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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on August 09, 2021, 07:18:33 PM
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THE NEW POLITICAL DISPENSATION
We have had a productive consultative meeting with elected leaders, professionals, civil society and other stakeholders from the Nyanza region. This is part of the ongoing Hustler Nation discourse that puts issues of ordinary people; mama mboga, bodaboda operators, farmers, traders, pastoralists and fishermen at the centre of our political conversation.
This is a new paradigm premised on freeing our country from ethnic politics and conversations that is only centred on leaders.
We have a new engagement of people centred issues with tangible live changing results.
At the core of the Hustler Nation conversation is the Bottom-Up Economic Model that focuses on enterprises at the bottom of our social and economic pyramid.
This is a departure from the trickle down model that has for years excluded millions of citizens from the economic mainstream denying them the opportunity to realize their full potential. This model has failed to create enough jobs, expand opportunities and bring prosperity. Instead, it has fostered a hostile environment, benefitted a few, bred corruption, patronage and created cartels.
Over the past two days, we have held a brainstorming session with Leaders, professionals and representatives of integral stakeholder segments drawn from the Nyanza region. We have had a robust, extensive, frank and candid engagement on the single most important destiny-changing discussion in our country’s economic history.
The deliberations have led to the following economic development priorities of the Nyanza region:
1. Revival of the Sugar Industry:
This country continues to be a net importer of sugar. Yet, there exists a huge opportunity in Nyanza Region being the backbone of sugar industry in the country. Knowing that cost of production per metric ton is prohibitive, a concern was raised whether we need to start a conversation on the competitiveness of the sector.
2. Optimal Exploitation Blue Economy.
The fish potential in Nyanza Region is about 300,000 metric tonnes. However, this has declined to less than 120,000 metric tonnes. As a result, Kenya is witnessing increased importation of fish mainly from China. We need to change this trend by meeting the local demand through local production and bettering the lives of the fishing community. There exists opportunities of investment around the fish value chain starting from organising fish management units to cooperatives, establishing of cold storage facilities, expansion of cage culture fishing, access to fishing gear equipment through affordable financing and countrywide promotion of fish consumption.
3. Rejuvenation of the Cotton sector together with corresponding revival of Kicomi:
In relation to the cotton value chain, the revival of KICOMI and Mountex remains a priority in providing sustainable market for farmers. We need to organize the farmers into co-operatives that can then access locally established ginneries and to maximize their output they need to access high quality seed including consideration of BT cotton.
4. Bananas
The region recognised the need for adoption of tissue culture bananas to enhance productivity, modern collection systems, storage facilities and local value addition to maximise earnings for farmers.
5. Livestock and Dairy Production
Participants appreciated the need to enhance milk production to make the region self-sufficient. This calls for investments around breeding, collection and cooling and enhanced extension services. The regional also has a sizeable population of livestock that could easily be harnessed for beef and leather production. There is, therefore, a need for investment around the beef and leather value chains
6. Coffee
The forum acknowledged the potential for coffee to be a key source of income to most farmers in the region. The country presently produces around 36,000MT and there exists huge potential to even double it and Nyanza region provides a huge opportunity. It was therefore agreed that there is a need for investment in accessibility of high-quality seed varieties, mini-processing and milling in the region.
7. Small and Micro-enterprises
It was agreed that there will be modalities to support farmers and small and micro-enterprises (MSMEs) to access credit to boost productivity. Predatory lending has stifled growth and innovation among SMEs which constitute 80% of the employment in the country. The meeting therefore suggested the need for an all-inclusive and friendly credit model that prioritizes the needs of mama mbogas, boda bodas, fisherfolks and other sectors.
8. Rice
There needs to be a keener focus on the exploitation of rice farming in the region, particularly expansion and operationalization of irrigations schemes that includes Ahero, Oluch-Kimira and Lower Kuja schemes among others.
9. Infrastructure (Roads, Water & Sanitation, Electricity, Air Strips etc) of priority in this area is the Lake Region Ring Road and upgrading of the Kisumu international airport cargo division.
10. Mining – The need to fully exploit the existing natural resources in the region that includes Gold in Migori, Soap stone in Kisii, Oil in Kano/Nyakach and Iron Ore in Homabay.
11. High Value Crops - Enhancement of Agricultural Production in general entailing underexploited potentials like Tobacco, Avocado, Mango, Sorghum, Sweet potato, Banana, Maize, Soya and Sunflower.
