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Kenyan race was over when BBI was stopped by the courts
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Raila has no path to presidency. Let him come out at tell Kenyans how he can win without Central, Rift valley, Western, eastern, Nairobi 50- 50, and coast 40 - 60. Betrayal of 2017 will humble baba wa kambo. UDA should start referring to him as baba wakambo.
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He is expired goods;
Raila has no path to presidency. Let him come out at tell Kenyans how he can win without Central, Rift valley, Western, eastern, Nairobi 50- 50, and coast 40 - 60. Betrayal of 2017 will humble baba wa kambo. UDA should start referring to him as baba wakambo.
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Endelea kula ujeuri wenu. Aug 9 now only 150 days away.
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List the think tanks on Ruto's side
Mudavadi
Weta
Ndii
Ndindi Nyoro
Sudi
...
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Right but the non-political key actors
Dr David Ndii - Economics assisted by Augistine Cheruiyot - crafting the manifesto
Eliud Awalo - Management Consultany - asisted by Veronicah Maina - managing party affairs
Davis Chirchir - assisted by John Barorot- ICT & Strategy - all things IEBC and related tech.
Dr Korir Singoei - Legal - assisted by Kigen & Nelson Havi.
Key financiers & fund raisers - David Langat, Joshua Chepkwony and Joshua Kulei.
List the think tanks on Ruto's side
Mudavadi
Weta
Ndii
Ndindi Nyoro
Sudi
...
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Right but the non-political key actors
Dr David Ndii - Economics assisted by Augistine Cheruiyot - crafting the manifesto
Eliud Awalo - Management Consultany - asisted by Veronicah Maina - managing party affairs
Davis Chirchir - assisted by John Barorot- ICT & Strategy - all things IEBC and related tech.
Dr Korir Singoei - Legal - assisted by Kigen & Nelson Havi.
Key financiers & fund raisers - David Langat, Joshua Chepkwony and Joshua Kulei.
List the think tanks on Ruto's side
Mudavadi
Weta
Ndii
Ndindi Nyoro
Sudi
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6 people, 70% from one tribe/region,
dreaming they will get 70% of the vote of 42 tribes ....
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42 tribes youve been singing since 2007, How many tribes are Gema,Kalenjin,Luhya ,Mijikenda?
Right but the non-political key actors
Dr David Ndii - Economics assisted by Augistine Cheruiyot - crafting the manifesto
Eliud Awalo - Management Consultany - asisted by Veronicah Maina - managing party affairs
Davis Chirchir - assisted by John Barorot- ICT & Strategy - all things IEBC and related tech.
Dr Korir Singoei - Legal - assisted by Kigen & Nelson Havi.
Key financiers & fund raisers - David Langat, Joshua Chepkwony and Joshua Kulei.
List the think tanks on Ruto's side
Mudavadi
Weta
Ndii
Ndindi Nyoro
Sudi
...
6 people, 70% from one tribe/region,
dreaming they will get 70% of the vote of 42 tribes ....
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These Ruto personal campaigners, friends and advisors. The guys working for him in ministry represent face of kenya.
6 people, 70% from one tribe/region,
dreaming they will get 70% of the vote of 42 tribes ....
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42 tribes youve been singing since 2007, How many tribes are Gema,Kalenjin,Luhya ,Mijikenda?
Right but the non-political key actors
Dr David Ndii - Economics assisted by Augistine Cheruiyot - crafting the manifesto
Eliud Awalo - Management Consultany - asisted by Veronicah Maina - managing party affairs
Davis Chirchir - assisted by John Barorot- ICT & Strategy - all things IEBC and related tech.
Dr Korir Singoei - Legal - assisted by Kigen & Nelson Havi.
Key financiers & fund raisers - David Langat, Joshua Chepkwony and Joshua Kulei.
List the think tanks on Ruto's side
Mudavadi
Weta
Ndii
Ndindi Nyoro
Sudi
...
6 people, 70% from one tribe/region,
dreaming they will get 70% of the vote of 42 tribes ....
Don't ask stupid questions. I have ignored you all my life and so have others on this forum frequently leaving you engaged in monologues on whole threads. Some have even called you a small mind, low IQ yet you continue to post your gibberish oblivious that hardly anyone reads nor responds. You more than anyone else on this forum seriously needs the services of a shrink.
