Raila Does A First -Throws In the Towel -Time To Move On

[Nowayhaha]

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It is likely that today's Court of Appeal ruling is not the end of the conversation and the parties involved will each make their own decisions on how to proceed from the decision that has been delivered today.

But we feel that we have to move on. pic.twitter.com/hMl5pf0vtq

— Raila Odinga (@RailaOdinga) August 20, 2021

[Njuri Ncheke]

Raila simply means sarakasi. Trust him to be back with another antic to keep kenyans entertained. This guy is super gullible its a pity with his vast experience and struggle he has gone to bed with a bhang smoker and alcoholic.

[RV Pundit]

But already he has been ensnared on the next scheme

He will spend next few months negotiating with Gideon and MaDVD and the likes

Only to discover everyone left Uhuru

Just like MaDVD was being taken to Statehouse to see Kibaki by that Prof from Jkuat and was given UDF party - with official and everything _


Btw where is that JKUAT prof who was statehouse controller in last days of kibaki

[RV Pundit]

Prof Nick Wanjohi

That one really worked on maDVD - he was working on something close to uhuru project - complete with a party - UDF or

[Wa Njambi]

Njuri...Bangi na pombe na uchawi an uganga is madness policy. MT Kenya should use this abysmal failure to insist that Uhuru should not be a leader of MK. Ulevi and lack of judgement...his lacks judgement period!

Raila simply means sarakasi. Trust him to be back with another antic to keep kenyans entertained. This guy is super gullible its a pity with his vast experience and struggle he has gone to bed with a bhang smoker and alcoholic.

[Fairandbalanced]

[RV Pundit]

So you woke up now after 20yrs of Kikuyu presidency - and a further 15yrs in 70s. Let do this. Ruto do 10. it become 35 versus 35. Then we can have that stupid debate.

The president must win 50 plus 1 - that is a referendum to change katiba threshold - plus 25 percent in half counties.

if you can change katiba - you can deny the president the 50 plus 1  - same threshold. No two tribes can meet that threshold.

End of day - Ruto stand alone - Gideon stand alone - no one will vote for them because they are kalenjin. They get voted on their own merit.

[Wa Njambi]

FB, What happened to you? Something happened that changed your perspective, you and Uhuru. How can we support kimundu cha kujiapisha? Look at what a mess this guy has been since '82?

Uhuru's plan being managed by his brethren aki Murathe is very tribal. You just need to hear Murathe and akina PK say openly in public that..."whenever we (Luos and Gikuyu) come together, we win". How Fkin tribal is that statement...aren't you disgusted by that, especially when he puts you and I in that statement...who the f is "We". Uhuru should be talking of other factors that unit for purpose without ethnic consideration. Hustler them is a genius idea because it defies ethnic parameters and other factors such as age or religion or gender.

[RV Pundit]

This was probably true in the 60s when Luos were 15 percent and Kikuyu 25 percent, and Luo-Kikuyu were the only enlighten tribes. Now luos are 10 percent almost and Kikuyu 17 percent. About just a quarter of the population. You need more to go past 50 percent.

That someone can try to use such an argument now is tragic. it like you want to start minus 75 of the country. If you can buy Kikuyus maybe start from 80 percent against you.

And most importantly some things are best unsaid. Even when Ruto-Uhuru were doing their deal - they would be found dead saying its a two tribe affair.

.."whenever we (Luos and Gikuyu) come together, we win". How Fkin tribal is that statement...aren't you disgusted by that, especially when he puts you and I in that statement...who the f is "We". Uhuru should be talking of other factors that unit for purpose without ethnic consideration. Hustler them is a genius idea because it defies ethnic parameters and other factors such as age or religion or gender.

[Fairandbalanced]

[RV Pundit]

You dont build a bridge over Kondele and Kibra - and destroy a huge bridge btw a million kikuyu immigrants and 7 million Kalenjin in rift valley. That is crazy. And Uhuru has been found to be crazy.

If Raila and his kondele boys were a threat to peace - wait until Kalenjin warriors start. Then you will know what civil war is. If Ruto was to swear himself - si kenya imeisha.

This what the average Kikuyu on the street can clearly see. You're opening a almost 500km warfront - ostensibly to heal Kibra and Kondele riots. How crazy can one be?

If kalenjin decide to secede - then kenya is KAPUT. DONE.

