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Russia war will expand
« on: January 16, 2024, 03:31:48 AM »
Putin is waiting for his cronies to win. Russia will become USSR.
All colonies will will be reintegrated.
Europe will change. No immigrants.
Musevenis, Kagames, W.Africa dictators will be stronger with Russia support.
Kenya, Tz, will struggle to adapt.

All this is possible if tRUMP wins.

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Re: Russia war will expand
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2024, 03:54:20 AM »
Kenyans immigrants in USA need to prepare for the worst.
We need to come up survival ideas.
It may be too late if we wait till Jan next year.

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Re: Russia war will expand
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2024, 10:45:24 AM »
How will Putin expand his war and he cannot even defeat Ukraine? The war is costing Russia a lot of human lives and monetary terms. Putin will be lucky to keep the parts of Ukraine he already occupies. Even Trump will not be able to offer him more than that.
You are also assuming even little states like Georgia will agree to go back to USSR without a fight. Nobody in this world goes back to slavery willingly.

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Re: Russia war will expand
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2024, 08:54:47 PM »
Start bombing Baltic States.

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Re: Russia war will expand
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2024, 11:51:33 PM »
ThE houthis and Iran are attacking American and European ships,The Americans may extend their attacks on Iran.Russia and Iran are partners.This war will escalate because if you attacks shipping,you destroy the American and European economies.Russia is fully aiding these actions covertly.we may have a full scale war in coming months.

Europeans rely on gas and oil imports,the American economy depends on international trade-sea.The Arabs and Russians have oil and gas which Europea depends on,It's WAR TIME.

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Re: Russia war will expand
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2024, 10:52:04 AM »
The Baltic states are in the NATO. An attack against any of those countries is considered an attack on other members of NATO. Russia cannot even defeat Ukraine. How will it handle a NATO onslaught?

Start bombing Baltic States.

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Re: Russia war will expand
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2024, 10:54:47 AM »
It is as if shipping is only a Western economy issue. Do you think China and even African countries are not affected? If US economy goes down, it takes Asean economy down with it. Who buys most Chinese made products?

ThE houthis and Iran are attacking American and European ships,The Americans may extend their attacks on Iran.Russia and Iran are partners.This war will escalate because if you attacks shipping,you destroy the American and European economies.Russia is fully aiding these actions covertly.we may have a full scale war in coming months.

Europeans rely on gas and oil imports,the American economy depends on international trade-sea.The Arabs and Russians have oil and gas which Europea depends on,It's WAR TIME.

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Re: Russia war will expand
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2024, 02:02:42 PM »
It is as if shipping is only a Western economy issue. Do you think China and even African countries are not affected? If US economy goes down, it takes Asean economy down with it. Who buys most Chinese made products?

ThE houthis and Iran are attacking American and European ships,The Americans may extend their attacks on Iran.Russia and Iran are partners.This war will escalate because if you attacks shipping,you destroy the American and European economies.Russia is fully aiding these actions covertly.we may have a full scale war in coming months.

Europeans rely on gas and oil imports,the American economy depends on international trade-sea.The Arabs and Russians have oil and gas which Europea depends on,It's WAR TIME.

EXACTLY!
Red sea will affect every country in the world directlky or indirectly.

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Re: Russia war will expand
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2024, 04:09:57 PM »
It is as if shipping is only a Western economy issue. Do you think China and even African countries are not affected? If US economy goes down, it takes Asean economy down with it. Who buys most Chinese made products?

ThE houthis and Iran are attacking American and European ships,The Americans may extend their attacks on Iran.Russia and Iran are partners.This war will escalate because if you attacks shipping,you destroy the American and European economies.Russia is fully aiding these actions covertly.we may have a full scale war in coming months.

Europeans rely on gas and oil imports,the American economy depends on international trade-sea.The Arabs and Russians have oil and gas which Europea depends on,It's WAR TIME.

EXACTLY!
Red sea will affect every country in the world directlky or indirectly.

