Author Topic: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness  (Read 2694 times)

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 37007
  • Reputation: 1074446
Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« on: April 23, 2023, 07:36:29 AM »
Instead of championing for national integration and harmony they continue to pursue narrow selfish interests ?s=19

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 37007
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2023, 07:39:14 AM »
?s=19

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 37007
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2023, 07:43:48 AM »
The lesson from 2007 pogrom should not be forgotten by kikuyu nation.Dont make your people subject of hate so much they got attacked from all corners of kenya. Kenya has been generous to kikuyu nation giving them leadership for 35yrs and also Nairobi by happenstance sits in your homeland.Stop the 1 man 1 shillings nonsense from moses kuria when he was drunk. The next boundary review many central const will de eliminated due to declining population. Kikuyus will continue to spread and do business. Don't hurt them with baseless selfish propaganda. SIT DOWN AND GET DATA.Apart from const within Nairobi and Nakuru metro which attract population from all over world..the one man one shilling will disadvantage almost all gema const bar the Ruirus or Juja or such overlying areas with many tribes as residents. Stop selfishness. Stop complaining. Other kenyan have it worse and their grievance more genuine. Build nationhood. By time you feel a turkana or somali have it better than you then you're either ignorant or sick like white American complaining about blacks.TAKE a bus to mandera..travel 800kms in dirt road from Garissa...stop the culture of complaining and entitlement...everyone has a bad deal and they getting on.

Offline Njuri Ncheke

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 2555
  • Reputation: 5000
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2023, 08:16:21 AM »
Instead of championing for national integration and harmony they continue to pursue narrow selfish interests ?s=19
You are obsessed with okuyu. Sorry Pundit however this guy has said 100% truth his language only the undoing as its colloquial and lacks diplomacy and better communication skills.
I can vouch for him when he says warias just are about building big houses i suspect this guy has lived in north eastern or even isiolo. Warias have mbigger than life imagination you just haven't interacted with them.
That said Pundit Okuyu wont learn anything they dont as they always do very well in Kenya.
During 07 it was aid Kibaki was ready to sacrifice 10,000 okuyus too bad only 1,300 okuyus got done for just 10 percent of Kibakis target.
Kikuyu can sacrifce 100,000 and they will be just fine.

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 37007
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2023, 08:36:00 AM »
Njuri..I hope next time you offer yourself for sacrifices.one less idiot would  make Kenya better.You're in isiolo but don't see anything wrong with your presence..but see a problem when few wariah come to meru and thrive. Gema have significant dorobo selfish genes that they need to guard against. It's riles me as kalenjin to see any selfishness as our culture is of extreme generosity .Learn to share.

Offline Njuri Ncheke

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 2555
  • Reputation: 5000
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2023, 09:16:35 AM »
Njuri..I hope next time you offer yourself for sacrifices.one less idiot would  make Kenya better.You're in isiolo but don't see anything wrong with your presence..but see a problem when few wariah come to meru and thrive. Gema have significant dorobo selfish genes that they need to guard against. It's riles me as kalenjin to see any selfishness as our culture is of extreme generosity .Learn to share.
Pundit we are talking about Kikuyus not Merus am just calling it like it is with Kikuyus,f
For Merus where have you seen Merus go and take anyone land. Isiolo is historically Meru the south and east part of it we have been there for time memorial ,you want to make it as if we are invaders, actually on contrary we are being attacked by foreigners warias who haven't been there atleast Samburu and borana can claim to be also natives. You see Meru dont have a problem there are thousands of wariahs in Meru no one cares not just warias mogusii jaluo luhyas and Kikuyus are many in urban areas its diverse everyone carries on ,Wameru hawana Ukabila.
Quote
   Identity:
Since the language of the Meru people is a Bantu language, they have traditionally been classified as Bantu.  Some studies on Meru history shows some of the Meru are Cushitic in origin.  Language history can be more easily reconstructed, but ethnic merging is more subtle.  Insights are provided by the complex oral traditons of multiple origins. 
http://orvillejenkins.com/profiles/meru.html

https://www.101lasttribes.com/tribes/meru.html

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 37007
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2023, 09:20:33 AM »
Now you're speaking. We want devolution but not tribalism. We want harmony. As long as we don't have those historical land issues like in isiolo..let move up n down. How to redress historical claims is another difficult conversation and remarks like the moronic gatundu mp who has had presidency for 25yrs are most unfortunate. Gatundu n Baringo central should be the last to complain Both have enjoyed lots of public goodies and should be grateful

Offline Njuri Ncheke

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 2555
  • Reputation: 5000
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2023, 09:49:40 AM »
Now you're speaking. We want devolution but not tribalism. We want harmony. As long as we don't have those historical land issues like in isiolo..let move up n down. How to redress historical claims is another difficult conversation and remarks like the moronic gatundu mp who has had presidency for 25yrs are most unfortunate. Gatundu n Baringo central should be the last to complain Both have enjoyed lots of public goodies and should be grateful
You have to understand Kikuyus are also under a lot of duress having being in power for longest and having Uhuru gatheca blow up his 10 years has left alot of frustrated people.
Uhuru was a disaster Kiambu is now a cesspool of some sort. All development was taken to nyanza and kakamega.

