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Re: Kenyan obssession with fancy things: A new world class metropolis
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2014, 03:19:28 PM »
Kenyan negro likes fancy things. Outstanding lack of priorities. Konza city hasn't a milli pip of progress since inception and now this.

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Re: Kenyan obssession with fancy things: A new world class metropolis
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2014, 03:46:28 PM »
...yet another Lego City
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Kenyan obssession with fancy things: A new world class metropolis
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2014, 04:05:06 PM »
Lego city indeed. Gov should concentrate on providing infrastructure and gov services....and the city will grow organically. They didn't have to plan for a city to develop in Upper hill and Westland. It happens organically.

In the meantime let gov concentrate on current trashpolis named Nairobi City.....in other areas..it just need to provide roads, water, electricity, schools, hospitals and the rest will be taken care by private sector and individuals.

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Re: Kenyan obssession with fancy things: A new world class metropolis
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2014, 04:11:01 PM »
Lego city :) That's a new one. But calling it lego is even giving it too much credit. It seems the government has a better bet at investing in manufacturing lego instead. They already have several working prototypes.


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Re: Kenyan obssession with fancy things: A new world class metropolis
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2014, 05:34:34 PM »
RVT

Your son / daughter can build one as you watch. Its practical make believe.


http://www.lego.com/en-us/city/panorama/great-vehicles

Lego city :) That's a new one. But calling it lego is even giving it too much credit. It seems the government has a better bet at investing in manufacturing lego instead. They already have several working prototypes.
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Kenyan obssession with fancy things: A new world class metropolis
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2014, 05:37:52 PM »
What you outline below are the standard steps to killing a slum. The process never fails. You apply it to Kibera, Mathare, Kawangware and it is faster than waving a magic wand! The catch is to maintain the infrastructure even if it means using armed forces. Otherwise you still end up with Rio, where public utilities are sub let by gangs.


Lego city indeed. Gov should concentrate on providing infrastructure and gov services....and the city will grow organically. They didn't have to plan for a city to develop in Upper hill and Westland. It happens organically.

In the meantime let gov concentrate on current trashpolis named Nairobi City.....in other areas..it just need to provide roads, water, electricity, schools, hospitals and the rest will be taken care by private sector and individuals.
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Kenyan obssession with fancy things: A new world class metropolis
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2014, 05:51:40 PM »
I think in the future we need to define what gov service really are. Right now gov all over the world basically can do everything or nothing.

We need to define what gov is expected to do..for instance..gov is expected to build a road...not to be running dukas..or building lego city...in select areas.

This can be done in the constitution as part of the contract btw Gov and the people or codified in law. It easy to hold gov responsible for failing to collect garbage than to have individual approach where a kibera resident sues gov for gov failure to provide food or housing to him.

What you outline below are the standard steps to killing a slum. The process never fails. You apply it to Kibera, Mathare, Kawangware and it is faster than waving a magic wand! The catch is to maintain the infrastructure even if it means using armed forces. Otherwise you still end up with Rio, where public utilities are sub let by gangs.

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Re: Kenyan obssession with fancy things: A new world class metropolis
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2014, 06:11:50 PM »
In an ideal situation, Gov should be like a headman = Nyapara. He should find the highest point at a labor camp and stand on it looking down as the workers do their job. The workers in this case are Private companies, State owned companies with no special privileges, County owned companies, NGOs as we know them, Individuals, etc. The Gov should identify areas it wants interventions and then float tenders and offer incentives. It should fairly select the best offers / bids and supervise the implementation either directly or through a tendered consultancy.

There is no limit. I once had a useless argument with PK over garbage in which I pointed out that nobody needs pay to dispose of garbage but that Counties should get paid for allowing somebody to collect garbage. A few weeks or months later we started seeing contracts "similar to what Omollo suggested.." being signed left right and center. I say the same: We do not need to pay anybody to build a road! They should pay us to allow them to build the road! This is applicable to all manner of infrastructural projects - sewage, drainage, hospitals, name it! I can explain the principle if need be but suffice to say, a well constructed road lasting 100 years can have a meter showing the traffic and attract the same amount from the fuel levy to be paid to the investor. This is easier than operating a toll station.
I think in the future we need to define what gov service really are. Right now gov all over the world basically can do everything or nothing.
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Kenyan obssession with fancy things: A new world class metropolis
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