Of course every country will be affected.

In the past,The Americans put alot of economic sanctions on Russia,China and Iran.To make matters worse,they even provoked the Russians in the Ukraine war which had an impact on global economy.How are the Russians,Iran and China retaliating?They are supporting the Houthis.That technically means that the Houthi rebel groups (Russia/Iran) are attacking American and European ships but not Russian or Chinese Ships.That means that USA/Europe global trade will be affected due to high shipping cost and lost business.The USA EU goverment bonds will lose value,The Interest rates will go up,The banks will lend money to citizens and corporations at high rates,That means economic slowdown in both Europe and USA.After the Ukraine war,How many regimes in Europe have been ousted?To make matters worse,The Middle East crisis will lead to high gas and fuel prices especially in Europe.Thats because 30% + of gas fuel imports are from ME&Russia.That means an economic crisis hence political crisis in the West.

Putin is a legend.Disrupt global trade in the red sea,Russia is a major oil and gas station,High gas prices is a major benefit to the Russians,Iran & China while a disadvantage to the west.As the war escalates,The dollar/Euro/pound weaken,The world order changes.

Lastly,Any Ship carrying any hardware meant to supply the NATO military complex needs to find a different route.

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Re: Russia war will expand
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2024, 04:20:28 PM »
Who put sanctions against China? Where does China come in in this equation? China is not a participant in any of these wars.

Of course every country will be affected.

In the past,The Americans put alot of economic sanctions on Russia,China and Iran.To make matters worse,they even provoked the Russians in the Ukraine war which had an impact on global economy.How are the Russians,Iran and China retaliating?They are supporting the Houthis.That technically means that the Houthi rebel groups (Russia/Iran) are attacking American and European ships but not Russian or Chinese Ships.That means that USA/Europe global trade will be affected due to high shipping cost and lost business.The USA EU goverment bonds will lose value,The Interest rates will go up,The banks will lend money to citizens and corporations at high rates,That means economic slowdown in both Europe and USA.After the Ukraine war,How many regimes in Europe have been ousted?To make matters worse,The Middle East crisis will lead to high gas and fuel prices especially in Europe.Thats because 30% + of gas fuel imports are from ME&Russia.That means an economic crisis hence political crisis in the West.

Putin is a legend.Disrupt global trade in the red sea,Russia is a major oil and gas station,High gas prices is a major benefit to the Russians,Iran & China while a disadvantage to the west.As the war escalates,The dollar/Euro/pound weaken,The world order changes.

Lastly,Any Ship carrying any hardware meant to supply the NATO military complex needs to find a different route.

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Re: Russia war will expand
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2024, 04:48:51 PM »
Who put sanctions against China? Where does China come in in this equation? China is not a participant in any of these wars.

Of course every country will be affected.

In the past,The Americans put alot of economic sanctions on Russia,China and Iran.To make matters worse,they even provoked the Russians in the Ukraine war which had an impact on global economy.How are the Russians,Iran and China retaliating?They are supporting the Houthis.That technically means that the Houthi rebel groups (Russia/Iran) are attacking American and European ships but not Russian or Chinese Ships.That means that USA/Europe global trade will be affected due to high shipping cost and lost business.The USA EU goverment bonds will lose value,The Interest rates will go up,The banks will lend money to citizens and corporations at high rates,That means economic slowdown in both Europe and USA.After the Ukraine war,How many regimes in Europe have been ousted?To make matters worse,The Middle East crisis will lead to high gas and fuel prices especially in Europe.Thats because 30% + of gas fuel imports are from ME&Russia.That means an economic crisis hence political crisis in the West.

Putin is a legend.Disrupt global trade in the red sea,Russia is a major oil and gas station,High gas prices is a major benefit to the Russians,Iran & China while a disadvantage to the west.As the war escalates,The dollar/Euro/pound weaken,The world order changes.