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Like you think we have short memories.
Kalonzo to Ruto: You gave all top jobs to Kalenjins (https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-01-14-kalonzo-to-ruto-you-gave-all-top-jobs-to-kalenjins/)
Kalonzo has read the fellow so well, I am surprised you harbor some hope that he may one day join UDA. All dreams are valid, but not this one.
These Ruto personal campaigners, friends and advisors. The guys working for him in ministry represent face of kenya.
6 people, 70% from one tribe/region,
dreaming they will get 70% of the vote of 42 tribes ....
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I careless. There is a reason My nick is nowayhaha. I just expose the stupidity in people posts . Now to debunk your 42 tribes myth
GEMA has 6 Tribes, Kalenjin 10 tribes, Mijikenda 9 tribes thats almost 25 out of 42 Now add the luhya. You get the gist of the whole story .Why is it that only ODMers like throwing the 42 tribes story.
42 tribes youve been singing since 2007, How many tribes are Gema,Kalenjin,Luhya ,Mijikenda?
Right but the non-political key actors
Dr David Ndii - Economics assisted by Augistine Cheruiyot - crafting the manifesto
Eliud Awalo - Management Consultany - asisted by Veronicah Maina - managing party affairs
Davis Chirchir - assisted by John Barorot- ICT & Strategy - all things IEBC and related tech.
Dr Korir Singoei - Legal - assisted by Kigen & Nelson Havi.
Key financiers & fund raisers - David Langat, Joshua Chepkwony and Joshua Kulei.
List the think tanks on Ruto's side
Mudavadi
Weta
Ndii
Ndindi Nyoro
Sudi
...
6 people, 70% from one tribe/region,
dreaming they will get 70% of the vote of 42 tribes ....
Don't ask stupid questions. I have ignored you all my life and so have others on this forum frequently leaving you engaged in monologues on whole threads. Some have even called you a small mind, low IQ yet you continue to post your gibberish oblivious that hardly anyone reads nor responds. You more than anyone else on this forum seriously needs the services of a shrink.
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Such pure nonsense cannot fly; and are not worthy of a responses; that is why Ruto is already PORK in waiting.
Like you think we have short memories.
Kalonzo to Ruto: You gave all top jobs to Kalenjins (https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-01-14-kalonzo-to-ruto-you-gave-all-top-jobs-to-kalenjins/)
Kalonzo has read the fellow so well, I am surprised you harbor some hope that he may one day join UDA. All dreams are valid, but not this one.
These Ruto personal campaigners, friends and advisors. The guys working for him in ministry represent face of kenya.
6 people, 70% from one tribe/region,
dreaming they will get 70% of the vote of 42 tribes ....
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Precisely - Luhya is almost 17. 41 vesrus 1 was effective propaganda.
I careless. There is a reason My nick is nowayhaha. I just expose the stupidity in people posts . Now to debunk your 42 tribes myth
GEMA has 6 Tribes, Kalenjin 10 tribes, Mijikenda 9 tribes thats almost 25 out of 42 Now add the luhya. You get the gist of the whole story .Why is it that only ODMers like throwing the 42 tribes story.
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You described him well the other day.
Such pure nonsense cannot fly; and are not worthy of a responses; that is why Ruto is already PORK in waiting.
Like you think we have short memories.
Kalonzo to Ruto: You gave all top jobs to Kalenjins (https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2021-01-14-kalonzo-to-ruto-you-gave-all-top-jobs-to-kalenjins/)
Kalonzo has read the fellow so well, I am surprised you harbor some hope that he may one day join UDA. All dreams are valid, but not this one.
These Ruto personal campaigners, friends and advisors. The guys working for him in ministry represent face of kenya.
6 people, 70% from one tribe/region,
dreaming they will get 70% of the vote of 42 tribes ....
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You have to be totally unschooled to think that recognition of tribes in Kenya is a matter of guesswork. Hello, that is stupid. Official Kenya Tribes are a constitutional matter that must be Gazetted.
