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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2023, 11:01:32 PM »
Why I call what spew as upuzi is specifically for this reasons
In the last senate only Kipchumba Murkomen voted against One Man One shilling
The other Kalenjin Senators likes of Samson Cherargei,Aaron Cheryuoit , Margaret Kamar, Gideon Moi, Christipher Langat and Samuel Phogisio  voted for it.

https://www.kenyans.co.ke/news/55824-25-senators-who-shot-down-revenue-allocation-formula-list

kalenjin leadership will never be part of one man nonsense as it runs contra to decency. This kind of tribal nonsense had ended until uhuru handshake.

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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2023, 11:11:29 PM »
GG Kagombe point is simple.
Lets give reasonable bursaries to every child.
Every county n cdf get reasonable allocation following fair process with 80 percent of that formulae being population factor plus other factors considered including  geographical size, poverty index, etc.Gatundu should be last people to complain. Kikuyus should not feel any special because no one else is complaining..This kind of nonsense is what led Kikuyus being attacked in all corners of kenya. You need to learn to grateful. Don't isolate yourself. Raila relevance last two decade is down to kikuyu insolence

one thing ill never do on this forum is to engage into stupid arguments with you.

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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2023, 11:26:45 PM »
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If I didn't know any better, I would have sworn I was listening to a MAGA moron.  No difference, especially in the derisive attitude towards the "less hardworking" folks.
exactly. We are dealing with same problem

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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2023, 11:29:35 PM »
Kikuyus are not in any way jealous of Somalis, how you can extrapolate a small local issue to talk of genocide is beyond me. Somalis are no where near Kikuyus, in fact most of them hold Kikuyus in awe. To eclipse a tribe like kikuyu, it takes more than a few buildings or real estate development. It takes years of education and developing Human Resource, come here in the USA and we will show you how Kenyan Somalis are not even close. I am all for devolution and even to sub-location level but in Kenya, translating that to development remains a huge myth.
Dude somalis n Eritrean play in big league.Its like Gujerratis,Chinese, Jews and such merchant tribes.kikuyus you don't feature. Somalis are serious international businesses men for centuries. Kikuyus should read books..somalis, gujeratis,Jews,some Chinese, etc are in another league. Just plant potatoes..don't stress us with China square..Indians..somalis every few months. There merchenantile tribes...somalis are crazy risk takers..go to even CAR.Somalis like Gujerratis and Jews have built international network  based on trust that do business worldwide. You can't beat them

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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2023, 11:31:41 PM »
Why I call what spew as upuzi is specifically for this reasons
In the last senate only Kipchumba Murkomen voted against One Man One shilling
The other Kalenjin Senators likes of Samson Cherargei,Aaron Cheryuoit , Margaret Kamar, Gideon Moi, Christipher Langat and Samuel Phogisio  voted for it.

https://www.kenyans.co.ke/news/55824-25-senators-who-shot-down-revenue-allocation-formula-list

kalenjin leadership will never be part of one man nonsense as it runs contra to decency. This kind of tribal nonsense had ended until uhuru handshake.
Ruto was handling gema leader idiots like babies..motion had to be defeated..without making the stupid gema look like idiots.Sakaja brilliantly saved the situation

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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2023, 11:38:36 PM »
Even in Jesus time somalis were traders.Wachana na wao. Dont think they need cdf or county to thrive. Every country they go they will strive..so will jews and the Gujerratis of India.You can't beat then.
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_history_of_Somalia

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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2023, 11:58:43 PM »
Why I call what spew as upuzi is specifically for this reasons
In the last senate only Kipchumba Murkomen voted against One Man One shilling
The other Kalenjin Senators likes of Samson Cherargei,Aaron Cheryuoit , Margaret Kamar, Gideon Moi, Christipher Langat and Samuel Phogisio  voted for it.

https://www.kenyans.co.ke/news/55824-25-senators-who-shot-down-revenue-allocation-formula-list

kalenjin leadership will never be part of one man nonsense as it runs contra to decency. This kind of tribal nonsense had ended until uhuru handshake.
Ruto was handling gema leader idiots like babies..motion had to be defeated..without making the stupid gema look like idiots.Sakaja brilliantly saved the situation

