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Gideon-Jimmy-Kalonzo coalition
« on: January 27, 2022, 01:26:00 PM »

Azimio inachezwa - these guys likely to run - and try squeeze post-election coalition.


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Re: Gideon-Jimmy-Kalonzo coalition
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2022, 03:56:57 PM »
Will Raila supporters read bewteen the lines, its over he has put all his hopes on Lazy Uhuru.

I pity the old man, Luo Nyanza needs new crop of leadership.

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Re: Gideon-Jimmy-Kalonzo coalition
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2022, 04:17:13 PM »
They can't - they think Gideon Moi is working with Uhuru to make Raila - PORK - mambo ingine inahitaji akili. They are being played offside.
Will Raila supporters read bewteen the lines, its over he has put all his hopes on Lazy Uhuru.

I pity the old man, Luo Nyanza needs new crop of leadership.

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Re: Gideon-Jimmy-Kalonzo coalition
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2022, 04:21:50 PM »

Have you changed your mind this is the best possible option of Kalonzo ?

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Re: Gideon-Jimmy-Kalonzo coalition
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2022, 04:36:33 PM »

Have you changed your mind this is the best possible option of Kalonzo ?

Azimio inachezwa - these guys likely to run - and try squeeze post-election coalition.

When you have verbal diarrhea, you forget what you wrote two seconds ago even on the same thread. Meanwhile Mr. Bean is contextualizing his predicament ...

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Re: Gideon-Jimmy-Kalonzo coalition
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2022, 04:38:40 PM »
1) Best option is to join Ruto now - and get 2 CS position - that would have gone to Muthama - plus a few ambassadors. Ruto already has this thing in the bag - baring UHURU pulling BIG SUPRISE on him in GEMA (spilling beans bla de bla) . If he join Ruto - Ruto wins like Kibaki with 65 percent landslide.

2) 2nd best option - join Raila - and hope Raila can retain Luhyas - improve in Jubilee zones - enough to get to 50 percent. Raila will give him same deal with Ruto - maybe slightly more meat - but we know Raila will not honour it - and we know Raila winning is improbable if not impossible now.

3) Third best option - is to form post-coalition. MaDVD tried that in 2013 and it backfired. Once Ruto or Raila has won - they wont need Kalonzo. they will seek to crush Kalonzo. Hakuna huruma.


Have you changed your mind this is the best possible option of Kalonzo ?

Azimio inachezwa - these guys likely to run - and try squeeze post-election coalition.


Have you changed your mind this is the best possible option of Kalonzo ?

Azimio inachezwa - these guys likely to run - and try squeeze post-election coalition.


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Re: Gideon-Jimmy-Kalonzo coalition
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2022, 04:50:06 PM »

I can see the change of heart, Joining Ruto is better than Joining Raila . However refer to 2008 If Mudavadi and Wetangula bring less votes that Kalonzo gets he will have an upper doing a Post Coalition deal.
I still maintain he should run.
1) Best option is to join Ruto now - and get 2 CS position - that would have gone to Muthama - plus a few ambassadors. Ruto already has this thing in the bag - baring UHURU pulling BIG SUPRISE on him in GEMA (spilling beans bla de bla) . If he join Ruto - Ruto wins like Kibaki with 65 percent landslide.

2) 2nd best option - join Raila - and hope Raila can retain Luhyas - improve in Jubilee zones - enough to get to 50 percent. Raila will give him same deal with Ruto - maybe slightly more meat - but we know Raila will not honour it - and we know Raila winning is improbable if not impossible now.

3) Third best option - is to form post-coalition. MaDVD tried that in 2013 and it backfired. Once Ruto or Raila has won - they wont need Kalonzo. they will seek to crush Kalonzo. Hakuna huruma.


Have you changed your mind this is the best possible option of Kalonzo ?

Azimio inachezwa - these guys likely to run - and try squeeze post-election coalition.


Have you changed your mind this is the best possible option of Kalonzo ?

Azimio inachezwa - these guys likely to run - and try squeeze post-election coalition.


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Re: Gideon-Jimmy-Kalonzo coalition
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2022, 04:55:42 PM »
My friend Gachaguas and maDVD WILL NOT ALLOW post-election deal with potential future rival.
This is exact fate that befall maDVD in 2013.
Ruto made it clear to UHURU that maDVD was out of question - as he would bring competition in Jubilee.
But he okayed Wamalwa to be brought in.
Wamalwa was roped in for post election deal.
In fact Ruto is likely to do post-coalition deal with dying Raila than give a lifeline to Kalonzo - SIASA NI KUMALIZANA

Kalonzo has really two options
1) Join Ruto now - and get foreign ministry - and another CS - plus few appointments.
2) Join Raila - and go hunting again - this time even worse as non DPORK - this could lead to problems in ukambani - but again like Kijana Wamalwa discovered in 1994 - Luos will not return favour - Kidero will emerge as next Luo kingpin as he will be serving his last term as Homabay governor and is monied.

Third option that he is trying to pull or force  a run-off - but OKA needed to be united - maDVD+Weta have made runoff out of the table.

So if he takes third option - he is going to end up lonely - but will definitely retain Ukambani 3 counties.