Lastly,Any Ship carrying any hardware meant to supply the NATO military complex needs to find a different route.


(A) Entity list-117 Trade sanctions on China.
Indirect sanctions through Tariffs-Over $200BN USD.That is over 30% of USA China Trade annually.

(B) Russia & Iran Major Trading Partners?It's China.That means USA Europe sanctions on Iran & Russia have a big effect on the Chinese Economy.So When the USA gov outs tariffs on Chinese goods,It means less demand for China industries and less demand for oil and gas from Russia.When the USA also supports the Ukraine War,It affects the Chinese economy due to slower economic activity in Russia.

C) Europe imports over 30% of its oil from Russia & ME.That means a crisis in the Red sea which affects trade means a slower economy in Europe.What makes matters worse,If the conflict escalates,that means high fuel n gas prices for European industries,that makes the European commodities not competitive against Chinese products.It also means high cost of transport and food.It means a weak economy and political social unrest like we saw in France.

D) Who are the biggest buyer of USA gov bonds?It's China and Offshore countries like Cayman Islands where the Russians hide.A weak economic activity in USA & Europe means high interest on USA gov bonds,Who earns the high interest?It's the lender,The Chinese,Russians.That means high interest rates for banks,companies and people.Is that good politics?Is it good for the dollar long term?

The events by Houthis should not be isolated as terrorist events but regional politics.Remeber Putin visited Bin Salman weeks ago,Who knows what they discussed?

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Re: Russia war will expand
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2024, 05:56:54 PM »
Bwana Githunguri, with all due respect, those are trade tariffs and not sanctions. Even Trump placed steel tariffs on steel products from Europe. China did the same for agricultural products from the US. This has nothing to do with the war in the Ukraine or in Palestine.


(A) Entity list-117 Trade sanctions on China.
Indirect sanctions through Tariffs-Over $200BN USD.That is over 30% of USA China Trade annually.

(B) Russia & Iran Major Trading Partners?It's China.That means USA Europe sanctions on Iran & Russia have a big effect on the Chinese Economy.So When the USA gov outs tariffs on Chinese goods,It means less demand for China industries and less demand for oil and gas from Russia.When the USA also supports the Ukraine War,It affects the Chinese economy due to slower economic activity in Russia.

C) Europe imports over 30% of its oil from Russia & ME.That means a crisis in the Red sea which affects trade means a slower economy in Europe.What makes matters worse,If the conflict escalates,that means high fuel n gas prices for European industries,that makes the European commodities not competitive against Chinese products.It also means high cost of transport and food.It means a weak economy and political social unrest like we saw in France.

D) Who are the biggest buyer of USA gov bonds?It's China and Offshore countries like Cayman Islands where the Russians hide.A weak economic activity in USA & Europe means high interest on USA gov bonds,Who earns the high interest?It's the lender,The Chinese,Russians.That means high interest rates for banks,companies and people.Is that good politics?Is it good for the dollar long term?

The events by Houthis should not be isolated as terrorist events but regional politics.Remeber Putin visited Bin Salman weeks ago,Who knows what they discussed?

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Re: Russia war will expand
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2024, 11:58:10 PM »
Bwana Githunguri, with all due respect, those are trade tariffs and not sanctions. Even Trump placed steel tariffs on steel products from Europe. China did the same for agricultural products from the US. This has nothing to do with the war in the Ukraine or in Palestine.


(A) Entity list-117 Trade sanctions on China.
Indirect sanctions through Tariffs-Over $200BN USD.That is over 30% of USA China Trade annually.

(B) Russia & Iran Major Trading Partners?It's China.That means USA Europe sanctions on Iran & Russia have a big effect on the Chinese Economy.So When the USA gov outs tariffs on Chinese goods,It means less demand for China industries and less demand for oil and gas from Russia.When the USA also supports the Ukraine War,It affects the Chinese economy due to slower economic activity in Russia.