[Nowayhaha]

FNB and that is exactly the elephant in the room . Ruto refusing to concede ehen he loses is the problem. If he had conceded in 2007 there would never have been P.E.V
If he had conceded and not sworn himself  in post  2017 elections there would never have been cessation talks , there would never have been handshake nor BBI.
As you can see yesterday he conceded and life goes on. Imagine if he didnt , we would now be  waging a war with judiciary on the need to overhaul it . We saw that in 2016 with IEBC after the OKOA Kenya failure.
In democracy its a vital value to concede , You saw The same happened with Trump and the results were similar
Next year Raila will be beaten hands down and he should be ready to concede. Period.

[Fairandbalanced]

How long can we continue to placate 7m Kalenjins so they do not kill Kikuyus or finish the other 43m Kenyans? If you are telling me that we have to vote for a Kalenjin even if they are a piece of shit or else there is civil war, then Kenyans have to come to a point where they call out this bullshit or call their bluff.

[Gikomba_Hawker]

All presidential candidates need to be asked whether if they get elected and there's a repeat of post-election violence, will they ensure that the government works very closely with the International Criminal Court to make sure the culprits face justice? If a candidate does not make this assurance, know that the country will be better off if he is not elected.

How long can we continue to placate 7m Kalenjins so they do not kill Kikuyus or finish the other 43m Kenyans? If you are telling me that we have to vote for a Kalenjin even if they are a piece of shit or else there is civil war, then Kenyans have to come to a point where they call out this bullshit or call their bluff.

[RV Pundit]

It's Uhuru who lied to Kalenjin nation; So it's his responsibility to manage any fallout so it doesn't spill out to the streets; Once you adopt a leopard cub; be prepared to be bitten once it grows big.  Sio paka.

But try to goad a war in Afgan or in the mountains of Tigray's is not wise. There are people who are just good in such situations. Don't provoke it,.

Uhuru has to manage his fallout with Ruto very very careful.

I wish you could say the same in Nakuru....but you're in diaspora. You're playing games with a million people life and properties. Plus rest of us in who will get the retaliatory attacks.

How long can we continue to placate 7m Kalenjins so they do not kill Kikuyus or finish the other 43m Kenyans? If you are telling me that we have to vote for a Kalenjin even if they are a piece of shit or else there is civil war, then Kenyans have to come to a point where they call out this bullshit or call their bluff.

[RV Pundit]

ICC cannot prevent war. Please send it to Ethiopia. ICC will come as the aftermath. The assurance we need is that Uhuru will manage his transition with the wisdom of Moi in 2002. Moi's side lost and he had the courage to respect that.

If Uhuru stops interfering in politics using police/cid/etc - and if IEBC does a clean job - the losers will go home - satisfied they have lost - and will aim for 2027.

But if they feel - that they lost unfairly - the judiciary doesn't do it job - then what assurance will they have that 2027 or 2032 will be any different.

Raila's weapon was Kondele youths. Ruto's weapon is Kalenjin warriors. Be aware of the different armoury and capabilities.

And that is how you dismember a country.

Uhuru job should be simple - stop the nonsense about this or that will not become pork (that is a war declaration) - tell the police to stay the hell out of politics - let IEBC conduct election - and things will be very SMOOTH.

All presidential candidates need to be asked whether if they get elected and there's a repeat of post-election violence, will they ensure that the government works very closely with the International Criminal Court to make sure the culprits face justice? If a candidate does not make this assurance, know that the country will be better off if he is not elected.

[Gikomba_Hawker]

Kenyans are not bound by any dubious deal done by Uhuru and Ruto to protect themselves from the ICC. That is madness. Many of us NEVER supported Uhuruto. You now want us to be bound by them? Get real!

If there is politically instigated violence those responsible should face justice, no matter who it is. What happened to Bashir should be an example.

Kenya is a free nation. The country should be governed by the rule of law, not shady deals done by self-seeking politicians.

It's Uhuru who lied to Kalenjin nation; So it's his responsibility to manage any fallout so it doesn't spill out to the streets; Once you adopt a leopard cub; be prepared to be bitten once it grows big.  Sio paka.

But try to goad a war in Afgan or in the mountains of Tigray's is not wise. There are people who are just good in such situations. Don't provoke it,.

Uhuru has to manage his fallout with Ruto very very careful.

I wish you could say the same in Nakuru....but you're in diaspora. You're playing games with a million people life and properties. Plus rest of us in who will get the retaliatory attacks.

How long can we continue to placate 7m Kalenjins so they do not kill Kikuyus or finish the other 43m Kenyans? If you are telling me that we have to vote for a Kalenjin even if they are a piece of shit or else there is civil war, then Kenyans have to come to a point where they call out this bullshit or call their bluff.

[Nowayhaha]

BOMAS 3 Loading !!!

— Paul Mwangi (@PaulMMwangi) August 21, 2021