Offline Nowayhaha

  • VIP
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 6733
  • Reputation: 5000
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2023, 09:52:08 AM »
When I call you a Moist and an ODMer this is what I mean. You are the reason why Ruto is losing so much support in GEMA.
Right now he needs more of GEMA with onslaught from Raila but you are here advocating for pogroms against GEMA.
As for the CDF the courts were right its unconstitutional and should exist  . It was a mistake executive using backdoor to bring it back in a quest to corrupt and control the legislature . Hence the reason such first time Mps are trying to have it increased for own personal and political reasons.
Kenya is a unitary country a people like you who think from tribal perspectives are in the same boat like this MP you both are enemies of Kenya . We were moving away from tribal politics and you are here bringing us back.
Ruto also is not doing Kenya justice taking advice from tribal kalenjins like you and appointing majority of Kalenjins in vital parastatal sectors , this will be used against him .


The lesson from 2007 pogrom should not be forgotten by kikuyu nation.Dont make your people subject of hate so much they got attacked from all corners of kenya. Kenya has been generous to kikuyu nation giving them leadership for 35yrs and also Nairobi by happenstance sits in your homeland.Stop the 1 man 1 shillings nonsense from moses kuria when he was drunk. The next boundary review many central const will de eliminated due to declining population. Kikuyus will continue to spread and do business. Don't hurt them with baseless selfish propaganda. SIT DOWN AND GET DATA.Apart from const within Nairobi and Nakuru metro which attract population from all over world..the one man one shilling will disadvantage almost all gema const bar the Ruirus or Juja or such overlying areas with many tribes as residents. Stop selfishness. Stop complaining. Other kenyan have it worse and their grievance more genuine. Build nationhood. By time you feel a turkana or somali have it better than you then you're either ignorant or sick like white American complaining about blacks.TAKE a bus to mandera..travel 800kms in dirt road from Garissa...stop the culture of complaining and entitlement...everyone has a bad deal and they getting on.

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 37007
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2023, 11:48:36 AM »
When I call you a Moist and an ODMer this is what I mean. You are the reason why Ruto is losing so much support in GEMA.
Right now he needs more of GEMA with onslaught from Raila but you are here advocating for pogroms against GEMA.
As for the CDF the courts were right its unconstitutional and should exist  . It was a mistake executive using backdoor to bring it back in a quest to corrupt and control the legislature . Hence the reason such first time Mps are trying to have it increased for own personal and political reasons.
Kenya is a unitary country a people like you who think from tribal perspectives are in the same boat like this MP you both are enemies of Kenya . We were moving away from tribal politics and you are here bringing us back.
Ruto also is not doing Kenya justice taking advice from tribal kalenjins like you and appointing majority of Kalenjins in vital parastatal sectors , this will be used against him .


The lesson from 2007 pogrom should not be forgotten by kikuyu nation.Dont make your people subject of hate so much they got attacked from all corners of kenya. Kenya has been generous to kikuyu nation giving them leadership for 35yrs and also Nairobi by happenstance sits in your homeland.Stop the 1 man 1 shillings nonsense from moses kuria when he was drunk. The next boundary review many central const will de eliminated due to declining population. Kikuyus will continue to spread and do business. Don't hurt them with baseless selfish propaganda. SIT DOWN AND GET DATA.Apart from const within Nairobi and Nakuru metro which attract population from all over world..the one man one shilling will disadvantage almost all gema const bar the Ruirus or Juja or such overlying areas with many tribes as residents. Stop selfishness. Stop complaining. Other kenyan have it worse and their grievance more genuine. Build nationhood. By time you feel a turkana or somali have it better than you then you're either ignorant or sick like white American complaining about blacks.TAKE a bus to mandera..travel 800kms in dirt road from Garissa...stop the culture of complaining and entitlement...everyone has a bad deal and they getting on.
You need to seek medical help for your insanity

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 37007
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2023, 11:50:41 AM »
Now you're speaking. We want devolution but not tribalism. We want harmony. As long as we don't have those historical land issues like in isiolo..let move up n down. How to redress historical claims is another difficult conversation and remarks like the moronic gatundu mp who has had presidency for 25yrs are most unfortunate. Gatundu n Baringo central should be the last to complain Both have enjoyed lots of public goodies and should be grateful
You have to understand Kikuyus are also under a lot of duress having being in power for longest and having Uhuru gatheca blow up his 10 years has left alot of frustrated people.
Uhuru was a disaster Kiambu is now a cesspool of some sort. All development was taken to nyanza and kakamega.
It's creeping of bad behaviour that started recently that had been dealt with after 2007 pogrom when kikuyu nation realised they need introspection. These leaders can only succeed in isolating their people with such boneheaded hopeless 1 man 1 shillings nonsense

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 37007
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2023, 12:35:54 PM »
The kind of reaction and the unnecessary expending of goodwill ?s=19

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 37007
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2023, 12:37:17 PM »
?s=19