C) Europe imports over 30% of its oil from Russia & ME.That means a crisis in the Red sea which affects trade means a slower economy in Europe.What makes matters worse,If the conflict escalates,that means high fuel n gas prices for European industries,that makes the European commodities not competitive against Chinese products.It also means high cost of transport and food.It means a weak economy and political social unrest like we saw in France.

D) Who are the biggest buyer of USA gov bonds?It's China and Offshore countries like Cayman Islands where the Russians hide.A weak economic activity in USA & Europe means high interest on USA gov bonds,Who earns the high interest?It's the lender,The Chinese,Russians.That means high interest rates for banks,companies and people.Is that good politics?Is it good for the dollar long term?

The events by Houthis should not be isolated as terrorist events but regional politics.Remeber Putin visited Bin Salman weeks ago,Who knows what they discussed?

A) Entity List.The USA has over direct 117 sanctions against China.

B) Trump placed tariffs on European steel products because I think over 30% of the products are from China & Russia.

C) China USA trade is worth about $700BN.In that trade,
China to USA exports- $500BN
USA to China exports- $200BN.
What does that data tell you?It simply says that China is the biggest beneficiary in its trade with the USA.That technically explains to you why USA put a 25% tax (tariff) on Chinese goods to make them uncompetitive in the USA market and also ensure Chinese companies don't profit.

What is the difference between a tariff and a sanction?There is no difference.The intention of both is to destroy another countries economy.

Lastly,Russia and Iran are major China partners,They cheaply sell Oil gas and steel to China.They are one of major the fuel to the Chinese industries.The Russians and Iranians use that money to fund their economies and even wars.

Should I continue?

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Re: Russia war will expand
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2024, 12:36:34 AM »
US has sanctioned Chinese companies like Huawei, ZTE, SMIC, and defense contractors like Luo Luo, GTL, Changzhou Utek.. they were accused of supplying Russia. I think even BYD is sanctioned but still beating Tesla.

Chinese space companies are also sanctioned. Can't also use ISS - China had to build their own space station.

Sanctions principally means - banned from US market, capital, tech, talent, etc. Huawei phones for instance can no longer have Android nor access apps on Google PlayStore or Apple iStore or Microsoft Store. They now have their own HarmonyOS and PalmStore.

Chinese companies like Baidu or Alibaba cannot buy Nvidia or Intel chips - even a student cannot lease TPUs on Google Cloud  or Azure for research.

The Russian war backfired on Europe economically - and Gaza is backfiring politically for US by weakening NATO. Basically Turkey has gone riot over Gaza. What happens if Turkey attacks Israel? - Turkey is in NATO and Israel is not - what does Biden do?
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Re: Russia war will expand
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2024, 12:58:48 AM »
Being put on Entity List means all those things. This Gaza war I see as aimed at Iran and by extension China. If Iran attacks Israel - they will be bombed back to stone age or ayatollah overthrown. China will have to decide to join the war or stand aside gnashing teeth.

But China is smart and has not taken the Taiwan bait for years. I won't be surprised to find right now Chinese are busy installing missile defenses in Iran and other mischief.
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Re: Russia war will expand
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2024, 07:15:34 PM »
Putin is waiting for Trump. He will then start a NATO war. Simple

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Re: Russia war will expand
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2024, 03:20:35 PM »
Start bombing Baltic States.


No, it is other way round! It is Ukraine expanding conflict. They just bombed St. Petersburg 1,100km interior of Russia!

Everyday this conflict continues Putin embarrasses himself mbele ya Watu wake and the world.....

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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2024, 11:55:07 PM »
Start bombing Baltic States.


No, it is other way round! It is Ukraine expanding conflict. They just bombed St. Petersburg 1,100km interior of Russia!

Everyday this conflict continues Putin embarrasses himself mbele ya Watu wake and the world.....

A cornered dog will do anything. So, widen the conflict to Baltics.

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Re: Russia war will expand
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2024, 11:11:22 PM »
Kadudu here are US sanctions on China


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