12. Tourism-focusing on relevant aspects of the Western Tourism Circuit, cultural heritages, creative industry, and sports as a business.
13. The caucus also discussed other sectors including Energy, Health, Education and Training, Sports & Talent development and ICT to prepare the region for the fourth industrial revolution.
This engagement will progressively cover all counties, regions and all sectors of our economy. We have already held similar consultations with the Mount Kenya region. We have also planned similar engagements and consultations with Western, Northern, the Coast, Nairobi, Eastern and Rift Valley regions.
Today, we have structured the framework for these consultations and agreed as follows:
1) The most important conversation is on the empowerment of small businesses, increasing farmers’ earnings and creating an enabling environment that rewards hard work, nurtures creativity and promotes initiative for all to flourish.
2) To ensure that an all-inclusive conversation takes root, we have agreed on a framework of engagement beginning at the grassroots with farmers, entrepreneurs, traders, cooperatives and other producer and business associations encompassing all the key agricultural value chains in particular tea, coffee, dairy, fresh produce, rice and miraa.
3) Patriotic Kenyans of all shades – scholars, professionals, subject matter experts, business and community leaders – will be brought on board to facilitate this comprehensive, all-encompassing national engagement.
This conversation will culminate in a national economic charter that embodies aspirations of, and our commitments to Kenyans at the grassroots and especially the hustlers at the fringes of our economic life.
This is the new conversation. This is the new politics.
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MALARKEY
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Bottoms up is a farce, you do not start apple, Microsoft, Facebook or cure cancer in a bottom up economy. Creating jobs, big business, fund research and universities, manufacturing, most things used in Kenya can be produced there, fund agriculture, tourism etc by the way Uhuru despite COVID has done very well in infrastructure. Bottoms up means lots of Kenyans replicating little businesses like boda boda, there is only so much space for that.
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FB: You are ignorant on this one. MS and FB started Bottom Up. I know that for certain. Anything technology started Bottom up except for technology for the military. MS/FB started as Juakali ideas. Do you get my point. I work in Silicon Valley. 80% of those ideas are Bottom up Juakali. I dare say that even the technology driving guys like Walmart/Amazon (Not their brick n mortar), but areas such as eComm, Logistics technology, middleware, is mostly Juakali initiatives Bottom up depending heavily on venture capital and mortgaging your house and selling your car tires etc. You is wrong....dead wrong!
Bottoms up is a farce, you do not start apple, Microsoft, Facebook or cure cancer in a bottom up economy. Creating jobs, big business, fund research and universities, manufacturing, most things used in Kenya can be produced there, fund agriculture, tourism etc by the way Uhuru despite COVID has done very well in infrastructure. Bottoms up means lots of Kenyans replicating little businesses like boda boda, there is only so much space for that.
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:D :D
To borrow a biblical phrase, "it is more plausible for a camel to pass through the eye of needle than for Bill to fix this country"
Putting Looto in charge of this country is akin to letting a wolf herd sheep, bad idea.
Anyway I will enjoy his asinine promises for what they are - comedy, comedic farce.
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FB: You are ignorant on this one. MS and FB started Bottom Up. I know that for certain. Anything technology started Bottom up except for technology for the military. MS/FB started as Juakali ideas. Do you get my point. I work in Silicon Valley. 80% of those ideas are Bottom up Juakali. I dare say that even the technology driving guys like Walmart/Amazon (Not their brick n mortar), but areas such as eComm, Logistics technology, middleware, is mostly Juakali initiatives Bottom up depending heavily on venture capital and mortgaging your house and selling your car tires etc. You is wrong....dead wrong!
Bottoms up is a farce, you do not start apple, Microsoft, Facebook or cure cancer in a bottom up economy. Creating jobs, big business, fund research and universities, manufacturing, most things used in Kenya can be produced there, fund agriculture, tourism etc by the way Uhuru despite COVID has done very well in infrastructure. Bottoms up means lots of Kenyans replicating little businesses like boda boda, there is only so much space for that.
FB like the internet was first military tech at its core. Let that sink in. Destroys your argument ab initio
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:D :D :D :D :D
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Well said. Nearly all business start as startups or smes; and they move slowly to medium firms; to regional firms; to national firms; to international MNC.
The problem in Africa - majority never get out of the informal SME phase.