Offline Nowayhaha

  • VIP
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 6733
  • Reputation: 5000
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2023, 02:36:26 PM »
When I call you a Moist and an ODMer this is what I mean. You are the reason why Ruto is losing so much support in GEMA.
Right now he needs more of GEMA with onslaught from Raila but you are here advocating for pogroms against GEMA.
As for the CDF the courts were right its unconstitutional and should exist  . It was a mistake executive using backdoor to bring it back in a quest to corrupt and control the legislature . Hence the reason such first time Mps are trying to have it increased for own personal and political reasons.
Kenya is a unitary country a people like you who think from tribal perspectives are in the same boat like this MP you both are enemies of Kenya . We were moving away from tribal politics and you are here bringing us back.
Ruto also is not doing Kenya justice taking advice from tribal kalenjins like you and appointing majority of Kalenjins in vital parastatal sectors , this will be used against him .


The lesson from 2007 pogrom should not be forgotten by kikuyu nation.Dont make your people subject of hate so much they got attacked from all corners of kenya. Kenya has been generous to kikuyu nation giving them leadership for 35yrs and also Nairobi by happenstance sits in your homeland.Stop the 1 man 1 shillings nonsense from moses kuria when he was drunk. The next boundary review many central const will de eliminated due to declining population. Kikuyus will continue to spread and do business. Don't hurt them with baseless selfish propaganda. SIT DOWN AND GET DATA.Apart from const within Nairobi and Nakuru metro which attract population from all over world..the one man one shilling will disadvantage almost all gema const bar the Ruirus or Juja or such overlying areas with many tribes as residents. Stop selfishness. Stop complaining. Other kenyan have it worse and their grievance more genuine. Build nationhood. By time you feel a turkana or somali have it better than you then you're either ignorant or sick like white American complaining about blacks.TAKE a bus to mandera..travel 800kms in dirt road from Garissa...stop the culture of complaining and entitlement...everyone has a bad deal and they getting on.
You need to seek medical help for your insanity

Offline Githunguri

  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 2332
  • Reputation: 0
  • Raila Odinga.President of the Republic of Kenya.
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2023, 03:00:19 PM »
GG Kagombe point is simple.
Lets give reasonable bursaries to every child.

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 37007
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2023, 04:04:48 PM »
GG Kagombe point is simple.
Lets give reasonable bursaries to every child.
Every county n cdf get reasonable allocation following fair process with 80 percent of that formulae being population factor plus other factors considered including  geographical size, poverty index, etc.Gatundu should be last people to complain. Kikuyus should not feel any special because no one else is complaining..This kind of nonsense is what led Kikuyus being attacked in all corners of kenya. You need to learn to grateful. Don't isolate yourself. Raila relevance last two decade is down to kikuyu insolence

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 37007
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2023, 04:16:30 PM »
?s=19

Offline Nowayhaha

  • VIP
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 6733
  • Reputation: 5000
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2023, 04:58:31 PM »

He is complaining about CDF which they use to disburse bursary . CDF is illegal and should be banned .
If as you claim one man one shilling should benefit the marginalised more why are you complaining and attacking GEMA .
Why dont you deal with this Mp as an individual why drag the whole of GEMA . It just shows your biaseness against GEMA
Fyi its GEMA who made Ruto the president even if he opposed the BBI and one vote one shilling in the last regime  which was being advocated by Azimio . Why werent you attacking GEMA then .
You hate for GEMA is very evident stop pretending .

GG Kagombe point is simple.
Lets give reasonable bursaries to every child.
Every county n cdf get reasonable allocation following fair process with 80 percent of that formulae being population factor plus other factors considered including  geographical size, poverty index, etc.Gatundu should be last people to complain. Kikuyus should not feel any special because no one else is complaining..This kind of nonsense is what led Kikuyus being attacked in all corners of kenya. You need to learn to grateful. Don't isolate yourself. Raila relevance last two decade is down to kikuyu insolence

Offline lelewela

  • Superstar
  • *
  • Posts: 178
  • Reputation: 0
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2023, 05:10:00 PM »
No one hates Kikuyus more than themselves.

Pundit basically says don't be selfish, share with other Kenyans what you have the same way you want to have a share in every county migrating to as far as Lamu where a small tribal clash will be a massacre for the diaspora Kikuyus settled near the wariahs.

Central  think of Diaspora Kikuyu interest, that is all .Kikuyu learned boys/girls from central are oblivious to this. It is your choice, fight for Kenya where a kikuyu can be the head of the port of Mombassa, or a Kenya kikuyus have no rights outside Central.

Offline gout

  • VIP
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 3760
  • Reputation: 1374
Re: Few kikuyu Leaders unto darkness
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2023, 05:11:42 PM »
There are quite some valid questions. It is time we had serious honest public debates such as these ones. The quota system in allocation of school spaces have recognised that.

The fact that most national and extra county schools are located in Central means the quota system works against the locals. It is true that the locals have built the schools and waria seem to be doing nothing. With the population buge and livestock wealth itabidi waache ujinga.

CDF builds infrastructure then a school is classified as extra county.



I underestimated the heartbreaks visited by hasla revolution