I can see the change of heart, Joining Ruto is better than Joining Raila . However refer to 2008 If Mudavadi and Wetangula bring less votes that Kalonzo gets he will have an upper doing a Post Coalition deal.
I still maintain he should run.

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Re: Gideon-Jimmy-Kalonzo coalition
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2022, 06:41:21 PM »
Listening to Kalonzo, it is now official that RAILA IS KAPUT. The 1.3 million votes from Ukambani that Kalonzo gave Raila in 2013 and 2017 will not be there in 2022. He will run and hope for a post election deal. The other guy from Kamoret village in Uasin Gishu, Kamagut sublocation will nick it on the first round! Raila is strong when he is not a project and utterly weak when the thrust comes from external. To make it worst the external thrust he is riding on is from weak, lazy, and  untrustworthy folks like Uhuru, Kamanda, Atwolis, Murathe, and team pombe! Ruto Kityo!
The future belongs to those who have a quarter of the character and integrity of RV Heavy Hitter!

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Re: Gideon-Jimmy-Kalonzo coalition
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2022, 07:06:03 PM »
Seem they have seperate deal with Jimmy - and poor Kipsiele Towett has Jirongo for company. I suspect Jimmy Wanjigi is working with Ruto to play Kalonzo offside. He has gone with money to Kalonzo so he doesnt chicken out. He was broke but now he seem to be floating in money. Jimmy now financing him.

Gideon brief was to keep OKA away from Ruto - seem mission failed. Now what to do - quit and join Uhuru in ill-fated Azimio or rush to Sugoi - seek forgivness?

Hii Siasa inataka Akili Mingi

Listening to Kalonzo, it is now official that RAILA IS KAPUT. The 1.3 million votes from Ukambani that Kalonzo gave Raila in 2013 and 2017 will not be there in 2022. He will run and hope for a post election deal. The other guy from Kamoret village in Uasin Gishu, Kamagut sublocation will nick it on the first round! Raila is strong when he is not a project and utterly weak when the thrust comes from external. To make it worst the external thrust he is riding on is from weak, lazy, and  untrustworthy folks like Uhuru, Kamanda, Atwolis, Murathe, and team pombe! Ruto Kityo!

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Re: Gideon-Jimmy-Kalonzo coalition
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2022, 07:19:52 PM »
Wamalwa is inner Circle,
Mudavadis mistake was he thought UhuRuto would
be a one term Government. Uhuru  has a soft spot for him, he gave him a soft landing spot. Unfortunately by then because of Mademoni debacle Luhyas were bitter with Uhuru. He decided to operate Solo until Atwoli mislead him to support Raila in 2007.

So which option do you think Kalonzo will go ?
My friend Gachaguas and maDVD WILL NOT ALLOW post-election deal with potential future rival.
This is exact fate that befall maDVD in 2013.
Ruto made it clear to UHURU that maDVD was out of question - as he would bring competition in Jubilee.
But he okayed Wamalwa to be brought in.
Wamalwa was roped in for post election deal.
In fact Ruto is likely to do post-coalition deal with dying Raila than give a lifeline to Kalonzo - SIASA NI KUMALIZANA

Kalonzo has really two options
1) Join Ruto now - and get foreign ministry - and another CS - plus few appointments.
2) Join Raila - and go hunting again - this time even worse as non DPORK - this could lead to problems in ukambani - but again like Kijana Wamalwa discovered in 1994 - Luos will not return favour - Kidero will emerge as next Luo kingpin as he will be serving his last term as Homabay governor and is monied.

Third option that he is trying to pull or force  a run-off - but OKA needed to be united - maDVD+Weta have made runoff out of the table.

So if he takes third option - he is going to end up lonely - but will definitely retain Ukambani 3 counties.

I can see the change of heart, Joining Ruto is better than Joining Raila . However refer to 2008 If Mudavadi and Wetangula bring less votes that Kalonzo gets he will have an upper doing a Post Coalition deal.
I still maintain he should run.

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Re: Gideon-Jimmy-Kalonzo coalition
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2022, 08:40:40 PM »
Kalonzo us damned either way so he has difficult choices to make.. likely he run with Jimmy

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Re: Gideon-Jimmy-Kalonzo coalition
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2022, 12:00:30 AM »
Kalonzo running will be the best option for him and Ruto. 1.3 millions votes. Atleast 3 or 4 governors and roughly 15 mps. With wiper gone UDA might take Nairobi and Mombasa governorship. But please let us have a good manager in Nairobi not wanjiru please..

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Re: Gideon-Jimmy-Kalonzo coalition
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2022, 05:50:28 AM »
Kalonzo broke? why after almost 40 years in kenyan politics?

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Re: Gideon-Jimmy-Kalonzo coalition
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2022, 06:53:41 AM »
Presidential campaign sio mchezo..MCA needs like  a million and pork a billion.. just to survive

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Re: Gideon-Jimmy-Kalonzo coalition
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Re: Gideon-Jimmy-Kalonzo coalition
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2022, 08:48:24 AM »
Gideon warn Wanjigi not deliver Kalonzo to Ruto

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Re: Gideon-Jimmy-Kalonzo coalition
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2022, 07:34:43 PM »