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Kalonzo's Maanzo waking up to reality
« on: February 15, 2022, 09:24:21 PM »
It wont be easy for Kalonzo to fold camp.
They better give him 3 billion Kshs
Otherwise listening to Maanzo - all the cards are on the table.


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Re: Kalonzo's Maanzo waking up to reality
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2022, 09:31:13 PM »
Maanzo: Like in Central; Ukambani will revolt if Kalonzo says Yes to Azimio and vote UDA.

Hapa project is dead.

Ruto need to get 1.5B and give Kalonzo.

Like I said you need to work the ground first - before going to boardroom - even UhuRuto worked together for 3 yrs before they signed coalition.


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Re: Kalonzo's Maanzo waking up to reality
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2022, 06:17:54 AM »
Maanzo should put his money where his mouth is.Ler him resign from wiper and defend his seat on UDA if Kalonzo joins Azimio.That is the only way to we can start consider ing him serious.

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Re: Kalonzo's Maanzo waking up to reality
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2022, 06:27:16 AM »
Ruto has worked the Ukambani ground.
Secondly the wiper thinking members like him and Kilonzo Jnr are asking serious question.
What is assurance Raila will win - when it appears Mt kenya has rejected him and he has lost ground in former NASA regions.
Raila is weaker than before - and when they gave him all the backing - he still ended up at 43 then 45 percent.
Right now OKA has flower girls - and Uhuru whose effectiveness as lameduck is doubtful.
We will see next week if he will crack the ground - or it will be a disaster.
More importantly - you're asking Kalonzo to join as No 3 - not even a No 2?
And applying pressure & madharau through governors - same treatment applied to MaDVD+Weta

That is why Kalonzo is thinking again
1) Join Azimio - risk it again for 1/3 or even less of gov.
2) Run alone and try 2007 post election deal - assuming Ruto fails to win 1st round.
3) Join Ruto - sure bet but take 1/4 - now that 1/3 has been taken by MaDVD.

If you rationally examine those options
1) Raila's Azimio is risky - and again the ground could go rouge. He will become the laughing stock going back to Ukambani this time round not even as DPORK. He has to hate Ruto that much.  In case Raila dies - he wont even be direct competition.
2) Running alone is also risky - but if forces run off - his premium rises to the roof.
3) Sure bet - Ruto already has it and Kalonzo joining him takes him to beyond 60 percent - impossible to rig or beat - but he has to accept to take 3 ministers - maybe become MaDVD assistant Chief Minister plus Foreign Affairs minister - and get two other ministries - and maybe 1/4 of ambassadors/chairman.

If I was Kalonzo - I would go for Ruto 1/4 deal - and ask for downpayment of at least 2 billion Kshs. I am sure Ruto will pay because it basically end the presidential race - and all the campaign money being wasted can be given to Kalonzo.


Maanzo should put his money where his mouth is.Ler him resign from wiper and defend his seat on UDA if Kalonzo joins Azimio.That is the only way to we can start consider ing him serious.

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Re: Kalonzo's Maanzo waking up to reality
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2022, 06:27:47 AM »
Maanzo should put his money where his mouth is.Ler him resign from wiper and defend his seat on UDA if Kalonzo joins Azimio.That is the only way to we can start consider ing him serious.
Same, let him resign and join ODM if Kalonzo joins Kenya Kwanza and see if he will make it. Right now,  people in Assimio are cashing checks, fundraising, and doing everything to pay Kalonzo because they know if he moves to Kenya Kwanza, he is moving with 95% of ukambani. However, if he moves to Azzimio he will move with a max of 65%. UDA is very strong in Ukambani and ODM is very weak!
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Re: Kalonzo's Maanzo waking up to reality
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2022, 06:34:16 AM »
I suspect Raila run to India's Gujerati to try raise money for Kalonzo. I guess Uhuru will also try to scramble some money and so is Gideon Moi - although it going to be hard for them to risk their money. Without Kalonzo - they become hopeless. With Kalonzo - at least they have fighting chance.
Same, let him resign and join ODM if Kalonzo joins Kenya Kwanza and see if he will make it. Right now,  people in Assimio are cashing checks, fundraising, and doing everything to pay Kalonzo because they know if he moves to Kenya Kwanza, he is moving with 95% of ukambani. However, if he moves to Azzimio he will move with a max of 65%. UDA is very strong in Ukambani and ODM is very weak!

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Re: Kalonzo's Maanzo waking up to reality
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2022, 06:39:49 AM »
I suspect Raila run to India's Gujerati to try race money for Kalonzo. I guess Uhuru will also try to scramble some money and so is Gideon Moi - although it going to be hard for them to risk their money. Without Kalonzo - they become hopeless. With Kalonzo - at least they have fighting chance.
Same, let him resign and join ODM if Kalonzo joins Kenya Kwanza and see if he will make it. Right now,  people in Assimio are cashing checks, fundraising, and doing everything to pay Kalonzo because they know if he moves to Kenya Kwanza, he is moving with 95% of ukambani. However, if he moves to Azzimio he will move with a max of 65%. UDA is very strong in Ukambani and ODM is very weak!
If he gets his payout, Kenya Kwanza will drive the point home that he got is cut and bundled the people of Ukambani to Raila for the third time. UDA will use Ukambani Kenya leaders to inundate locals with that message. Come election day, Azzimio will be lucky to scope 70% votes in the region.
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Re: Kalonzo's Maanzo waking up to reality
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2022, 06:44:53 AM »
The problem will be going back to sell Raila without being running mate. That will clearly demonstrate to Kambas that Kalonzo is lost cause as far as being future president. MaDVD at least has maintained his fake PMship - in both Raila and Ruto camp.

Ruto will play for 30 percent - small improvement from Jubilee in 2017 - now that he has Muthama - and he has retained the old Ukambani Jubilee stock. He will do well in Machakos and Makueni - in last MCA election - UDA missed by a whisker. Kitui he will struggle because of twin attack from embittered Ngilu-Kalonzo.

If he gets his payout, Kenya Kwanza will drive the point home that he got is cut and bundled the people of Ukambani to Raila for the third time. UDA will use Ukambani Kenya leaders to inundate locals with that message. Come election day, Azzimio will be lucky to scope 70% votes in the region.