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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on May 06, 2022, 11:51:22 AM

Title: US summon KDF - and tell we are watching you
Post by: RV Pundit on May 06, 2022, 11:51:22 AM
No monkey games.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2022-05-06-kdf-boss-kibochi-us-defense-chief-meet-at-pentagon/
Title: Re: US summon KDF - and tell we are watching you
Post by: Kadudu on May 06, 2022, 12:08:43 PM
You are reading too much about this meeting. One thing you should know, the US armed forces do not discuss politics. The US Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark A. Milley is a Donald trump appointee. He is obligated to remain neutral to politics and even Joe Biden would not think of replacing him with another general. His loyalty to the US government is taken for granted no matter which political party has the current president.

Foreign policy in the US is to 100% in the hands of the Foreign Department. If kenya was to be warned, then that would be the work of the Foreign Sectretary or his immediate surbodinates and not the armed forces.

In short, leave your Kenyan mentality in Kenya.
Title: Re: US summon KDF - and tell we are watching you
Post by: RV Pundit on May 06, 2022, 12:24:20 PM
Foreign Affairs determine what action need to be taken based on CIA intelligence. US knows every minute details of what Uhuru is planning. If they know KDF are being involved - CIA will arrange for US military to summon KDF and be given a warning. US interest is keep Kenya peaceful - after Ethiopia gone kaput - Kenya is now more important than before.
You are reading too much about this meeting. One thing you should know, the US armed forces do not discuss politics. The US Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark A. Milley is a Donald trump appointee. He is obligated to remain neutral to politics and even Joe Biden would not think of replacing him with another general. His loyalty to the US government is taken for granted no matter which political party has the current president.

Foreign policy in the US is to 100% in the hands of the Foreign Department. If kenya was to be warned, then that would be the work of the Foreign Sectretary or his immediate surbodinates and not the armed forces.

In short, leave your Kenyan mentality in Kenya.
Title: Re: US summon KDF - and tell we are watching you
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on May 06, 2022, 12:33:33 PM
When you lose "system" there is a tendency to look for help and hope in all corners.  USA is too preoccupied with Ukraine at the moment to care about what kamwana is up to.
Title: Re: US summon KDF - and tell we are watching you
Post by: RV Pundit on May 06, 2022, 12:46:36 PM
US is global system. It has interest everywhere. Definitely kenya is most important in horn of Africa.  Moi was thinking of involving the army in 2002 and he was summoned few weeks to election to DC - and told to handover. Moi asked to be given 'jail free card' by Kibaki and Kibaki was ordered to do so. Previously they would default to Britain(UK) but now UK influence over kenya is completely over.

Any visit by Uhuru or military to DC now is not going to be friendly. They will be fed raw intelligence.

They know Uhuru has lost - they know possibilities of PEV is high - civil war - they do not want an Ethiopia - where visa bans and such small threats can fix the problem in kenya.Even Matiangi has gone quiet. I bet phone call from US ambassador is enough to scare him....

Ruto himself was in DC recently...met top US guys including pentagon.

The US run their intelligences on Nairobi, they do opinion polling, they play scenarios, and they do take these elections or transitions VERY VERY SERIOUSLY.

When you lose "system" there is a tendency to look for help and hope in all corners.  USA is too preoccupied with Ukraine at the moment to care about what kamwana is up to.
Title: Re: US summon KDF - and tell we are watching you
Post by: RV Pundit on May 06, 2022, 12:55:08 PM
Ruto few months ago.... NIS knows who will win...CIA knows who will win..and it's not Raila. It's William Ruto. They do serious polling - run scenarios- and it's obvious Ruto has one leg inside.

His diary will begin in Washington where he is scheduled to meet, among others, officials of the State Department and the Pentagon as well as the US National Security Council (NISC) Advisor.
Title: Re: US summon KDF - and tell we are watching you
Post by: RV Pundit on May 06, 2022, 01:14:21 PM
As for Raila and 2007 - the man screwed himself up when weeks to election he signed MOU with muslim to undo the anti-terrorism law :) that biggest screw up. US was actively assisting Kibaki to rig election. Before even kibaki was sworn - US already had BIG CONGRATULATION MESSAGE :) ready -and were first with Museveni who cannot stand Raila to send theirs. When bloodshed started - those became the only cards kibaki got - as rest of world watch in horror as mini-rwanda evolved. Poor US Rannebrger was in Kass fm pleading with warriors to go slow.
Title: Re: US summon KDF - and tell we are watching you
Post by: audacityofhope on May 06, 2022, 02:15:39 PM
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His diary will begin in Washington where he is scheduled to meet, among others, officials of the State Department and the Pentagon as well as the US National Security Council (NISC) Advisor.
:57: Don't forget to remind him that he needs to make appointments for that. This was embarrassing, nothing Itumbi did to cover it up worked:

FACT-CHECK: The Truth Behind Ruto’s White House Meeting (https://www.kenyans.co.ke/news/73612-fact-check-truth-behind-rutos-white-house-meeting)
Title: Re: US summon KDF - and tell we are watching you
Post by: Githunguri on May 08, 2022, 11:41:40 AM
I think he told Pentagon that even if they rig,No violence will happen because UDA knows one dead kikuyu in rift valley means one million lost kikuyu vote and voter apathy.

Secondly all other tribes out number kalenjin in the military unlike between 1991-2008 while there are very few kalenjin in Nairobi mombasa and kisumu to hold a successful protest.

The deal means its Raila because Washington hasn't issued any cautionary statement on the Kenyan political situation neither has Europe.

On voting day police will be inside the polling station while military will be outside.UDA agent akileta ujinga anapewa kichapo cha mbwa.