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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Omollo on November 23, 2014, 04:24:58 PM

Title: KDF Robbing Baringo Peasants in Broad Daylight
Post by: Omollo on November 23, 2014, 04:24:58 PM
There is no charcoal in Baringo so they have set about dispossessing the Pokot. They are stealing their animals and blackmailing them by holding their children and wives hostage in case they stage a recovery attack on the cowards. They then ship the animals to the market. Already 38 cows have been "discovered" in Lanet Barracks - the share of the loot for some senior officer there.

I can see this area really voting for Uhuru in droves come 2017. They will leave their poverty stricken homes just to vote for the man responsible for their suffering.

I am sure the bandits are learning fast.
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KDF now accused of scaring away villagers, looting at volatile Tiaty
BY VINCENT MABATUK AND LEONARD KULEI Updated Sunday, November 23rd 2014 at 00:00 GMT +3

Tension was high Saturday between residents of Chesitet in Tiaty, Baringo County and Kenya Defence Forces ( KDF) officers undertaking a security operation. The officers reportedly stormed Natan, Chesitet, Chepkow and Napeikore villages, in Silale ward and drove more than 2,000 goats and unknown number of cattle to Chesitet barracks.

Residents claimed the military launched missiles, scaring residents who had been mobilised to confront the officers. Mr Carlos Kapkoikat, a resident who escaped the swoop, said about four choppers hovered in the skies for the better part of yesterday as soldiers on foot moved from one homestead to the other and rounded up women and children.

“They are holding our children and women at the barracks,” he said.

East Pokot Deputy Commissioner Daniel Kirui confirmed the attack, but, could not comment on the matter, saying ‘the military head of operation was best placed to comment on the matter’.

Kapedo East chief Lomunasiwa Lotlemuria, who spoke to The Standard on Sunday from the bush where he was hiding, said KDF was continuing with the raids rounding up villagers with their livestock. “Men are in the bush. It is a disaster here and we fear the worst is yet to happen,” Lotlemuria said.

Nelson Lotellah, Silale ward representative, where the assault took place, said the incident was a provocation of the community. “Livestock in Pokot is an equivalent of life. Taking their animals is an abomination. This is utterly unfair,” said Lotellah. He appealed to the military to release the families and find other ways of flushing out criminals.

“The community has surrendered the 21 guns, which were taken from the slain 21 officers. We appeal that the military be withdrawn if they are now mistreating our women and children,” said Lottellah.

Mysterious discovery

Yesterday’s military assault comes two days after a section of Pokot leaders demanded an investigation over a mysterious discovery of 38 cows at Lanet Barracks in Nakuru County. The cows, according to the leaders, were snatched at Chesakam area during in incident in which 78 cattle were allegedly shot dead by suspected KDF soldiers along Chemolingot- Kapedo road.


Read more at: http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/thecounties/article/2000142243/kdf-now-accused-of-scaring-away-villagers-looting-at-volatile-tiaty
Title: Re: KDF Robbing Baringo Peasants in Broad Daylight
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on November 23, 2014, 08:06:53 PM
If they recovered the guns.  What exactly is the ongoing operation about?
Title: Re: KDF Robbing Baringo Peasants in Broad Daylight
Post by: TheDayTheDollarDies on November 23, 2014, 10:06:30 PM
Good job
Title: Re: KDF Robbing Baringo Peasants in Broad Daylight
Post by: RV Pundit on November 23, 2014, 10:51:35 PM
For a long time we thought KDF were discplined and proffesional... we are realising they are just like the rest of GoK. We were naive.
Title: Re: KDF Robbing Baringo Peasants in Broad Daylight
Post by: Omollo on November 24, 2014, 01:20:30 AM
This realization should come with a great shock and urgency. Unfortunately few see the dangers of such an ill-mannered force. The military has achieved it's greatest reward - homage from partisan interests. Here is how it works Pundito:

1. Now it has tilted towards Jubilee. It's misdeeds can be defended and protected by Jubilee
2. Tomorrow, should Jubilee get in bad books or its usefulness diminish, the military would act with full support of say CORD - happy to see the other gang depart
3. Thus is born the interventionist military which encourages and promotes political rancour and then emerges as an "arbiter" only far from disinterested!


