I guess the agony will continue until Monday. Then the bench will put him out of his misery.  :roll:

I feel sorry for him. He lost it calling people to be shot, threatening everyone including Rigathi Gachagua and people from Mt Kenya. Now Mbus has cheered him up a little by defecting to Karen Jose Carmango. Lets not rub it in.
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: bryan274 on September 02, 2022, 06:07:01 PM
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Overall, I have never seen a downcast Pundit like the one we have read from in the last 24hrs. I guess the agony will continue until Monday. Then the bench will put him out of his misery.  :roll:

I feel sorry for him. He lost it calling people to be shot, threatening everyone including Rigathi Gachagua and people from Mt Kenya. Now Mbus has cheered him up a little by defecting to Karen Jose Carmango. Lets not rub it in.

These elections are cleansing Azimio proper.  By the end of this period, all criminals will be hemmed in at Karen.  They'll be very easy to spot in their garishly yellow t-shirts.  We the people can turn Karen into an open prison and jail them all there. 

 
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 02, 2022, 06:19:02 PM
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Overall, I have never seen a downcast Pundit like the one we have read from in the last 24hrs. I guess the agony will continue until Monday. Then the bench will put him out of his misery.  :roll:

I feel sorry for him. He lost it calling people to be shot, threatening everyone including Rigathi Gachagua and people from Mt Kenya. Now Mbus has cheered him up a little by defecting to Karen Jose Carmango. Lets not rub it in.

These elections are cleansing Azimio proper.  By the end of this period, all criminals will be hemmed in at Karen.  They'll be very easy to spot in their garishly yellow t-shirts.  We the people can turn Karen into an open prison and jail them all there. 

 

Mbus has always been a known snake(from among the earlier so called liberators).  Very few have retained their reputation.  Some have gone mad from just dealing with all the subterfuge.
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: bryan274 on September 02, 2022, 06:26:57 PM
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Overall, I have never seen a downcast Pundit like the one we have read from in the last 24hrs. I guess the agony will continue until Monday. Then the bench will put him out of his misery.  :roll:

I feel sorry for him. He lost it calling people to be shot, threatening everyone including Rigathi Gachagua and people from Mt Kenya. Now Mbus has cheered him up a little by defecting to Karen Jose Carmango. Lets not rub it in.

These elections are cleansing Azimio proper.  By the end of this period, all criminals will be hemmed in at Karen.  They'll be very easy to spot in their garishly yellow t-shirts.  We the people can turn Karen into an open prison and jail them all there. 

 

Mbus has always been a known snake(from among the earlier so called liberators).  Very few have retained their reputation.  Some have gone mad from just dealing with all the subterfuge.

Quite.... Have you seen what's happened to Ndii and the Switch of Stima lady?  Gosh
Title: Re: "Jose camargo"
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on September 02, 2022, 06:30:54 PM
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Overall, I have never seen a downcast Pundit like the one we have read from in the last 24hrs. I guess the agony will continue until Monday. Then the bench will put him out of his misery.  :roll:

I feel sorry for him. He lost it calling people to be shot, threatening everyone including Rigathi Gachagua and people from Mt Kenya. Now Mbus has cheered him up a little by defecting to Karen Jose Carmango. Lets not rub it in.

These elections are cleansing Azimio proper.  By the end of this period, all criminals will be hemmed in at Karen.  They'll be very easy to spot in their garishly yellow t-shirts.  We the people can turn Karen into an open prison and jail them all there. 

 

Mbus has always been a known snake(from among the earlier so called liberators).  Very few have retained their reputation.  Some have gone mad from just dealing with all the subterfuge.

Quite.... Have you seen what's happened to Ndii and the Switch of Stima lady?  Gosh

Ndii seems to have an axe to grind with the Kenyattas.  The man can hold a grudge.  Who is the stima lady?