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Title: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 28, 2022, 11:08:13 PM
Seems potus has spoken. It is just a matter of getting the tools in place and do a phew phew on putin
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Putin is the problem. A malignant cunt..that doesn't deserve living
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 29, 2022, 03:37:36 AM
https://www.rt.com/news/552867-biden-putin-regime-change/


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Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 30, 2022, 08:27:43 AM

Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Fairandbalanced on March 30, 2022, 11:08:38 AM
What is it with Ruto supporters? It seems like they all support loser Putin who now looks like an idiot. He is being beaten by a ragtag of volunteers, imagine him taking on the mighty US military, he would be blown up to Stone Age within days. I said it here before, Putin, because of hubris made the biggest mistake of his life, he showed his cards, he will probably lose power and if not his clout in the world is horribly diminished. He went to war without even convincing Russians first, his military is demoralized and do not even believe in the mission.
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 30, 2022, 11:30:43 AM
What is it with Ruto supporters? It seems like they all support loser Putin who now looks like an idiot. He is being beaten by a ragtag of volunteers, imagine him taking on the mighty US military, he would be blown up to Stone Age within days. I said it here before, Putin, because of hubris made the biggest mistake of his life, he showed his cards, he will probably lose power and if not his clout in the world is horribly diminished. He went to war without even convincing Russians first, his military is demoralized and do not even believe in the mission.

Ruto supporters are like trumpets. They love tyrants. They suffer from napoleon complex. You will find quite a few of them believe in right-wing ideology and conspiracies. Having a kenya quote RT as reputable source of news is just puzzling. I bet you most of them grew up adoring moi.

Putin and his backwater country bit more than they can chew. He has a real problem on his hands. Even Russians now are start to see him a goof. You never want citizens to see you as a liability. He goofed big time l. From a powerful dictator now reduced to third world country despot. Can you imagine that turkey is the one holding talks for this because no western country would want to be seen talking to Russian. Putin was a thug that was brought in to save yelstin but ended up becoming the mobutu..of russina federation. All the oil money has been stolen and wasted buying luxury homes and yachts. He is very small minded small town thug and belongs in a tomb
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Fairandbalanced on March 30, 2022, 12:50:58 PM
You are right, most of them here declared Trump the winner even before the votes were counted, same thing they are doing with Ruto. They were so excited when Putin attacked Ukraine, its mind boggling. They love the corrupt, its a way to justify Rutos thieving and ascendancy, they admire that. For some of us who enjoy freedom and loathe corruption, we know that Kenya will never be truly free as long as it remains a lawless corrupt backwater.
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: patel on March 30, 2022, 01:12:38 PM
How does Russia thread becomes Ruto thread? ADD is real.
Njamba and trailer park king....you 2 need help.
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 30, 2022, 01:20:56 PM
You are right, most of them here declared Trump the winner even before the votes were counted, same thing they are doing with Ruto. They were so excited when Putin attacked Ukraine, its mind boggling. They love the corrupt, its a way to justify Rutos thieving and ascendancy, they admire that. For some of us who enjoy freedom and loathe corruption, we know that Kenya will never be truly free as long as it remains a lawless corrupt backwater.

Indeed. Nothing amazes me. The African is a master of mediocrity
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 30, 2022, 01:25:32 PM
How does Russia thread becomes Ruto thread? ADD is real.
Njamba and trailer park king....you 2 need help.
We are making comparisions and diving more into why some of our kenyan compatriots love facists. Are they closet fascists? The lovers of putin have affinity for right-wing politics. They love dictators and tryants. They are the new age tankies. Every disagreement with them must be resolved with a ritual of blood letting. Our resident savant says if his people do not like the way tribal census will be conducted they will fight. Their answer to defeat is violence. We know when Trumpers lost they drove to the capital and killed people there in a bloody clash. A failed coup that they still want to go back to.

Patel are you a right-wing fascist loving kenyan? Do you have,a fascist  flag in your closet? Should we alert antifa about your presence?
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on March 30, 2022, 01:45:34 PM
What is it with Ruto supporters? It seems like they all support loser Putin who now looks like an idiot. He is being beaten by a ragtag of volunteers, imagine him taking on the mighty US military, he would be blown up to Stone Age within days. I said it here before, Putin, because of hubris made the biggest mistake of his life, he showed his cards, he will probably lose power and if not his clout in the world is horribly diminished. He went to war without even convincing Russians first, his military is demoralized and do not even believe in the mission.