For a long time we thought KDF were discplined and proffesional... we are realising they are just like the rest of GoK. We were naive.
Title: Re: KDF Robbing Baringo Peasants in Broad Daylight
Post by: TheDayTheDollarDies on November 24, 2014, 07:21:04 AM
They should steal more cattle. When pokots know that every time they steal 100 cattle and 24 guns, they'll lose 10,000 cattle and 280 guns, then they'll stop. Once KDF reaches the 10000 cattle target mark, they should now concentrate on getting 280 guns. They should know that KDF are the ultimate warriors :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: KDF Robbing Baringo Peasants in Broad Daylight
Post by: gout on November 24, 2014, 08:02:54 AM
KDF are just equal sons and daughters from the same womb ....they are no different from touts, politicians, kanyaris, kitu kidogo ..... the more they get out of barracks the more we get to see their true colours
Title: Re: KDF Robbing Baringo Peasants in Broad Daylight
Post by: TheDayTheDollarDies on November 24, 2014, 08:34:43 AM
“THE COMMUNITY has surrendered the 21 guns, which were taken from the slain 21 officers. We appeal that the military be withdrawn if they are now mistreating our women and children,” said Lottellah.

When are you going to surrender the names of the people who killed the officers?
Title: Re: KDF Robbing Baringo Peasants in Broad Daylight
Post by: RV Pundit on November 24, 2014, 09:20:05 AM
This might work. Although illegal. This is what Brits essentially did to tame most of our African tribes. At one point the Brits had become accomplished cattle rustlers.
They should steal more cattle. When pokots know that every time they steal 100 cattle and 24 guns, they'll lose 10,000 cattle and 280 guns, then they'll stop. Once KDF reaches the 10000 cattle target mark, they should now concentrate on getting 280 guns. They should know that KDF are the ultimate warriors :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: KDF Robbing Baringo Peasants in Broad Daylight
Post by: gout on November 24, 2014, 10:19:01 AM
scorched earth policy is a viable option where the criminals are embedded within the community .... whether it work for mwafrika with crazy ideology like in North Rift/NEP/Lamu/Coast where even when the economy is crippled and yet the community still doesn't get tired of the cattle rustlers or the radical islamist youths
Title: Re: KDF Robbing Baringo Peasants in Broad Daylight
Post by: Georgesoros on November 24, 2014, 08:35:41 PM
With the blessing of Uhuru, they break the law.  But they dont know that they can be brought to justice and end up losing all they worked for.
Title: Re: KDF Robbing Baringo Peasants in Broad Daylight
Post by: Omollo on November 24, 2014, 10:53:34 PM
Such a policy can only be carried out with massive violations of human rights and potentially introduce ICC Phase II. I know it is the British doctrine and blue print for defeating insurgency. They could not do it in Iraq because they lacked one ingredient: The opaque advantage of a colonial state. In simple terms it means declaring and executing war against civilians.

scorched earth policy is a viable option where the criminals are embedded within the community .... whether it work for mwafrika with crazy ideology like in North Rift/NEP/Lamu/Coast where even when the economy is crippled and yet the community still doesn't get tired of the cattle rustlers or the radical islamist youths
Title: Re: KDF Robbing Baringo Peasants in Broad Daylight
Post by: RV Pundit on November 25, 2014, 11:16:48 AM
What those pokotos of tiaty have done to tugen and esp ilchamus is nothing compared to what KDF has done to them. Pokot have to know their lifestyle is no longer acceptable. This yr alone they've move Ilchamus 60km away from their border. Personally am conflicted on what need to be done to Pokots...but so fa i think KDF have done anything that evil.
Title: Re: KDF Robbing Baringo Peasants in Broad Daylight
Post by: Georgesoros on November 26, 2014, 09:10:33 PM
Pundit
KDF is a govt. They are suposed to follow the law not break it while trying to enforce it!!!