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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Stockguru on August 17, 2022, 04:54:12 PM

Title: Being a woman in leadership of IEBC should be considered the worst career move
Post by: Stockguru on August 17, 2022, 04:54:12 PM
That Cherere woman is no getting insulted all over with people claiming she is Joho's girlfriend

It is sad if this woman is actually someone decent and may even be married

Our society really despises women.

I haven't seen even one person try to give this woman the benefit of doubt

She may be misguided in her stand today but she should be given a chance to be heard

Akombe and other 3 women suffered similar fate in 2016/17. Akombe got so scared she bolted away
Title: Re: Being a woman in leadership of IEBC should be considered the worst career move
Post by: RV Pundit on August 17, 2022, 05:41:10 PM
Such women disgrace fellow women - instead of proving strong, brave and capable.
They rollback gains women have made.
Title: Re: Being a woman in leadership of IEBC should be considered the worst career move
Post by: Dear Mami on August 17, 2022, 07:51:28 PM

Our society really despises women.

I haven't seen even one person try to give this woman the benefit of doubt

.....

Akombe and other 3 women suffered similar fate in 2016/17. Akombe got so scared she bolted away

100%, Stockguru. The contempt for women can also be seen in how women wrong-doers at the Judiciary have been treated vis-a-vis their male counterparts. The first Deputy of the SCORK, even Shollei. Not saying it wasn't bad what they did; just that there's a stark contrast with how males are treated when found with dirt or other misbehavior.

Another thing, as bad as this is, it's ten times worse when the woman is unmarried/childless. She's almost not a person anymore. Even by their own families of origin. It's really bad. There's nothing like this in the west. At least, it's not as bad.

Another: I've always noticed how men talk about women they consider unattractive. It's not just a description of their perefences. Honestly, it's almost dehumanizing. It's like some men can't see an "ugly" woman (in their eyes) as a complete human being first.

Btw, I'm no feminist. Certainly not of the third-wave variety I consider anti-human, anyway.
Title: Re: Being a woman in leadership of IEBC should be considered the worst career move
Post by: KenyanPlato on August 17, 2022, 08:24:01 PM

Our society really despises women.

I haven't seen even one person try to give this woman the benefit of doubt

.....

Akombe and other 3 women suffered similar fate in 2016/17. Akombe got so scared she bolted away

100%, Stockguru. The contempt for women can also be seen in how women wrong-doers at the Judiciary have been treated vis-a-vis their male counterparts. The first Deputy of the SCORK, even Shollei. Not saying it wasn't bad what they did; just that there's a stark contrast with how males are treated when found with dirt or other misbehavior.

Another thing, as bad as this is, it's ten times worse when the woman is unmarried/childless. She's almost not a person anymore. Even by their own families of origin. It's really bad. There's nothing like this in the west. At least, it's not as bad.

Another: I've always noticed how men talk about women they consider unattractive. It's not just a description of their perefences. Honestly, it's almost dehumanizing. It's like some men can't see an "ugly" woman (in their eyes) as a complete human being first.

Btw, I'm no feminist. Certainly not of the third-wave variety I consider anti-human, anyway.

it is really sad. the way we treat women says a lot about us as a people. this week has been hard on me. I just learnt that my childhood friend dad used to physically assualt them as kids even when her mum had a wound and was dying from cancer, the monster would beat the mum up and  kids every time he got drunk. my friend had 7 surgeries 5 years after her mum died because she developed very bad ulcers. I tried to help her but she wouldn't allow me to airlift her out of kenya.

in my village 3 women I know were killed by domestic abusers. the abuse is not widely known because those that were supposed fo protect these women did nothing.

the attitude towards the women iebc commissioners have really opened my eyes on how in public office women are treated like shit.

no man on this board would love women he loves to be called all manner of names for taking a stand on principle even if the stand is misguided

we need to embrace our women. protect them and love them more

I am sorry for having been an arse to women
Title: Re: Being a woman in leadership of IEBC should be considered the worst career move
Post by: Dear Mami on August 17, 2022, 11:22:52 PM

the attitude towards the women iebc commissioners have really opened my eyes on how in public office women are treated like shit.

no man on this board would love women he loves to be called all manner of names for taking a stand on principle even if the stand is misguided