Njuri Ncheke is a Ruto supporter but I can tell he is not sold on Putin's "genius".
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 30, 2022, 02:24:04 PM
What is it with Ruto supporters? It seems like they all support loser Putin who now looks like an idiot. He is being beaten by a ragtag of volunteers, imagine him taking on the mighty US military, he would be blown up to Stone Age within days. I said it here before, Putin, because of hubris made the biggest mistake of his life, he showed his cards, he will probably lose power and if not his clout in the world is horribly diminished. He went to war without even convincing Russians first, his military is demoralized and do not even believe in the mission.

Njuri Ncheke is a Ruto supporter but I can tell he is not sold on Putin's "genius".
He is an ethnonationalist. In his day in Germany he was in love with those nazi emblems. He had German nazi emblem not really a nazi emblem. What is the ideology that nazis or Hitler party believed in? You can hear a lot ethnic nationalism in him. He likes ruto because he believes he will protect meru Lands from expansionist like kikuyus and Somalis.

He use to have that Reich emblem that has an eagle. His didn't have a swastika in it

https://images.app.goo.gl/DmHB77GZABcTCvvx9

He,had this eagle minus the legs. There was one that is used by nazis. I used to really get puzzled by why he would have such a symbol on his signature. After he went back to kenya he finally took it out.
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 30, 2022, 02:36:00 PM
Back to putin. He is a deadman walking
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Njuri Ncheke on March 30, 2022, 01:38:26 PM
What is it with Ruto supporters? It seems like they all support loser Putin who now looks like an idiot. He is being beaten by a ragtag of volunteers, imagine him taking on the mighty US military, he would be blown up to Stone Age within days. I said it here before, Putin, because of hubris made the biggest mistake of his life, he showed his cards, he will probably lose power and if not his clout in the world is horribly diminished. He went to war without even convincing Russians first, his military is demoralized and do not even believe in the mission.

Njuri Ncheke is a Ruto supporter but I can tell he is not sold on Putin's "genius".
He is an ethnonationalist. In his day in Germany he was in love with those nazi emblems. He had German nazi emblem not really a nazi emblem. What is the ideology that nazis or Hitler party believed in? You can hear a lot ethnic nationalism in him. He likes ruto because he believes he will protect meru Lands from expansionist like kikuyus and Somalis.

He use to have that Reich emblem that has an eagle. His didn't have a swastika in it

https://images.app.goo.gl/DmHB77GZABcTCvvx9

He,had this eagle minus the legs. There was one that is used by nazis. I used to really get puzzled by why he would have such a symbol on his signature. After he went back to kenya he finally took it out.
Pewa mbili on my behalf at this rate I will order a 3 gun salute for you.
I think my dislike for Russia was cultivated from an early age as a small kahii, similar to what we were told about Raila,then fate would seal it as I grew up events happening to me were kind of anti Russian associated.
As a kid I started by reading"Tintin in the land of the Soviet"  which literally was to cultivate small tuhiis  into being anti russian and anti communist with its"Soviets burning hay and clanging metal" to fool visitors that Soviet factories were producing at full capacity.
Then as as bigger Kihii I remember being approached by one of the senior Ihii and being asked what the cigarette sportsman stood for,I said I didn't know,the big Kihii then told me that it stands for "Stupid People Of Russia Take Stupid Meals At Night " wow I thought  now the Russians must be stupid and whoever supports them must be stupid too. :D
So as I grew older and my dick grew longer but my balls shrunk smaller,I found myself in Germany for university,well there sealed the little respect had for Russia,the guys I colleagues German friends were obviously anti Russian,so they used to tell me all those crazy stuff about stupid Russians some from east Germany were the most vile towards Russia. Some of them were neo Nazis so they spoke with natural hate, anyways mysteriously I got along with them I think they kind of got the message from me that I was no walkover,qhen they told me about their grandfather s in waffen ss and the Wehrmacht I told them about my grandfather in Mau Mau and how he had defeated the British whom the Germans had lost too,so they concluded it was best we get along,so we would spend idle time discussing war etc.
Anyways thats how  I came to be my views on Russia,but it has some Truth that Russians are stupid see what Putin has done,now its end of Russia.
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Georgesoros on March 30, 2022, 02:42:23 PM
What is it with Ruto supporters? It seems like they all support loser Putin who now looks like an idiot. He is being beaten by a ragtag of volunteers, imagine him taking on the mighty US military, he would be blown up to Stone Age within days. I said it here before, Putin, because of hubris made the biggest mistake of his life, he showed his cards, he will probably lose power and if not his clout in the world is horribly diminished. He went to war without even convincing Russians first, his military is demoralized and do not even believe in the mission.

