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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: Nowayhaha on June 13, 2022, 12:20:37 PM

Title: NATO telle Ukraine Cede Territory and Sovreignity For Peace
Post by: Nowayhaha on June 13, 2022, 12:20:37 PM
https://www.rt.com/news/557057-stoltenberg-ukraine-give-territory/

Stoltenberg spoke at the Kultaranta Talks in Finland, following a meeting with Finnish President Sauli Niinisto. While the NATO chief said that the West was willing to “pay a price” to strengthen the Ukrainian military, Kiev will have to make some territorial concessions to Moscow in order to end the current conflict.

“Peace is possible,” he said. “The only question is what price are you willing to pay for peace? How much territory, how much independence, how much sovereignty…are you willing to sacrifice for peace?”



Title: Re: NATO telle Ukraine Cede Territory and Sovreignity For Peace
Post by: Nowayhaha on June 13, 2022, 12:28:43 PM
So far Ukraine Has lost Lugansk, Donetsk, Kherson,Zaporizhizjia. Oblasts(Provinces).
The more the war continues they will lose Mykolyaiv, Kirovgrad,Dnipropertovsk, Kharkiv,Summy, Cherniv and Poltava.

In 2014 they did a Genious move by signing Minsk deal which gave them more time to regroup, rearm and retrain.
If Zelensky had just accepted for Neutrality they would still be defacto leaders of Donbass. A big Miscalculation for them and Europe.
Title: Re: NATO telle Ukraine Cede Territory and Sovreignity For Peace
Post by: RV Pundit on June 13, 2022, 12:31:17 PM
This is become a world proxy war as western countries aid ukraine.
Russia at some point will escalate by hitting poland.
or sinking a western country ship.
And the shiet will hit the fan.
Title: Re: NATO telle Ukraine Cede Territory and Sovreignity For Peace
Post by: Kadudu on June 13, 2022, 12:36:22 PM
Stop dreaming. If Russia has a big problem with the Ukraine military, how in this world would it even take on a NATO member?

This is become a world proxy war as western countries aid ukraine.
Russia at some point will escalate by hitting poland.
or sinking a western country ship.
And the shiet will hit the fan.
Title: Re: NATO telle Ukraine Cede Territory and Sovreignity For Peace
Post by: RV Pundit on June 13, 2022, 01:06:37 PM
They only way to stop this war is escalating it.
NATO will think NUCLEAR
Otherwise the way I see - this will continue because Ukraine is getting arms supply - and Russia is fighting NATO already except it's proxy war.
At some point Russia will have to hit countries supporting Ukraine.
And Poland seem the 1st target if Russia want to escalate this.
That will see NATO and RUSSIA rushing to negotiation table.
Because a Nuclear War is not an option.

Otherwise this will continue for quite sometime.
Russia cannot accept defeat in Ukraine.
Ukraine have dogged in and are well armed by NATO even without a treaty.

Stop dreaming. If Russia has a big problem with the Ukraine military, how in this world would it even take on a NATO member?