Author Topic: What happened to our 90s opposition young turks until we are left with KANU  (Read 732 times)

Offline RV Pundit

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Only Raila seem to have survived and that he did by joining KANU & learning the ropes.

But as we approach 2022 - the choice is btw Moi boys.
Ruto
Uhuru
Gideon
Weta
MaDVD
Kalonzo
Jirongo
Atwoli

Yenyewe KANU will rule us for 100yrs.

Orengos, Kiraitus, Nyongos, Kituyis,Kivuta Kibwanas, name the young turks of 90s - have been found wanting.

It's all down to the BENJAMINS as American says.

You have no money - You cannot play Kenya SIASA. Then lot of theories from profs - instead of getting down to hard tackles of tribal politics.

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Got a report recently, and you need 24 million a day to mount anything meaningful in electioneering year. 90 days to the election, it can crank beyond 40 million a day! Only 0.2% of Kenyans can do this. Something needs to change so high school principals, lawyers, and teachers can also dream of running for president. Electorates should be donating to politicians and not the other way round. Americans pour money into your campaign if your ideas, integrity, and likability is up there in the US. Kenyan voters need to learn to donate to candidates to keep the same rich folks from running circles on us.
The future belongs to those who have a quarter of the character and integrity of RV Heavy Hitter!

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Young Turks never had any political Muscle.
They were in Ford Kenya and it perfomed dismissally in 1992 G.E.
Then the biggest Mistake is Raila destryed them before subduing them.
2 biggest Mistakes in Kenyan politics was FORD splitting  and Kibaki accepting Raila to Join NAK.
Only Raila seem to have survived and that he did by joining KANU & learning the ropes.

But as we approach 2022 - the choice is btw Moi boys.
Ruto
Uhuru
Gideon
Weta
MaDVD
Kalonzo
Jirongo
Atwoli

Yenyewe KANU will rule us for 100yrs.

Orengos, Kiraitus, Nyongos, Kituyis,Kivuta Kibwanas, name the young turks of 90s - have been found wanting.

It's all down to the BENJAMINS as American says.

You have no money - You cannot play Kenya SIASA. Then lot of theories from profs - instead of getting down to hard tackles of tribal politics.

Offline RV Pundit

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It's no joke - even MP or MCA requires a lot of money. Yes we need to change financing model. Politician also need to be person of integrity and to deliver. If they work hard - Kenyans will re-elect them as they have done - and maybe even contribute money.
Got a report recently, and you need 24 million a day to mount anything meaningful in electioneering year. 90 days to the election, it can crank beyond 40 million a day! Only 0.2% of Kenyans can do this. Something needs to change so high school principals, lawyers, and teachers can also dream of running for president. Electorates should be donating to politicians and not the other way round. Americans pour money into your campaign if your ideas, integrity, and likability is up there in the US. Kenyan voters need to learn to donate to candidates to keep the same rich folks from running circles on us.

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Surely why would someone vote 1) Dying Jaramogi who mostly senile 2) a mad Matiba who had a problem even talking?
Moi saved Kenya in 1992 from descending into big problems.
Imagine if Ken Matiba had won - and he was practical mentally incapacitated - stroke damaged Matiba - from the great leader he was - to the cabbage he became - and some folks took advantage to bankrupt his business.

1992 best candidate was Kibaki. Next was Moi.

1997 - again best candidate was Kibaki.

And I was happy he finally nailed it - but alas he was also starting to be senile - and all through his presidency could not make one coherent speech.

Brilliant Kibaki that we new - became senile - and the young turks performed dismally - and that marked the return of KANU - almost 2yrs into Kibaki PORK - KANU had regrouped.

Young Turks never had any political Muscle.
They were in Ford Kenya and it perfomed dismissally in 1992 G.E.
Then the biggest Mistake is Raila destryed them before subduing them.
2 biggest Mistakes in Kenyan politics was FORD splitting  and Kibaki accepting Raila to Join NAK.

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It is good ruto is not going outside Kenya. We may for once get a crisp revolutionary mwafrika leader the likes of sankara, lumumba, samora, mandela in their best days working for afrika.

Mzungu must be behind the raila senile folly. Not sure about the chinese, I doubt whether they would prefer a mwafrika leader who knows his shit.
I underestimated the heartbreaks visited by hasla revolution

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ARen't Kalonzo and Jirongo broke?  where is someone like Alice Wahome getting her money from?