She mistook 0.01 (which is 1 out of 100 or 1%) with 0.01% (which is 0.01 out of 100 or 1% of 1%, which in decimal should be 0.0001). Or one of her math people made that mistake and she didn't notice because she also mixed up 0.01 with 0.01%. She should've been more careful, given her position and the public statement and deserves some of the backlash she's gotten, but I agree with you that its likely gone overboard (haven't been looking at it on social media, tbh) given, well, yanno, Kenyans. I am able to empathize with her because frankly I did confuse 0.01 with 0.01% at first, as well, be4 I noticed the numbers didn't make sense.
Title: Re: Being a woman in leadership of IEBC should be considered the worst career move
Post by: KenyanPlato on August 18, 2022, 12:09:05 AM
if you do not work with numbers daily like I do a mistake like tur one she made is easy to make. whoever drafted her statement didn't do her justice.
Title: Re: Being a woman in leadership of IEBC should be considered the worst career move
Post by: patel on August 18, 2022, 04:52:45 AM
High stakes game you have to bring your A game. These fuckers almost threw the country into a crisis due to their 'opaque reasoning. Chebukati told them time and again the results were on form 34A and all they were doing in Bomas is to verify and 2nd grade math additions...instead they waited until last minute with some hidden agenda. They deserve everything coming their way. Na bado they will be fired and sued. Am surprised charges have not been filed for those who caused violence at Bomas and destroyed property..
Title: Re: Being a woman in leadership of IEBC should be considered the worst career move
Post by: High Roller on August 18, 2022, 06:31:52 AM

Our society really despises women.

I haven't seen even one person try to give this woman the benefit of doubt

.....

Akombe and other 3 women suffered similar fate in 2016/17. Akombe got so scared she bolted away

100%, Stockguru. The contempt for women can also be seen in how women wrong-doers at the Judiciary have been treated vis-a-vis their male counterparts. The first Deputy of the SCORK, even Shollei. Not saying it wasn't bad what they did; just that there's a stark contrast with how males are treated when found with dirt or other misbehavior.

Another thing, as bad as this is, it's ten times worse when the woman is unmarried/childless. She's almost not a person anymore. Even by their own families of origin. It's really bad. There's nothing like this in the west. At least, it's not as bad.

Another: I've always noticed how men talk about women they consider unattractive. It's not just a description of their perefences. Honestly, it's almost dehumanizing. It's like some men can't see an "ugly" woman (in their eyes) as a complete human being first.

Btw, I'm no feminist. Certainly not of the third-wave variety I consider anti-human, anyway.

it is really sad. the way we treat women says a lot about us as a people. this week has been hard on me. I just learnt that my childhood friend dad used to physically assualt them as kids even when her mum had a wound and was dying from cancer, the monster would beat the mum up and  kids every time he got drunk. my friend had 7 surgeries 5 years after her mum died because she developed very bad ulcers. I tried to help her but she wouldn't allow me to airlift her out of kenya.

in my village 3 women I know were killed by domestic abusers. the abuse is not widely known because those that were supposed fo protect these women did nothing.

the attitude towards the women iebc commissioners have really opened my eyes on how in public office women are treated like shit.

no man on this board would love women he loves to be called all manner of names for taking a stand on principle even if the stand is misguided

we need to embrace our women. protect them and love them more

I am sorry for having been an arse to women

Most African women are victims of domestic violence with abusive husbands, who will regularly assault them. They are at their mercy and secretive about what is going on in their marriage. They don’t tell relatives and friends what they are going through. I only know this because I got a first-hand glimpse into what is happening in most marriages when I was a young boy. We used to live next to this wealthy, highly respected and educated man with a PhD from George Washington university who will physically abuse his wife on many occasions. He will beat her in front of the children. Then apologize and buy her gifts the next day. He used money to control and exert power over her. Everyone in the neighborhood was saying, why doesn’t she leave the marriage, the abusive relationship, divorce is an option and so on. Looking back, probably she was terrified to leave. She didn't have a choice and had no support. African women will be bleeding from the mouth, one arm off, but they are still going to put that dinner on the table. It’s just that they are in tune to do instead of taking care of themselves first. Their challenge is society. African society keeps pointing fingers at women who get married and then leave, especially if they leave because of abuse.  As a man, I cannot stand men who perpetrate crimes against women and those who do nothing to stop it.
Title: Re: Being a woman in leadership of IEBC should be considered the worst career move
Post by: KenyanPlato on August 18, 2022, 06:57:34 AM
you case is similar to my neighbor abuse. in hid case he was a very successful business mam controlling Bata distribution system and store in rift Valley. he would buy the kids the most expensive toys after abusing them. my buddy would get an allowance for lunch of 200 shs that was in the 80s so lunch was about 4 shs. we would spend this money on silly stuff. when my buddy became a teenager he realized what his dad was doing and he started to fight back. after he graduated college there were two fights where he almost killed his dad. his dad being a narcissist now would use his wealth as a way to control my buddy. my buddy to deal with trauma turned into alcohol and he is in really bad shape last I saw him he shakes like a leaf. his dad is still abusing the family even at 80s. I have a plan to get the sister to go public soon about her being abused by him. she is think over my proposal. I want this man in jail or dead. fuck him