FB: You are ignorant on this one. MS and FB started Bottom Up. I know that for certain. Anything technology started Bottom up except for technology for the military. MS/FB started as Juakali ideas. Do you get my point. I work in Silicon Valley. 80% of those ideas are Bottom up Juakali. I dare say that even the technology driving guys like Walmart/Amazon (Not their brick n mortar), but areas such as eComm, Logistics technology, middleware, is mostly Juakali initiatives Bottom up depending heavily on venture capital and mortgaging your house and selling your car tires etc. You is wrong....dead wrong!
Bottoms up is a farce, you do not start apple, Microsoft, Facebook or cure cancer in a bottom up economy. Creating jobs, big business, fund research and universities, manufacturing, most things used in Kenya can be produced there, fund agriculture, tourism etc by the way Uhuru despite COVID has done very well in infrastructure. Bottoms up means lots of Kenyans replicating little businesses like boda boda, there is only so much space for that.
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Btw, why is Ruto going to talk to "professionals" from Nyanza about hustlers instead of going to the ground and talking to the fisher mongers on the shores of Lake Victoria?
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These are very intellectual and technical debates - led by wakina Ndii and other economists. Ruto has been on the ground for many years. COVID allowing - I think the intention is to have national conference -after all the regions - with fair representation of the real hustlers.
Ultimately although each region has unique needs; I would love a generic model that works for everyone.
If it's agribusiness - it should not matter if you're engaged in fishing or ricing farming or tea farming - the model should be the same.
That bottom-up model should be simple, generic and scalable.
The consensus is tending towards a co-operative led formalization of the informal sector with injection of state funds to lower credit cost and mass deliberate employment through mass housing, mass low level infrastructure of roads - rural and inner urban roads- and manufacturing.
Those two are enough - for MSME - they need money and formalization - and for the unemployed - they need jobs.
The rest is continuation of existing policies - on social investment in HCI - free education, tivet and fixing NHIF.
How do we structure the SME state funds - or using existing banks - but with gov guranteed low interest. I would go with using the existing COOP bank - but with 100M Kshs ring-fenced for each constitutuency for agribuisness and such small biashara funded through SACCOS. I would also go with matching funds - btw gov/donors/banks.
Btw, why is Ruto going to talk to "professionals" from Nyanza about hustlers instead of going to the ground and talking to the fisher mongers on the shores of Lake Victoria?
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Bullshit talking points parroted by every pretender leader.
Sugar industry is dead for one and nothing can ever be done to revive it
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"Knowing that cost of production per metric ton is prohibitive, a concern was raised whether we need to start a conversation on the competitiveness of the sector."
Ruto already told RV farmers to stop planting Maize. Plant Avacado. Do Dairy. Plant Nuts. Plant horticulture. Plan high value crops. Farming should move from food security to agribusiness.
Western and Luo Nyanza farmers need to stop planting Sugar cane.
The same need to happen to Wheat and even Rice.
We can never be competitive - we are punishing hustlers with very high Sugar, Unga and Rice prices - codemning many to poverty - in things that are really useless to grow - and that we will never be competitive in.
Solution is simple. Privatize the sector completely - sell all state owned sugar factories for 1 shs - remove COMESA thing - and flood the market with cheap international sugar. Let those who want to survive survive.
Gov should subsidize fertilizers and seeds for all farmers - and give them cheap loans. The rest they should handle and compete internationally so they do not punish consumers with high prices.
Bullshit talking points parroted by every pretender leader.
Sugar industry is dead for one and nothing can ever be done to revive it
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"Knowing that cost of production per metric ton is prohibitive, a concern was raised whether we need to start a conversation on the competitiveness of the sector."
Ruto already told RV farmers to stop planting Maize.
Western and Luo Nyanza farmers need to stop planting Sugar cane.
The same need to happen to Wheat and even Rice.
We can never be competitive - we are punishing hustlers with very high Sugar, Unga and Rice prices - in things that are really useless to grow.
Solution is simple. Privatize the sector completely - sell all state owned sugar factories for 1 shs - remove COMESA thing - and flood the market with cheap international sugar. Let those who want to survive survive.
Gov should subsidize fertilizers and seeds for all farmers - and give them cheap loans. The rest they should handle and compete internationally so they do not punish consumers with high prices.
Bullshit talking points parroted by every pretender leader.