They love love love dictators.
As for informing Russians, independent media has completely been wiped out. So whatever Putin says is the truth. Only a few in the Russian army knew they were going to war. They thought they were doing exercises.
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Georgesoros on March 30, 2022, 02:44:09 PM
What is it with Ruto supporters? It seems like they all support loser Putin who now looks like an idiot. He is being beaten by a ragtag of volunteers, imagine him taking on the mighty US military, he would be blown up to Stone Age within days. I said it here before, Putin, because of hubris made the biggest mistake of his life, he showed his cards, he will probably lose power and if not his clout in the world is horribly diminished. He went to war without even convincing Russians first, his military is demoralized and do not even believe in the mission.

They love love love dictators.
As for informing Russians, independent media has completely been wiped out. So whatever Putin says is the truth. Only a few in the Russian army knew they were going to war. They thought they were doing exercises.

Majority Russians dont know there's war. They are told its special operation.
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Kadudu on March 30, 2022, 03:28:48 PM
Where is Noway in this conversation?
To love Putin is to love dictatorship. I always ask the likes of Pundit and Noway if they would love to live in Russia or the US. The US has its big issues especially on racial matters, but one cannot compare it with the jail that the Putin has made out of the Russia of today. During Boris Jeltsin's time there was democracy in Russia and the media could report on anything. Today laws are made extra to stop any independent media coverage. Only state media like those days of Jomo and Moi with KBC. Who today in Kenya would like to go back there? Mind you a majority today in Kenya knows nothing like only state media.

As of regiemchange in Russia, that should be left to the Russians. They have proven to be tough people and if they have enough of Putin they will get rid of him. As for now he is like a wet cat.
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Dear Mami on March 30, 2022, 05:56:29 PM
Lol. Turn a whole thread into cheap gossip/pseudo-psychoanalysis where your arguments and sources can't hack it, fellas? This is so wimpy, guys, c'mon. :D

Termi is the only one here I see (on the other side) who provides info/sources showing he is at least aware of the other side to this geopolitical debates. The rest of you guys just resort to this style of insults when confronted with facts or arguments that don't match the chorus around you.

I've never seen Noway or Pundit or Mankind resort to insults in place of arguments in this Ukraine issue. (To be fair, I haven't seen Termi do it, either.) In fact, Noway provides tons of actual info and sources from the other side to this story, not just repeating the talking points from MSM. Guy is clearly intimately familiar with Eastern Europe and most likely has worked in some kind of foreign-relations type job. Mankind is also very well read on geopolitics, though I can't tell if it's more than a hobby for him.

All my years debating tell me this: No one confident he's well informed and knows what he's arguing for feels the need to do this, ever.
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 30, 2022, 06:11:48 PM
Common dear Mami, why are you taking things this serious. We are gossiping here trying to understand..why you are supporting putin and Xi. It gives a window into understanding our opponents. We are gathering Intel on the other side of divide. It would be dull place if we all agreed.
 It is all in jest
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Dear Mami on March 30, 2022, 06:19:11 PM
It would be dull place if we all agreed.

Lol. :D Ok, you guys are just having fun, sawa. Then don't let me stop you.

But you guys are wrong on the analysis on at least two points. It's not about supporting dictators but about opposing American imperialism. Y'all have it all wrong about the chief motivation. And also, about the sample  :D I'm not a Ruto supporter. I'm Baba (unless he does something stupid like put Gideon Moi on the ticket). I also don't think Robina is 100% on the Western side of the Ukraine story (at most she's on the fence, waiting to read deeper and not sold on the whole 'Western side good' thing) and we all know she's no Ruto supporter (at least in 2022 elections).
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 30, 2022, 06:28:52 PM
It would be dull place if we all agreed.