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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2023, 12:35:19 AM »
Why I call what spew as upuzi is specifically for this reasons
In the last senate only Kipchumba Murkomen voted against One Man One shilling
The other Kalenjin Senators likes of Samson Cherargei,Aaron Cheryuoit , Margaret Kamar, Gideon Moi, Christipher Langat and Samuel Phogisio  voted for it.

https://www.kenyans.co.ke/news/55824-25-senators-who-shot-down-revenue-allocation-formula-list

kalenjin leadership will never be part of one man nonsense as it runs contra to decency. This kind of tribal nonsense had ended until uhuru handshake.
Ruto was handling gema leader idiots like babies..motion had to be defeated..without making the stupid gema look like idiots.Sakaja brilliantly saved the situation
most of kalenjin were btw rock n hard place..today they should be free to reject blackmail

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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2023, 12:58:11 AM »
GG Kagombe point is simple.
Lets give reasonable bursaries to every child.
Every county n cdf get reasonable allocation following fair process with 80 percent of that formulae being population factor plus other factors considered including  geographical size, poverty index, etc.Gatundu should be last people to complain. Kikuyus should not feel any special because no one else is complaining..This kind of nonsense is what led Kikuyus being attacked in all corners of kenya. You need to learn to grateful. Don't isolate yourself. Raila relevance last two decade is down to kikuyu insolence

one thing ill never do on this forum is to engage into stupid arguments with you.

Its a country wide problem.revenue sharing.
The resources in urban settlements and highly populated areas are squeezed especially towarsds social services like health,education.

In an area like Kiambu,There are so many luhyas and luos working in tea and coffee plantations,house maids,factories n ruiru which employ thoysands and they send their kids to schools in these areas,How many kikuyus do you find in kisumu or kakamega versus luos and luhya in kiambu?
How many mijikenda do you find in nyanza versus luos in likoni?

Secondly,We need to check the money disbursed to coounties and constituencies versus population.Alot of people are suffering.Id rather be a shamba boy in uasin ngishu than be a slum resident in mathare.life in towns is difficult for kids and parent.In towns there are now cows water firewood food soil made houses.you pay for everything even being a pastoralist is better.

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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2023, 01:21:17 AM »

Nop there was no blackmail , Cherargei and Cheryuoit were the most vocal amongst supporters of One man One shilling because they knew based on their county population they would benefit at the behest of Somali , Turkana and Samburu Mijikenda and Taita .
They even gave Malala and Sakaja a tongue lash .
Kamar , Phogisio and Moi did it for political reasons they had just been given positions in the new Jubilee arrangement.
 Murkomen and kindiki had just been demoted from Majority leader and Deputy speaker positions they were fighting back and also knew this was a ploy leading to Raila using it to advance BBI and later use the momentum for 2022 elections .
Well you can say they were principled just like you and I. Yours was agaist GEMA benefiting mine is because I believe in Kenya as a Nation and also knew Raila was going to use it as a political tool.

Why I call what spew as upuzi is specifically for this reasons
In the last senate only Kipchumba Murkomen voted against One Man One shilling
The other Kalenjin Senators likes of Samson Cherargei,Aaron Cheryuoit , Margaret Kamar, Gideon Moi, Christipher Langat and Samuel Phogisio  voted for it.

https://www.kenyans.co.ke/news/55824-25-senators-who-shot-down-revenue-allocation-formula-list

kalenjin leadership will never be part of one man nonsense as it runs contra to decency. This kind of tribal nonsense had ended until uhuru handshake.
Ruto was handling gema leader idiots like babies..motion had to be defeated..without making the stupid gema look like idiots.Sakaja brilliantly saved the situation
most of kalenjin were btw rock n hard place..today they should be free to reject blackmail

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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #50 on: April 24, 2023, 01:52:51 AM »

Of Kalenjin leaders will never support one man on shilling vote

Part 1 Kalenjin RV Governors



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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2023, 02:00:28 AM »
Of Kalenjin leaders will never support one man on shilling vote

Part 2 -Cherargei




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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2023, 02:37:14 AM »