It is exhausting stating the obvious here sometimes to a rather high number of low IQ found in one place.
IN THE MATTER OF THE PETITIONS BY THE ASIAN COMMUNITY FOR FORMAL RECOGNITION AS A TRIBE IN KENYA (http://kenyalaw.org/kenya_gazette/gazette/notice/183719/)
Precisely - Luhya is almost 17. 41 vesrus 1 was effective propaganda.
I careless. There is a reason My nick is nowayhaha. I just expose the stupidity in people posts . Now to debunk your 42 tribes myth
GEMA has 6 Tribes, Kalenjin 10 tribes, Mijikenda 9 tribes thats almost 25 out of 42 Now add the luhya. You get the gist of the whole story .Why is it that only ODMers like throwing the 42 tribes story.
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Toilet.com missing it's one of it dung flies.
You have to be totally unschooled to think that recognition of tribes in Kenya is a matter of guesswork. Hello, that is stupid. Official Kenya Tribes are a constitutional matter that must be Gazetted.
It is exhausting stating the obvious here sometimes to a rather high number of low IQ found in one place.
IN THE MATTER OF THE PETITIONS BY THE ASIAN COMMUNITY FOR FORMAL RECOGNITION AS A TRIBE IN KENYA (http://kenyalaw.org/kenya_gazette/gazette/notice/183719/)
Precisely - Luhya is almost 17. 41 vesrus 1 was effective propaganda.
I careless. There is a reason My nick is nowayhaha. I just expose the stupidity in people posts . Now to debunk your 42 tribes myth
GEMA has 6 Tribes, Kalenjin 10 tribes, Mijikenda 9 tribes thats almost 25 out of 42 Now add the luhya. You get the gist of the whole story .Why is it that only ODMers like throwing the 42 tribes story.
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Pundit never has a comeback when I answer him. Matusi yu. Over here also was no different, no comeback :sign0081:
https://nipate.net/index.php?topic=11751.msg106806#msg106806
Sagana 3.
Uhuru Tosha remarks.
Who told you ODM will provide presidential candidate?
What if the bigger coalition - Jubilee backed by 10 parties
OKA - backed by 5 parties.
Decide that Kalonzo should run the ticket.
or even decide that Ruto has "reformed" and back him :)
Please hold it until Chebukati receives formal nomination papers.
Mambo bado.
Somethings still dont make sense - to me - and with my long political knowledge - I'd be very afraid if I was Raila.
Dont be like maDVD who feed Uhuru and Ruto with Mandazi - was handed power for two weeks - then found himself offside.
If small parties are saying they dont trust Raila....and would rather sign with dead Jubilee.
You think Uhuru, kalonzo and Gideon will trust Raila with PORK.
Sometimes you're the user - sometimes you're being used.
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You need to pass basic level of sound argumentation to warrant a response.
For example of 44 or 45 tribes - Luhya is counted and so are the almost 17 subtribes; Kalenjin 11 substribes; combined Kalenj+Luhya is almost 20 tribes. Mijikenda 9 tribes. We are at 30 tribes. The rest are the 14 - Luo, Abasuba, Somali, Kikuyu, Meru, Embu, Mbeere, Kamba...get the drift moron.
Of the 44 kenya tribes - 30 are sub tribes of Luhya, Kalenjin and Mijikenda. I personally choose my tribe as Kipsigis but can pick Kalenjin sometimes. You also pick Bukusu as tribe and Luhya sometimes.
Pundit usually has no comeback when I answer him. Over here also was no different :sign0081:
https://nipate.net/index.php?topic=11751.msg106806#msg106806
Sagana 3.
Uhuru Tosha remarks.
Who told you ODM will provide presidential candidate?
What if the bigger coalition - Jubilee backed by 10 parties
OKA - backed by 5 parties.
Decide that Kalonzo should run the ticket.
or even decide that Ruto has "reformed" and back him :)
Please hold it until Chebukati receives formal nomination papers.
Mambo bado.
Somethings still dont make sense - to me - and with my long political knowledge - I'd be very afraid if I was Raila.
Dont be like maDVD who feed Uhuru and Ruto with Mandazi - was handed power for two weeks - then found himself offside.