Lol. :D Ok, you guys are just having fun, sawa. Then don't let me stop you.

But you guys are wrong on the analysis on at least two points. It's not about supporting dictators but about opposing American imperialism. Y'all have it all wrong about the chief motivation. And also, about the sample  :D I'm not a Ruto supporter. I'm Baba (unless he does something stupid like put Gideon Moi on the ticket).

Is American imperialism a force of good or bad. I believe American emperialism when in the hands of liberals does more good than harm without it nazis would have ruled the world. The problems with it is when in the hands of new conservatives. Neocons it gets misused but liberalism do offer a check on it.  Putin's view of the world aligns with Neocons. He believes that the world belongs to macho men. The man with biggest stick gets to feast on others. It is this alignment of you and others that makes me draw a conclusion that you are for freedom only when it is convenient.

Personally I liberal to a point. I believe some times need tryannts especially if tyranny is aimed at restoring social l, political and economic order. After that tyranny become nothing but cruelty. I am for kagame to step in stop genenlcide restore the nation and then manage the process without being a blood letting monster.

Putin to me is cruel like Mugabe. If challenged he poisons the well so that no one can drink from it if he can't.
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 30, 2022, 06:31:34 PM
My ideal tryannt would be late Jerry Rawlings. Come in do thd work and leave once you are no longer useful and participate as citizen. A man to held no grudges. A man of principle was
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Dear Mami on March 30, 2022, 06:44:09 PM
Lol, Plato, there isn't a shred of evidence that Democrats/liberals are ANY less evil to non-Americans in their geopolitics. There isn't even evidence there's anything like Democrat-v-Republican foreign policy: it's all the same script and it doesn't matter which party is in power.

After all, a Republican started the fake "war on terror" that ignited the Middle-Eastern wars. Then a Democrat (pretending to be not just liberal but progressive!) expanded them from two to seven (!) while unleashing horrific drones with a 90%-civilia-deaths rate. The Democrat who hoped to take over from him (but lost to a fake populist) is herself s neocon cut out of the same cloth as the Republican neocon who started this nonsense in 2003 in the first place! After all that, the fake populist got in (to his credit started no new wars, becoming the first president to fail to do so in like twenty years! :D) but proceeded to throw away an anti-nuke deal negotiated by the fake progressive with Iran, started posturing against Venezuela, and completely destroyed cordial relations with China, without necessity, (so it's not like he gets a point on the foreign relations point just for not launching a new war, either!) Now we have a neolib back in power (to his credit, has stopped/diminished at least two wars) but has completely without necessity also caused the worst war in Europe since the Balkan 90s horror.

The only difference I see between neocon and neolib foreign policy (where those two roughly represent R/D) is that neolibs have it in for Russia whereas neocons have it in for China. Both are stupid and sociopathic and risk destroying the planet one way or another. The end. :D
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: gout on March 30, 2022, 07:00:32 PM
Why should nyeuthi have any beef with Russians? No trace of nyeuthi slavery? Never colonized nyeuthi?
Offered a countercheck when US was starting to run wild bringing all sort of wars in Africa in guise of fighting communism.
Just guys chilling with their whiskey in the cold.

What such senseless war does is to open world on the hypocrisy of the West. Now all you hear is that Libya, Iraq, Iran and all, was A LONG TIME AGO. That the Ukrainian invasion is happening in the social media age and unlike in Gaza where Israel/US has a choke on the cyberspace.

Nazi Germans are also not liking the neo nazi talk, though the gas stick is up their heart.

Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 30, 2022, 07:01:43 PM
Hold up. The war on terrorism was real. America was attached it was second most successful terrorist attack. Pearl harbor was the first. We all in America wanted retribution a message to be sent that no one can step on tiger's tail and get away with. NEOCONS used this opportunity to go settle scores with saddam..we protested and it never worked but later on it focused the war on terror on taalibans. So war on terror was not a mistake but an effort to protect our democracy from terrorism. It has worked there hasn't been attack on usa soil by foreign terrorists on a large scale since then
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 30, 2022, 07:03:31 PM
Why should nyeuthi have any beef with Russians? No trace of nyeuthi slavery? Never colonized nyeuthi?
Offered a countercheck when US was starting to run wild bringing all sort of wars in Africa in guise of fighting communism.
Just guys chilling with their whiskey in the cold.