Of Kalenjin leaders will never support one man on shilling vote

Part 3 Margaret Kamar


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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2023, 02:47:59 AM »


Of Kalenjin leaders will never support one man on shilling vote

Part 4 Governor Tolgos




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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2023, 03:08:39 AM »
Our friend here is not getting enough sleep, his brain is rotting before our eyes .. ?s=46&t=3-3-_ehcZbukDCK7hNe5LA

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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #55 on: April 24, 2023, 07:11:40 AM »

Of Kalenjin leaders will never support one man on shilling vote

Part 1 Kalenjin RV Governors


Again you're highlighted the same nonsense...one bunch were uhuru bought idiots..the other was trying to give gema fake support. End of day these kind of one man nonsense will never see the light

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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2023, 10:47:16 AM »
Says one very ignorant person. Have you been to those areas to see that "development" of the last years of Uhuru's regime?

I just do not understand Mt Kenya folks and its politicians. After more than 35 years at the helm of the country they lead in complaining about the distribution of national resources. Why did they not develop and push for the necessary policies when their man was at the top? Is their a region that is more developed in Kenya than Mt Kenya region?

On the schools. Most schools were not built using CDF (illegal fund), but using national resources and many of the schools were built by missionaries before the Kenya goverment nationalised them. The semi-arid regions never had this pravilege. Several of the top national schools today were even built by the British settlers for their own kids. Of course no settler would have had the idea of building a school for his kid in Mandera. It is a pity that Mt Kenya politicians can incite their folks to believe that they receive less than what they deserve.

Gatundu South MP Gabriel Kagombe is in parliament. Why not table a bill to "rectify" what he deems wrong rather than go to barazas to preach hatred?

You have to understand Kikuyus are also under a lot of duress having being in power for longest and having Uhuru gatheca blow up his 10 years has left alot of frustrated people.
Uhuru was a disaster Kiambu is now a cesspool of some sort. All development was taken to nyanza and kakamega.

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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #57 on: April 24, 2023, 11:35:18 AM »
Exactly. We need to nip this problem from re-emerging again. It had disappeared after PEV of 2007 and many Mt kenya leaders had decided to behave. The bad manners are creeping back.

Says one very ignorant person. Have you been to those areas to see that "development" of the last years of Uhuru's regime?

I just do not understand Mt Kenya folks and its politicians. After more than 35 years at the helm of the country they lead in complaining about the distribution of national resources. Why did they not develop and push for the necessary policies when their man was at the top? Is their a region that is more developed in Kenya than Mt Kenya region?

On the schools. Most schools were not built using CDF (illegal fund), but using national resources and many of the schools were built by missionaries before the Kenya goverment nationalised them. The semi-arid regions never had this pravilege. Several of the top national schools today were even built by the British settlers for their own kids. Of course no settler would have had the idea of building a school for his kid in Mandera. It is a pity that Mt Kenya politicians can incite their folks to believe that they receive less than what they deserve.

Gatundu South MP Gabriel Kagombe is in parliament. Why not table a bill to "rectify" what he deems wrong rather than go to barazas to preach hatred?

You have to understand Kikuyus are also under a lot of duress having being in power for longest and having Uhuru gatheca blow up his 10 years has left alot of frustrated people.
Uhuru was a disaster Kiambu is now a cesspool of some sort. All development was taken to nyanza and kakamega.

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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #58 on: April 24, 2023, 02:31:07 PM »
Somali is a tribe of one lawyer, one doctor, one nurse, two engineers etc they are no where near the big leagues on anything.

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Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #59 on: April 24, 2023, 02:37:43 PM »
In business - they run everything in east africa - not just kenya. Somalis are very good merchants. Very great risk takes. Very trusthworthy. Very cooperative amongst themselves.  Somalis thrive almost in every country...in small business.

Like Gujeratis of Indian - let try to emulate - otherwise mindless hatred of Somalis like most GEMA have - is pointless - Somalis will continue to thrive and overtake many business - because they are smart businessmen.

And so are the Jews


Somali is a tribe of one lawyer, one doctor, one nurse, two engineers etc they are no where near the big leagues on anything.