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Re: IEBC(or Replacement) Should Be Devolved
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2022, 06:50:02 PM »
Your moral compass needs rewinding. It is the coup plotters who want Kenyans to be shot in the streets, village bushes, to die of hunger, strife just to give an orgasm to psychopathic losers. Anybody taking out the psychopaths will be doing millions of Kenyans a favour.

Gout you also want people shot dead?
Precisely.Why should we sit and allow them to mess our country like we are helpless.Article 3 gives us power to defend the constitution.Chebukati was doing his job but what was Lt gen Ogolla doing apart of executing an attempted civilian coup? Mutyabai and Ogeto all should be shot on sight until the threat to peace is neutralized

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Re: IEBC(or Replacement) Should Be Devolved
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2022, 07:13:23 PM »
ELOG and other local and international observers said election was fair, credible, and verifiable. What else do people want? Raila lost fairly and we should be discussing how losers ought to bow out gracefully, not dissolving a body that works. IEBC may not be as perfect and quick in tallying and reporting results promptly like in a day or few hours, so that should be the area of discussion. Another thing is IEBC's independence should be strengthened, especially from corrupt government like Uhuru's. Chebukati want government interferences to stop. You cannot change results to suit one person!   
Langata Nixon korir lost by small margin n admitted it with his tallies.Prof Lonya lost by smallest margin and admit defeat.Isaac Ruto the same.What is lacking is the culture of being brave to take defeat like a man... it's painful to lose but someone has to lose..and not cry from here to Timbuktu when you lose an election.Someone has to lose even if by singular vote.Raila if he admitted defeat in 2013 would have learn lessons...but it was lame excuse of blaming everyone but themselves... democracy can only function if losers take defeat and don't test he mettle of democratic institution with long bitter tales . IEBC is now totally broken threatening the stability of Kenya in caseof a rerun

I thought there is a petition at the SCORK challenging the results? Isn't that democracy? Loser heading to court and the court determines?

So according to you, the only way one is deemed a democrat is by accepting and moving on? What are you afraid of if you believe KK won fair and square? Why not let them have their day in court, which is their constitutional right?

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Re: IEBC(or Replacement) Should Be Devolved
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2022, 07:15:02 PM »
Your moral compass needs rewinding. It is the coup plotters who want Kenyans to be shot in the streets, village bushes, to die of hunger, strife just to give an orgasm to psychopathic losers. Anybody taking out the psychopaths will be doing millions of Kenyans a favour.

Gout you also want people shot dead?
Precisely.Why should we sit and allow them to mess our country like we are helpless.Article 3 gives us power to defend the constitution.Chebukati was doing his job but what was Lt gen Ogolla doing apart of executing an attempted civilian coup? Mutyabai and Ogeto all should be shot on sight until the threat to peace is neutralized

Chebukati was also accused of malpractice even before the elections. Should he be shot on sight too?

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Re: IEBC(or Replacement) Should Be Devolved
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2022, 07:38:52 PM »
ELOG and other local and international observers said election was fair, credible, and verifiable. What else do people want? Raila lost fairly and we should be discussing how losers ought to bow out gracefully, not dissolving a body that works. IEBC may not be as perfect and quick in tallying and reporting results promptly like in a day or few hours, so that should be the area of discussion. Another thing is IEBC's independence should be strengthened, especially from corrupt government like Uhuru's. Chebukati want government interferences to stop. You cannot change results to suit one person!   
Langata Nixon korir lost by small margin n admitted it with his tallies.Prof Lonya lost by smallest margin and admit defeat.Isaac Ruto the same.What is lacking is the culture of being brave to take defeat like a man... it's painful to lose but someone has to lose..and not cry from here to Timbuktu when you lose an election.Someone has to lose even if by singular vote.Raila if he admitted defeat in 2013 would have learn lessons...but it was lame excuse of blaming everyone but themselves... democracy can only function if losers take defeat and don't test he mettle of democratic institution with long bitter tales . IEBC is now totally broken threatening the stability of Kenya in caseof a rerun

I thought there is a petition at the SCORK challenging the results? Isn't that democracy? Loser heading to court and the court determines?