What such senseless war does is to open world on the hypocrisy of the West. Now all you hear is that Libya, Iraq, Iran and all, was A LONG TIME AGO. That the Ukrainian invasion is happening in the social media age and unlike in Gaza where Israel/US has a choke on the cyberspace.

Nazi Germans are also not liking the neo nazi talk, though the gas stick is up their heart.
I have no beef with Russia. I have beef with Russian govt trying to occupy Ukraine. I see it as crime against Ukraine.
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 30, 2022, 07:05:33 PM
You are accusing Biden for war in Ukraine. How did he start this Ukraine war? I am all ears
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Georgesoros on March 30, 2022, 07:08:40 PM
Common dear Mami, why are you taking things this serious. We are gossiping here trying to understand..why you are supporting putin and Xi. It gives a window into understanding our opponents. We are gathering Intel on the other side of divide. It would be dull place if we all agreed.
 It is all in jest

You can never, ever change anyone how they think and make decisions. Instead use it to enlighten your own knowledge.
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Dear Mami on March 30, 2022, 07:13:50 PM
You are accusing Biden for war in Ukraine. How did he start this Ukraine war? I am all ears

I am 100% accusing Biden. Yes! Ati all ears? Where have you been as this has been discussed and debated ad nauseum here? You can't be serious.

An he's not alone, of course, you have to start with Bush starting their whole Ukraine/Georgia-joining NATO plans,  then follow with Obama's 2014 coup, long before you get to Biden. However, none of them pushed their puppets to the point Biden's admin pushed Zelensky.

You can go back and read the bagillion debates we've already had on this. I'm not repeating it all here when I know you're just trolling. :D
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 30, 2022, 07:21:39 PM
So putin is their headmaster. They can't align with any other nation without his consent. You see, I am a simple villager. I hate complicating life. Why would Georgia and Ukraine seek approval from putin to join nato or eu? It means putin could one day call Burundi and tell the to quit eac or he bombs them. Or kenya could tell somali not to align with yemen

Isn't that the same imperialism you are accusing usa for? An emperor in his bed deciding for other nations. Denying them liberty and life if they defy him
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Dear Mami on March 30, 2022, 07:35:45 PM
I'm also a simple gal.  :D So rather than repeating myself ad infinitum, I'll let this expert speaking in simple language repeat the same common-sensical points I been making all along:


And no, it's not mere imperialism on Russia's part: they're literally acting to avoid being torn up by NATO when they can no longer respond. It's NATO that is purely acting on behalf of (American) imperialism here.

Russia and Ukraine are acting to preserve survival (Ukraine in a stupid way), not merely to either concentrate more power or to protect excess power already consolidated (by dicing up a weaker country posing no threat to you just because it's not a wimp) ala the US via NATO. Russia is engaged in a war because if it waits, it'll be in no position to defend itself later. In other words, btw fighting Ukraine now and the US later, they're picking Ukraine now.

Big difference with what NATO is doing. This war would not happen if America wasn't, as usual, murking about in that part of the World. So you guys are the ones supporting the bully that has created this mess in the first place, entirely without necessity (as usual).
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on March 30, 2022, 08:11:57 PM
Lol, Plato, there isn't a shred of evidence that Democrats/liberals are ANY less evil to non-Americans in their geopolitics. There isn't even evidence there's anything like Democrat-v-Republican foreign policy: it's all the same script and it doesn't matter which party is in power.

After all, a Republican started the fake "war on terror" that ignited the Middle-Eastern wars. Then a Democrat (pretending to be not just liberal but progressive!) expanded them from two to seven (!) while unleashing horrific drones with a 90%-civilia-deaths rate. The Democrat who hoped to take over from him (but lost to a fake populist) is herself s neocon cut out of the same cloth as the Republican neocon who started this nonsense in 2003 in the first place! After all that, the fake populist got in (to his credit started no new wars, becoming the first president to fail to do so in like twenty years! :D ) but proceeded to throw away an anti-nuke deal negotiated by the fake progressive with Iran, started posturing against Venezuela, and completely destroyed cordial relations with China, without necessity, (so it's not like he gets a point on the foreign relations point just for not launching a new war, either!) Now we have a neolib back in power (to his credit, has stopped/diminished at least two wars) but has completely without necessity also caused the worst war in Europe since the Balkan 90s horror.