If small parties are saying they dont trust Raila....and would rather sign with dead Jubilee.
You think Uhuru, kalonzo and Gideon will trust Raila with PORK.
Sometimes you're the user - sometimes you're being used.
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:D :D
Kweli Audacity of hope ni dawa ya Punda.
He beats him blue and black with facts and erudite analysis, mpaka ashindwa kujibu.
Continue doing the lord's work my broda.
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lol
:D :D
Kweli Audacity of hope ni dawa ya Punda.
He beats him blue and black with facts and erudite analysis, mpaka ashindwa kujibu.
Continue doing the lord's work my broda.
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Why do you even bother to answer him ?
You need to pass basic level of sound argumentation to warrant a response.
For example of 44 or 45 tribes - Luhya is counted and so are the almost 17 subtribes; Kalenjin 11 substribes; combined Kalenj+Luhya is almost 20 tribes. Mijikenda 9 tribes. We are at 30 tribes. The rest are the 14 - Luo, Abasuba, Somali, Kikuyu, Meru, Embu, Mbeere, Kamba...get the drift moron.
Of the 44 kenya tribes - 30 are sub tribes of Luhya, Kalenjin and Mijikenda. I personally choose my tribe as Kipsigis but can pick Kalenjin sometimes. You also pick Bukusu as tribe and Luhya sometimes.
Pundit usually has no comeback when I answer him. Over here also was no different :sign0081:
https://nipate.net/index.php?topic=11751.msg106806#msg106806
Sagana 3.
Uhuru Tosha remarks.
Who told you ODM will provide presidential candidate?
What if the bigger coalition - Jubilee backed by 10 parties
OKA - backed by 5 parties.
Decide that Kalonzo should run the ticket.
or even decide that Ruto has "reformed" and back him :)
Please hold it until Chebukati receives formal nomination papers.
Mambo bado.
Somethings still dont make sense - to me - and with my long political knowledge - I'd be very afraid if I was Raila.
Dont be like maDVD who feed Uhuru and Ruto with Mandazi - was handed power for two weeks - then found himself offside.
If small parties are saying they dont trust Raila....and would rather sign with dead Jubilee.
You think Uhuru, kalonzo and Gideon will trust Raila with PORK.
Sometimes you're the user - sometimes you're being used.
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You need to pass basic level of sound argumentation to warrant a response.
For example of 44 or 45 tribes - Luhya is counted and so are the almost 17 subtribes; Kalenjin 11 substribes; combined Kalenj+Luhya is almost 20 tribes. Mijikenda 9 tribes. We are at 30 tribes. The rest are the 14 - Luo, Abasuba, Somali, Kikuyu, Meru, Embu, Mbeere, Kamba...get the drift moron.
Of the 44 kenya tribes - 30 are sub tribes of Luhya, Kalenjin and Mijikenda. I personally choose my tribe as Kipsigis but can pick Kalenjin sometimes. You also pick Bukusu as tribe and Luhya sometimes.
Pundit usually has no comeback when I answer him. Over here also was no different :sign0081:
https://nipate.net/index.php?topic=11751.msg106806#msg106806
Sagana 3.
Uhuru Tosha remarks.
Who told you ODM will provide presidential candidate?
What if the bigger coalition - Jubilee backed by 10 parties
OKA - backed by 5 parties.
Decide that Kalonzo should run the ticket.
or even decide that Ruto has "reformed" and back him :)
Please hold it until Chebukati receives formal nomination papers.
Mambo bado.
Somethings still dont make sense - to me - and with my long political knowledge - I'd be very afraid if I was Raila.
Dont be like maDVD who feed Uhuru and Ruto with Mandazi - was handed power for two weeks - then found himself offside.
If small parties are saying they dont trust Raila....and would rather sign with dead Jubilee.
You think Uhuru, kalonzo and Gideon will trust Raila with PORK.
Sometimes you're the user - sometimes you're being used.
