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Offline RV Pundit

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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2014, 04:36:14 PM »
Omollo what you do not get is..where will you lay sewers, roads, electricity? The land need to surveyed and tiled..with portions removed for roads,sewer and wayleaves.

So the first step is to for gov to give up the land. Right now it gov land...grabbed by citizens.

The gov will then decide who to issue the title to the land....i would suggest they give it to all slum dwellers...and after that move in and erect peacons....

And then start building the roads and the sewers...


1. The Irons sheets are not to be interfered with. They disappear on their own;
2. The mistake made is to imagine one can put up high quality houses in a slum and they would be any different. If you look at the architectural history of Kibera, it has been "improving" with time without ever ceasing to be a slum. Form grass thatched houses to mabati and now bricks and blocks. Yet it remains a slum.


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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2014, 04:45:55 PM »
Omollo what you do not get is..where will you lay sewers, roads, electricity? The land need to surveyed and tiled..with portions removed for roads,sewer and wayleaves.

So the first step is to for gov to give up the land. Right now it gov land...grabbed by citizens.

The gov will then decide who to issue the title to the land....i would suggest they give it to all slum dwellers...and after that move in and erect peacons....

And then start building the roads and the sewers...
Actually Pundit, the roads are well marked out and planned for the entire Nairobi. That is the tricky part. You need the political will power to force those roads through.

Stage one is sensitization where you call all those affected or to be affected to meetings and impress on them the need for the roads. Stage two is to let the politicians and other busy bodies know all this (above) plus that there is no option to it
Stage Three is to swing in to action with or without their support and construct the infrastructure.

It is NOT easy and will never be easy. There will be opposition from NGOs and politicians. But you move on and do it and that fizzles. You know estates like Umoja etc were only put up after bulldozers went in to clear the shanties. That is archaic.

Surveying land and issuing titles can go on now or later. It wont stop you. There are roads and other amenities in areas that have no titles issued. The Key is using city physical planning maps that clearly show the room for the said infrastructure.

Note that a place like Kayole has ALL the roads tarmacked. The only problem is that they are all under mud. Why? because failure to use modern methods of street cleaning and to maintain the drainage.
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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2014, 04:56:21 PM »
Who owns the Kibera land? Govt?

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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2014, 04:58:43 PM »
Good ideas.
Public involvement to reduce corruption.

Omollo what you do not get is..where will you lay sewers, roads, electricity? The land need to surveyed and tiled..with portions removed for roads,sewer and wayleaves.

So the first step is to for gov to give up the land. Right now it gov land...grabbed by citizens.

The gov will then decide who to issue the title to the land....i would suggest they give it to all slum dwellers...and after that move in and erect peacons....

And then start building the roads and the sewers...
Actually Pundit, the roads are well marked out and planned for the entire Nairobi. That is the tricky part. You need the political will power to force those roads through.

Stage one is sensitization where you call all those affected or to be affected to meetings and impress on them the need for the roads. Stage two is to let the politicians and other busy bodies know all this (above) plus that there is no option to it
Stage Three is to swing in to action with or without their support and construct the infrastructure.

It is NOT easy and will never be easy. There will be opposition from NGOs and politicians. But you move on and do it and that fizzles. You know estates like Umoja etc were only put up after bulldozers went in to clear the shanties. That is archaic.

Surveying land and issuing titles can go on now or later. It wont stop you. There are roads and other amenities in areas that have no titles issued. The Key is using city physical planning maps that clearly show the room for the said infrastructure.

Note that a place like Kayole has ALL the roads tarmacked. The only problem is that they are all under mud. Why? because failure to use modern methods of street cleaning and to maintain the drainage.

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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2014, 05:52:02 PM »
Who owns the Kibera land? Govt?
For now I believe it is GoK or Nairobi County. I have no idea. But the infrastructure has been planned for many years ago.
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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2014, 06:41:02 PM »
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Kidero can build soviet style high rises and rent them to the current tenants. Am sure they pay rent. Land will belong to county. Or even better contract a private developer lease the land and build apts at a min fee.

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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2014, 12:10:37 AM »
You guys are kidding..Akon is from Senegalese background...



Akon was born in St. Louis, and spent much of his childhood in the West African country Senegal, which he describes as his "hometown".

Senegal is poorer than kenya.

Now, tell me why this guy would come and do charity work for kenyans while his people are suffering in poverty?

Something is very wrong with this picture.  :D
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Re: Kenya is doomed-Rapper to electrify slums
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2014, 07:14:54 PM »
The thug forgot to bring along his fellow hoodrat Young Jeezy.  You judge a person by the company they keep.

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