The only difference I see between neocon and neolib foreign policy (where those two roughly represent R/D) is that neolibs have it in for Russia whereas neocons have it in for China. Both are stupid and sociopathic and risk destroying the planet one way or another. The end. :D

Since 9-11, there has been some convergence.  Neocons took advantage and basically ran a national security state.  It became political suicide to question US foreign policy.  But traditionally, liberals tended to be more amenable to finding fault with US foreign policy.  The anti-Vietnam war movements of the 70s were all liberal.

Presently, it appears like the tables have been turned, because American "conservatives" have morphed into fascists.  Their enemy is now within; they have embraced corruption at levels I previously only thought possible in Africa.  Democrats now seem relatively hawkish on foreign policy because someone has to pick the slack.

That said, once the fascists subdue the "enemy within", they will find a new bogeyman(that's their universe), and the world would be worse off for it.
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 30, 2022, 08:13:47 PM
This John mearsheirmer is the new Karl Marx. Everyone is quoting him
 I saw his video last year on my algorithm. He was too dry in his representation I couldn't get thru his professor like talk. Like I told my buddy who was surprised I was dismissing him I told him somethings are common sense they do not need an explanation that needs a PhD thesis ..this man is really drowning  the fish with his cold era lecture style .

My questions are simple. Why does putin fear his neighbors going to nato or joining Eu..? Gorbachev lost power trying to keep usssr together. However the democrats in the ussr wanted out and outmatched him. The assumption is that Russian citizens want to be behind the curtain with emperor putin as the curtain operator. Far from the true. They want liberty and right to live as they wish. What is scaring putin to think that his citizens may not want to continue being under his protection?
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on March 30, 2022, 08:19:12 PM
Why should nyeuthi have any beef with Russians? No trace of nyeuthi slavery? Never colonized nyeuthi?
Offered a countercheck when US was starting to run wild bringing all sort of wars in Africa in guise of fighting communism.
Just guys chilling with their whiskey in the cold.

What such senseless war does is to open world on the hypocrisy of the West. Now all you hear is that Libya, Iraq, Iran and all, was A LONG TIME AGO. That the Ukrainian invasion is happening in the social media age and unlike in Gaza where Israel/US has a choke on the cyberspace.

Nazi Germans are also not liking the neo nazi talk, though the gas stick is up their heart.



There is nothing wrong with Russia.  Except the usual lack of institutional restraints that make it hard for tyrants to emerge.  Their invasion in Ukraine risks upending the established order about respect for the sovereignty of countries.  Even the US at the height of its attacks on Iraq and Afghanistan, never once entertained the idea that their sovereignty as separate nations was negotiable.
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 30, 2022, 08:20:44 PM
Why should nyeuthi have any beef with Russians? No trace of nyeuthi slavery? Never colonized nyeuthi?
Offered a countercheck when US was starting to run wild bringing all sort of wars in Africa in guise of fighting communism.
Just guys chilling with their whiskey in the cold.

What such senseless war does is to open world on the hypocrisy of the West. Now all you hear is that Libya, Iraq, Iran and all, was A LONG TIME AGO. That the Ukrainian invasion is happening in the social media age and unlike in Gaza where Israel/US has a choke on the cyberspace.

Nazi Germans are also not liking the neo nazi talk, though the gas stick is up their heart.