Hakuna drift hapo. If you are going to adopt a nonsensical line about sub-tribes purporting them to be official tribes then HELLO, I will pass you the 2009 census list EACH WITH A CODE where one was asked to choose where they belonged. That list had 114 codes meaning 114 ethnic groupings (not 44). When Uhuru signed up Makonde as the 43rd tribe in 2017 and then followed with Gazetting the Indian as 44th, I believe that period was still Jubilee 1.0 and therefore YOU STILL SUPPORTED HIM, so you have no reason to claim that at that point he was not of sound mind signing documents he didn't understand or with no historical basis!
For example of 44 or 45 tribes - Luhya is counted and so are the almost 17 subtribes; Kalenjin 11 substribes; combined Kalenj+Luhya is almost 20 tribes. Mijikenda 9 tribes. We are at 30 tribes. The rest are the 14 - Luo, Abasuba, Somali, Kikuyu, Meru, Embu, Mbeere, Kamba...get the drift moron.
Bullcrap! 42 tribes is derived from the 1969 census and was kept that way by successive politicians for convenience. Uhuru added the Makonde and Indians in 2017. The official 1962 census tribes are listed below.
Ethnic groupings in Kenya were a colonial creation (Thanks Amb Kimani for reminding the world of the same) made in their "wisdom" of grouping by what they perceived as ethnic homogeneity. Post independence politicians decided to leave that enumeration methodology intact to ride on political numbers (in 2013 some fake Jubilee professor introduced the term 'tyranny of numbers'). If you look at the listing below, Kikuyu is one tribe, Luhya is one tribe and Mijikenda one tribe!. You can choose to be daft if that does not make sense to you.
We often talk of the 'big 5'. The 1962 census and 1969 had the Kikuyu, Luhya, Luo, Kamba and Kisii as the big five.
Moi fiddled in 1979 census to impose the Kalenjin as a tribe and displace the Kisii from that coveted spot of big five. However many people forget that the colonial government already recognized many distinct cultures as tribes even though they had fewer than populations of 100,000 persons and that is how we arrive at 42. YOU DO NOT GET TO 42 by haphazardly dismembering tribes to sub-tribes. 36 tribes were recognized in the 1962 census while 42 were recognized in the 1969 census. So can we please desist from making our own numbers (like unschooled people) when already what is official a tribe is already DOCUMENTED in government records?
Tribe and Population in 1962 Census
Kikuyus- 1,642,065
Luo - 1,148,355
Luhya - 1,086,409
Kamba - 933,219
Kisii - 538,343
Meru - 439,921
Mijikenda - 414,887
Kipsigis - 341,771
Nandi - 170,085
Maasai - 154,079
Tugen - 109,691
Elgeyo - 100,871
Embu - 95,647
Taita - 83,613
Pokot - 76,537
Teso - 72,357
Marakwet - 66,965
Kuria - 41,885
Tharaka - 38,474
Mbere - 38,172
Sabaot - 28,012
Nderobo - 14,378
Bajun - 11,280
Swahili/Shirazi - 8,657
Taveta - 4,855
Boni/Sanye - 4,797
Njemps - 4,681
Somali - 275,241
Turkana - 181,387
Boran - 58,346
Samburu - 48,750
Pokomo - 30,350
Rendile - 13,724
Orman - 11,646
Gabbra - 11,478
Sakuye - 1,681
Not stated - 15,481
TOTAL - 8,318,070
https://www.erdkunde.uni-bonn.de/archive/2000/the-ethnic-geography-of-kenya-on-the-eve-of-independence-the-1962-census/at_download/attachment
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I promised this other list. It is an official list showing not your 44 but 114 groupings (ONLY 42 are official tribes):
Together with the list of Tribe codes used in the Kenya 2009 census {source: KNBS}:
P.S. Tanzania data is intact, no ethnic demographic posturing by rogue political class ... Pap! - arrive at 120 tribes.