Sugar industry is dead for one and nothing can ever be done to revive it
So there are no opportunities there. Ndii’s take on this is 120% on point. But while working for Babu it was too radioactive to mention it during campaigns so they let it slide.
When and where did Ruto tell RV to drop maize?
To the best of my knowledge, he overworked during their first term to kill Galana because its success would have been the end of RV maize and livelihoods
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The reality is although agrictulure goods are not taxed - kenya consumers is paying a lot for SUGAR, BREAD, UGALI and RICE - THESE ARE BASIC commodities - we are not competitive in these things. And it's causing a lot of strain and poverty in poor families....these are products they can get at half or a third the current prices if we were to allow free imports. And in turn we export horticulture and such products.
Kenya sustain sugar farming, rice farming, wheat farming - and they become regional hotpotatos. WE NEED POLITICAL COURAGE to tell farmers - stop this nonsense - we will help you plant something else.
It requires leadership.
Ruto has not only told RV farmers to stop Maize - he has led by example - that is why Turkey man was around.
When Ruto told people to stop planting maize - Kielweke spread propaganda that he was cultivating 0.5m acres in Congo
So there are no opportunities there. Ndii’s take on this is 120% on point. But while working for Babu it was too radioactive to mention it during campaigns so they let it slide.
When and where did Ruto tell RV to drop maize?
To the best of my knowledge, he overworked during their first term to kill Galana because its success would have been the end of RV maize and livelihoods
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Ruto in 2018 faced Kalenjin in the eye and told them to forget Maize. In fact from then nobody talks maize and price expectation. It going to die naturally...and quickly if Ruto was PORK...and be replaced with avacados, coffees, and such. The maize and sugar were brought by Brits - they are not working. Time to grow something else.
Farming has to move from food - to AGRIBUSINESS. There will never be lack of enough food in internaitonal market - especially cheap sugar, maize, wheat and such. Crops that are best grown on large scale. The acreage has reduced kenya farmers should focus on high value crops.
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Ruto tells Kalenjin to leave Maize. Ruto clearly explain his change of mind - from seeing agricluture - as food security where people stock food - to agribusiness. He clearly say Maize and Farming is hopeless.
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No wonder he and his buddies brought NCPB to its knees with the help of the then Agiculture CS Mwangi Kiunjuri.
Ruto tells Kalenjin to leave Maize. Ruto clearly explain his change of mind - from seeing agricluture - as food security where people stock food - to agribusiness. He clearly say Maize and Farming is hopeless.
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Uganda has no ncpb - neither does TZ - and they sell maize cheaply - leave alone Mexico or US. I have seen the wheat in the temperature world - you cannot compare to whatever we do in Kenya. Leave these things to Brazil (cheap sugar), Asian (cheap rice), Europe and Canadas (wheat), America(Maize) - and let us go for agribusiness- horticulture.
If they are strategic like maize - NCPBB should source for maize everywhere including Mexico - and Keep the required millions of bags.
There is a lot we can sell - especially tropical all-year-round fruits - bananas, pineapples - name them.
At this stage - agriculture for food should be left for old people - but young farmers need agribusiness - and there are things that make sense - not maize or sugar - we need seasonal high value crops
No wonder he and his buddies brought NCPB to its knees with the help of the then Agiculture CS Mwangi Kiunjuri.
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The reality is although agrictulure goods are not taxed - kenya consumers is paying a lot for SUGAR, BREAD, UGALI and RICE - THESE ARE BASIC commodities - we are not competitive in these things. And it's causing a lot of strain and poverty in poor families....these are products they can get at half or a third the current prices if we were to allow free imports. And in turn we export horticulture and such products.
Kenya sustain sugar farming, rice farming, wheat farming - and they become regional hotpotatos. WE NEED POLITICAL COURAGE to tell farmers - stop this nonsense - we will help you plant something else.
It requires leadership.
Ruto has not only told RV farmers to stop Maize - he has led by example - that is why Turkey man was around.
When Ruto told people to stop planting maize - Kielweke spread propaganda that he was cultivating 0.5m acres in Congo
So there are no opportunities there. Ndii’s take on this is 120% on point. But while working for Babu it was too radioactive to mention it during campaigns so they let it slide.
When and where did Ruto tell RV to drop maize?