There is nothing wrong with Russia.  Except the usual lack of institutional restraints that make it hard for tyrants to emerge.  Their invasion in Ukraine risks upending the established order about respect for the sovereignty of countries.  Even the US at the height of its attacks on Iraq and Afghanistan, never once entertained the idea that their sovereignty as separate nations was negotiable.
Correct usa even with preemptive strikes didn't dream of annexing nations and occupying them permanently
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: GeeMail on March 30, 2022, 08:59:10 PM
Hold up. The war on terrorism was real. America was attached it was second most successful terrorist attack. Pearl harbor was the first. We all in America wanted retribution a message to be sent that no one can step on tiger's tail and get away with. NEOCONS used this opportunity to go settle scores with saddam..we protested and it never worked but later on it focused the war on terror on taalibans. So war on terror was not a mistake but an effort to protect our democracy from terrorism. It has worked there hasn't been attack on usa soil by foreign terrorists on a large scale since then

Pearl harbor
9/11
WTC7
Weapons of Mass something
Sudan Chemical Labs
Libya Mess
Kosovo
Covid-Wuhan virus
all smell a big rat.
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Georgesoros on March 30, 2022, 09:07:58 PM
Why should nyeuthi have any beef with Russians? No trace of nyeuthi slavery? Never colonized nyeuthi?
Offered a countercheck when US was starting to run wild bringing all sort of wars in Africa in guise of fighting communism.
Just guys chilling with their whiskey in the cold.

What such senseless war does is to open world on the hypocrisy of the West. Now all you hear is that Libya, Iraq, Iran and all, was A LONG TIME AGO. That the Ukrainian invasion is happening in the social media age and unlike in Gaza where Israel/US has a choke on the cyberspace.

Nazi Germans are also not liking the neo nazi talk, though the gas stick is up their heart.



There is nothing wrong with Russia.  Except the usual lack of institutional restraints that make it hard for tyrants to emerge.  Their invasion in Ukraine risks upending the established order about respect for the sovereignty of countries.  Even the US at the height of its attacks on Iraq and Afghanistan, never once entertained the idea that their sovereignty as separate nations was negotiable.

You made it extremely complicated for most of Ruto supporters in here to understand.
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: GeeMail on March 30, 2022, 09:14:55 PM
Russian foreign minister Lavrov has just announced they are happy with Istanbul negotiations. Means end of war? Too early to tell. Maybe fear of regime change threat by Biden.
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Georgesoros on March 30, 2022, 09:41:28 PM
Russian foreign minister Lavrov has just announced they are happy with Istanbul negotiations. Means end of war? Too early to tell. Maybe fear of regime change threat by Biden.

link
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: GeeMail on March 30, 2022, 10:08:15 PM
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-03-30/Lavrov-Russia-satisfied-with-Istanbul-negotiations-18PwF4z7nwI/index.html
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: KenyanPlato on March 30, 2022, 11:15:29 PM
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-03-30/Lavrov-Russia-satisfied-with-Istanbul-negotiations-18PwF4z7nwI/index.html
That china talking. Russia still wants to keep the areas it has captured. Ukraine has told it to go f itself
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on March 31, 2022, 03:07:48 AM
Russian foreign minister Lavrov has just announced they are happy with Istanbul negotiations. Means end of war? Too early to tell. Maybe fear of regime change threat by Biden.

link

They operate on bad faith in spades.  The talks are little more than a different phase of the disinformation war for the Russians.  Buy time, tell lies and what have you....maskirovka.
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: gout on March 31, 2022, 05:19:57 PM
The proof of the pudding is in the eating. If Russia is inconsequential why the global inflation?

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US planning to tap oil reserve to control gas prices
US President Joe Biden is preparing to order the release of up to 1 million barrels of oil per day from the nations strategic petroleum reserve, according to AP.

Citing two people familiar with the decision, the agency said the move is part of a bid to control energy prices that have spiked as the US and allies have imposed steep sanctions on Russia.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/30/russia-ukraine-putin-being-misled-by-advisers-us-says-liveblog
Title: Re: Regime change in Russia is next card on the table
Post by: Nowayhaha on March 31, 2022, 08:03:15 PM
https://www.rt.com/russia/553061-ukraine-defense-industry-russia/


If you think that we do not suffer losses, then you are deeply mistaken. They have practically destroyed our military industry and in many ways are finishing it off. And in many ways they are finishing off the civilian one, deliberately destroying it, he explained.

READ MORE: Ukraine ready to fulfill key Russian demands Moscow

He claimed that Russias goal is to reduce Ukraine to a state when no one would be interested in it, like a destroyed territory.

This is exactly what they are doing and will keep doing, he stressed.

Russia insists that it has not targeted the civilian objects and accuses Ukrainian nationalists of using civilians as a human shield.