ENTHIC GROUP/NATIONALITY CODE
1. BASUBA 110
2. EMBU 120
3. KAMBA 130
4. KIKUYU 140
5. KISII 150
6. KURIA 160
7. LUO 170
8. MALAKOTE 180
9. MASAI 190
10. MBEERE 200
11. MERU 210
12. NUBI 220
13. POKOT 230
14. SAMBURU 240
15. TAITA 250
16. TAVETA 260
17. TESO 270
18. THARAKA 280
19. TURKANA 290
20. LUHYA 300 (Tribe Group)
21. BAKHAYO 301
22. BANYALA 302
23. BANYORE 303
24. BATSOTSO 304
25. BUKUSU 305
26. IDAKHO 306
27. ISUKHA 307
28. KABRAS 308
29. KISA 309
30. MARACHI 310
31. MARAGOLI 311
32. MARAMA 312
33. SAMIA 313
34. TACHONI 314
35. TIRIKI 315
36. TURA 316
37. WANGA 317
38. MIJIKENDA 400 (Tribe Group)
39. BONI 401
40. CHONYI 402
41. DAHALO 403
42. DIGO 404
43. DURUMA 405
44. GIRIAMA 406
45. JIBANA 407
46. KAMBE 408
47. KAUMA 409
48. POKOMO 410
49. RABAI 411
50. RIBE 412
51. WAATA 413
52. SWAHILI 500 (Tribe Group)
53. AMU 501
54. BAJUNI 502
55. CHITUNDI 503
56. JOMVU 504
57. MUYEYAYA 505
58. MVITA 506
59. NGARE 507
60. PATE 508
61. SIU 509
62. VUMBA 510
63. WACHANGAMWE 511
64. WAFAZA 512
65. WAKATWA 513
66. WAKILIFI 514
67. WAKILINDINI 515
68. WAMTWAPA 516
69. WASHAKA 517
70. WATANGANA 518
71. WATIKUU 519
72. KALENJIN 600 (Tribe Group)
73. ARROR 601
74. BUNG'OMEK 602
75. CHERANGANY 603
76. DOROBO 604
77. EL MOLO 605
78. ENDO 606
79. ILCHAMUS 607
80. KEIYO 608
81. KIPSIGIS 609
82. MARAKWET 610
83. NANDI 611
84. NJEMPS 612
85. OGIEK 613
86. SABOAT 614
87. SAMOR 615
88. SENGER 616
89. SENGWER 617
90. TERIK 618
91. TUGEN 619
92. KENYAN SOMALI 700 (Tribe Group)
93. AJURAN 701
94. BORANA 702
95. BURJI 703
96. DASENACH 704
97. DEGODIA 705
98. GABRA 706
99. GALLA 707
100. GOSHA 708
101. GURREH 709
102. HAWIYAH 710
103. KONSO 711
104. MERILE 712
105. OGADEN 713
106. ORMA 714
107. RENDILE 715
108. SAKUYE 716
109. WAAT 717
110. KENYAN ARABS 718
111. KENYAN ASIANS 719
112. KENYAN EUROPEANS 720
113. KENYAN AMERICANS 721
114. KENYAN 722
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Why do you even bother to answer him ?
I would have asked you to carry the post below to the guy who says you have a low IQ but I see he has already acknowledged it. 8)
:D :D
Kweli Audacity of hope ni dawa ya Punda.
He beats him blue and black with facts and erudite analysis, mpaka ashindwa kujibu.
Continue doing the lord's work my broda.
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Rambling on and on like a raving lunatic.
The point is 42 tribes generally include all Kalenjin, Luhya and Mijikenda subtribes.
The main point being when you talk about 45 tribes remember to factor at least those 30 subtribes.
So dont go around claiming Ruto has appointed from Kalenjin - that is 10 tribes
You need to pass basic level of sound argumentation to warrant a response.
For example of 44 or 45 tribes - Luhya is counted and so are the almost 17 subtribes; Kalenjin 11 substribes; combined Kalenj+Luhya is almost 20 tribes. Mijikenda 9 tribes. We are at 30 tribes. The rest are the 14 - Luo, Abasuba, Somali, Kikuyu, Meru, Embu, Mbeere, Kamba...get the drift moron.
Of the 44 kenya tribes - 30 are sub tribes of Luhya, Kalenjin and Mijikenda. I personally choose my tribe as Kipsigis but can pick Kalenjin sometimes. You also pick Bukusu as tribe and Luhya sometimes.
Pundit usually has no comeback when I answer him. Over here also was no different :sign0081:
https://nipate.net/index.php?topic=11751.msg106806#msg106806
Sagana 3.
Uhuru Tosha remarks.