To the best of my knowledge, he overworked during their first term to kill Galana because its success would have been the end of RV maize and livelihoods
Right,
You can’t protect an industry for four decades in the name of outdated import substitution theory.
Problem is the economic shocks among farmers. Western Kenya is still struggling to figure out what ELSE they can do apart from sugarcane.
A smoother transition could have been making Galana work and having Galana maize compete with farmers,and the. Opening the floodgates to imports
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Open the sugar, maize, wheat floodgates and within 1-2 yrs people will have figured out how to survive.
We cannot protect farmers; yet impoverish everyone; esp the urban poor; who spend half their money on food; imagine if they bought bread, maize and rice at half price.
There is no shock people cannot survive. In South Rift - Bomet esp - the Maize viral disease - made maize farming impossible for a decade.
People slowly diversified.
Ruto need to do this after he become PORK; on first year; open up all sectors for international competition but subsidize farmers inputs. If after you get farm inputs subsidy - and you cannot compete; then you cannot be helped.
In any case how do you block Uganda and Tanzania - who are in East Africa - and starting to eat our lunch in all these things
Right,
You can’t protect an industry for four decades in the name of outdated import substitution theory.
Problem is the economic shocks among farmers. Western Kenya is still struggling to figure out what ELSE they can do apart from sugarcane.
A smoother transition could have been making Galana work and having Galana maize compete with farmers,and the. Opening the floodgates to imports
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Luo Nyanza has a candidate who understands what it needs and is not a battle ground. Moreover Nyanza is growing economically right now at unprecedented rate since handshake. There is a strong perception that like Moi, Ruto will marginalize Nyanza and he cannot overcome that perception when RAO is also running. He needs to spend his valuable time elsewhere. I hope RAO would not spend too much time campaigning in Kaleland either. They should stick to the battle grounds.
Open the sugar, maize, wheat floodgates and within 1-2 yrs people will have figured out how to survive.
We cannot protect farmers; yet impoverish everyone; esp the urban poor; who spend half their money on food; imagine if they bought bread, maize and rice at half price.
There is no shock people cannot survive. In South Rift - Bomet esp - the Maize viral disease - made maize farming impossible for a decade.
People slowly diversified.
Ruto need to do this after he become PORK; on first year; open up all sectors for international competition but subsidize farmers inputs. If after you get farm inputs subsidy - and you cannot compete; then you cannot be helped.
In any case how do you block Uganda and Tanzania - who are in East Africa - and starting to eat our lunch in all these things
Right,
You can’t protect an industry for four decades in the name of outdated import substitution theory.
Problem is the economic shocks among farmers. Western Kenya is still struggling to figure out what ELSE they can do apart from sugarcane.
A smoother transition could have been making Galana work and having Galana maize compete with farmers,and the. Opening the floodgates to imports
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Ruto is going to fix Nyanza? What else is he going to fix?
God help us. We're being hustled out of our brains.
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Of course, Ruto won't spend so much there; Kuria and Gusii definitely, but definitely for Luo Nyanza, it gets party agents to avoid Raila stuffing ballots or gather evidence. In meantime I think Ruto should concentrate on Migori - Obado and waKuria combination - can sneak in some susprises.
Luo Nyanza has a candidate who understands what it needs and is not a battle ground. Moreover Nyanza is growing economically right now at unprecedented rate since handshake. There is a strong perception that like Moi, Ruto will marginalize Nyanza and he cannot overcome that perception when RAO is also running. He needs to spend his valuable time elsewhere. I hope RAO would not spend too much time campaigning in Kaleland either. They should stick to the battle grounds.
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Kibera. He will finish what KaSweetie Waiguru started. :D :D :D :D
Ruto is going to fix Nyanza? What else is he going to fix?
God help us. We're being hustled out of our brains.
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Luo Nyanza has a candidate who understands what it needs and is not a battle ground. Moreover Nyanza is growing economically right now at unprecedented rate since handshake. There is a strong perception that like Moi, Ruto will marginalize Nyanza and he cannot overcome that perception when RAO is also running. He needs to spend his valuable time elsewhere. I hope RAO would not spend too much time campaigning in Kaleland either. They should stick to the battle grounds.
I slightly disagree, Raila still has pockets of support deep in RV, kale elite don't like Ruto for some reason.
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In Kalenjin - Stop planting Maize - Plant coffee, boma road, avacados,
https://www.facebook.com/111580257092798/videos/351963229994045/