So according to you, the only way one is deemed a democrat is by accepting and moving on? What are you afraid of if you believe KK won fair and square? Why not let them have their day in court, which is their constitutional right?
I am afraid of destroyed institutions that are critical like iebc now a wreck next supreme court next we settle the battle with guns because right now IEBC is totally dysfunctional it can't conduct a repeat election because Raila and Uhuru have destroyed it.. chebukati barely made it because intimidation, violence, killing, kidnapping and chaos reached crescendo.Chebukati n Ruto security forces saves the day

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Re: IEBC(or Replacement) Should Be Devolved
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2022, 07:42:37 PM »
Your moral compass needs rewinding. It is the coup plotters who want Kenyans to be shot in the streets, village bushes, to die of hunger, strife just to give an orgasm to psychopathic losers. Anybody taking out the psychopaths will be doing millions of Kenyans a favour.

Gout you also want people shot dead?
Precisely.Why should we sit and allow them to mess our country like we are helpless.Article 3 gives us power to defend the constitution.Chebukati was doing his job but what was Lt gen Ogolla doing apart of executing an attempted civilian coup? Mutyabai and Ogeto all should be shot on sight until the threat to peace is neutralized

Chebukati was also accused of malpractice even before the elections. Should he be shot on sight too?
Coup or treason is not malpractices.. understand the difference please.Coup is most serious crime.What Lt Gen Ogolla attempted is akin to private Ochukas of 82.They both failed and Ogolla is going to the gallows for violating article 3 of the constitution and more so as disciplined force

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Re: IEBC(or Replacement) Should Be Devolved
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2022, 08:39:21 PM »
Your moral compass needs rewinding. It is the coup plotters who want Kenyans to be shot in the streets, village bushes, to die of hunger, strife just to give an orgasm to psychopathic losers. Anybody taking out the psychopaths will be doing millions of Kenyans a favour.

Gout you also want people shot dead?
Precisely.Why should we sit and allow them to mess our country like we are helpless.Article 3 gives us power to defend the constitution.Chebukati was doing his job but what was Lt gen Ogolla doing apart of executing an attempted civilian coup? Mutyabai and Ogeto all should be shot on sight until the threat to peace is neutralized

Chebukati was also accused of malpractice even before the elections. Should he be shot on sight too?
Coup or treason is not malpractices.. understand the difference please.Coup is most serious crime.What Lt Gen Ogolla attempted is akin to private Ochukas of 82.They both failed and Ogolla is going to the gallows for violating article 3 of the constitution and more so as disciplined force

Pundit you have lost it young man. Your bitterness is misplaced. Spewing bile right now over some hearsay, concerning an imaginary civilian coup...... Yet all along you kept on saying right here afew months back eti ruto has chebukati in his pocket. Now when the tables turn you go ballistic with all sorts of rants. Don't wish for war. You don't want war!  Nobody wants war.

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Re: IEBC(or Replacement) Should Be Devolved
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2022, 08:53:58 PM »
Your moral compass needs rewinding. It is the coup plotters who want Kenyans to be shot in the streets, village bushes, to die of hunger, strife just to give an orgasm to psychopathic losers. Anybody taking out the psychopaths will be doing millions of Kenyans a favour.

Gout you also want people shot dead?

Gout you finally open from closet that you joined the worriers. You want people shot dead to prop up the theft. What a change?
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: IEBC(or Replacement) Should Be Devolved
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2022, 09:23:42 PM »
Another solution would be have IEBC as poll agent for all political parties. Kenyans pay IEBC to oversee election and they cannot be trusted. Same Kenyans fund political parties so double taxation. If party want to send poll agent thats extra but IEBC should handle role well enough. Why is IEBC not enough to guard votes?
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: IEBC(or Replacement) Should Be Devolved
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2022, 09:33:41 PM »
Another solution would be have IEBC as poll agent for all political parties. Kenyans pay IEBC to oversee election and they cannot be trusted. Same Kenyans fund political parties so double taxation. If party want to send poll agent thats extra but IEBC should handle role well enough. Why is IEBC not enough to guard votes?
if you can't manage one day event how will manage Kenya.. please it easy..it takes being organized.. simple..