Who told you ODM will provide presidential candidate?
What if the bigger coalition - Jubilee backed by 10 parties
OKA - backed by 5 parties.
Decide that Kalonzo should run the ticket.
or even decide that Ruto has "reformed" and back him :)
Please hold it until Chebukati receives formal nomination papers.
Mambo bado.
Somethings still dont make sense - to me - and with my long political knowledge - I'd be very afraid if I was Raila.
Dont be like maDVD who feed Uhuru and Ruto with Mandazi - was handed power for two weeks - then found himself offside.
If small parties are saying they dont trust Raila....and would rather sign with dead Jubilee.
You think Uhuru, kalonzo and Gideon will trust Raila with PORK.
Sometimes you're the user - sometimes you're being used.
Hakuna drift hapo. If you are going to adopt a nonsensical line about sub-tribes purporting them to be official tribes then HELLO, I will pass you the 2009 census list EACH WITH A CODE where one was asked to choose where they belonged. That list had 114 codes meaning 114 ethnic groupings (not 44). When Uhuru signed up Makonde as the 43rd tribe in 2017 and then followed with Gazetting the Indian as 44th, I believe that period was still Jubilee 1.0 and therefore YOU STILL SUPPORTED HIM, so you have no reason to claim that at that point he was not of sound mind signing documents he didn't understand or with no historical basis!
For example of 44 or 45 tribes - Luhya is counted and so are the almost 17 subtribes; Kalenjin 11 substribes; combined Kalenj+Luhya is almost 20 tribes. Mijikenda 9 tribes. We are at 30 tribes. The rest are the 14 - Luo, Abasuba, Somali, Kikuyu, Meru, Embu, Mbeere, Kamba...get the drift moron.
Bullcrap! 42 tribes is derived from the 1969 census and was kept that way by successive politicians for convenience. Uhuru added the Makonde and Indians in 2017. The official 1962 census tribes are listed below.
Ethnic groupings in Kenya were a colonial creation (Thanks Amb Kimani for reminding the world of the same) made in their "wisdom" of grouping by what they perceived as ethnic homogeneity. Post independence politicians decided to leave that enumeration methodology intact to ride on political numbers (in 2013 some fake Jubilee professor introduced the term 'tyranny of numbers'). If you look at the listing below, Kikuyu is one tribe, Luhya is one tribe and Mijikenda one tribe!. You can choose to be daft if that does not make sense to you.
We often talk of the 'big 5'. The 1962 census and 1969 had the Kikuyu, Luhya, Luo, Kamba and Kisii as the big five.
Moi fiddled in 1979 census to impose the Kalenjin as a tribe and displace the Kisii from that coveted spot of big five. However many people forget that the colonial government already recognized many distinct cultures as tribes even though they had fewer than populations of 100,000 persons and that is how we arrive at 42. YOU DO NOT GET TO 42 by haphazardly dismembering tribes to sub-tribes. 36 tribes were recognized in the 1962 census while 42 were recognized in the 1969 census. So can we please desist from making our own numbers (like unschooled people) when already what is official a tribe is already DOCUMENTED in government records?
Tribe and Population in 1962 Census
Kikuyus- 1,642,065
Luo - 1,148,355
Luhya - 1,086,409
Kamba - 933,219
Kisii - 538,343
Meru - 439,921
Mijikenda - 414,887
Kipsigis - 341,771
Nandi - 170,085
Maasai - 154,079
Tugen - 109,691
Elgeyo - 100,871
Embu - 95,647
Taita - 83,613
Pokot - 76,537
Teso - 72,357
Marakwet - 66,965
Kuria - 41,885
Tharaka - 38,474
Mbere - 38,172
Sabaot - 28,012
Nderobo - 14,378
Bajun - 11,280
Swahili/Shirazi - 8,657
Taveta - 4,855
Boni/Sanye - 4,797
Njemps - 4,681
Somali - 275,241
Turkana - 181,387
Boran - 58,346
Samburu - 48,750
Pokomo - 30,350
Rendile - 13,724
Orman - 11,646
Gabbra - 11,478
Sakuye - 1,681
Not stated - 15,481
TOTAL - 8,318,070
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