?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5EtweetMajor (RTD) John Seii who was a member of the BBI task-force has distanced himself from the BBI report. Says they were duped into signing some of the contents in the report. Do you believe him?
— Ahmed Mohamed ((ASMALi)) (@Asmali77) November 6, 2020
Seii is lone ranger- 1 out of 20 Haji wazee - probably appointed by Mobutu. He is worse than Sonko.. he didn't read the draft because Raila was present :)
I told you pastoralists will split - Lonyangapuo has dumped Mobutu and is leading BBI in North Rift with Poghisio - Pokots are united. Western is also overwhelmingly BBI including poor Weta who long lost control of FordK.
Pundit
Kalenjins are TOTALLY Isolate. You will kiss live wire this time
Gachagua the former DO who shaved you in Githunguri will be Interior Ministry.
Seii is an idiot. Kales are poisonous
Surely when BBI was all over - Nobody knew about Maraga parliamentary dissolution dictum - therefore for BBI to propose some solution - post-facto - clearly indicate it is a doctored nonsense that is designed to fail.
Seei is the husband of Mrs Tabitha Seii - one of the few iron ladies in kenya - who was supporting DP in the era nobody could - in Keiyo South - against Biwott.
That took alot of cojones. Major Seei got fired from Kenya Army thanks to Tabitha Seei.
I know Seei the son who is muscician and I have seen the fireband daughter in civil society - Jerotich Seeis
https://twitter.com/JerotichSeii?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Seeis are folks with high integrity - especially the mother - who like my father braced a lot to support KANU in era when were were like Luos - where supporting anything against Moi was almost like a death warrant.
The daughter has taken her mother political gene.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-11-06-seii-is-rutos-attack-dog-raila-uhuru-allies-respond/Seii is an idiot. Kales are poisonous
There ought to be as many amendments to the constitution as possible and as necessary. If BBI does not work then another group of people should organize another amendment to the BBI. What is important is that there is a well established process for amending the constitution.
For a lawyer that is crazy - what purpose of a constitution. A constitution should be general framework. A solid framework. The statutory laws should be changed to fit the circumstances - but not the constitution. We want a document that can live for 100yrs.
Otherwise as you become desperate like Raila you're returning us back again to era where constitution was changed to satisfy short term interest in the end it became a mongrel.
Many of issues people have can be fixed with goodwill and without laws. You don't need constitution to co-opt members of opposition if that is what short term political reality demand. That can be done by parliament.
You don't need constitution for all the BBI nonsense - because you can for example start ward fund like CDF without touching constitution, devolve more funds without touching constitution, meet 2/3 gender rule without touching the constitution, name it. You don't need constitution to fire IEBC or do you need a constitutional change in many of Raila's BBI nonsense.
You don't need constitution to fight corruption, to get police to work, and the judiciary to function.
BBI therefore is just NONSENSE on steroid...designed by Uhuru as diversionary talk shop and swallowed hook, line and sinker by IDIOTS.
2010 constitution is a product of a long struggle and we should not amend unless absolutely necessary. Actually we SHOULD NEVER ammend it except to really improve it's framework by removing some of badly written sections...that appears to codify certain aspect. They are few such areas...otherwise 90% of the document is good.There ought to be as many amendments to the constitution as possible and as necessary. If BBI does not work then another group of people should organize another amendment to the BBI. What is important is that there is a well established process for amending the constitution.
Pundit kweli - first you insisted that Maraga advisory is SCORK advisory that cannot be questioned. Reality soon struck. Now despite the 3judge panel yet to conclude you are still telling us Parliament is illegal.
Scratch that - when Aukot had a doc written in his bedroom you called it legitimate. Now the most inclusive BBI process you insist is illegitimate. Because it's budget was not approved by Parliament. Who funded Aukot? The most laughable argument I have seen from you is that the constitution cannot be amended - Ndii moronic argument.
I mean I don't agree with some things but reality cannot cease because I disagree. BBI is Raila 2022 Manifesto - I agree with that part - but that does not make it illegal.
BBI legitimate issues
-2/3 gender conundrum - 2 elections and 20 plenary votes failed leading to Maraga advisory
-35% devolution - it was 35% before Naivasha. Of course no day GoK will volunteer more funds to counties without this threshold. Anchoring it in constitution is important step that guarantee gradual transition
-Hybrid system cannot be done by law... including opposition leader and shadow cabinet
The other small carrots of youth commission, tax holidays, HELB, WDF are sweeteners to make it popular obviously.
BBI is Bomas 2005 and CoE 2010 before they were corrupted by MPs in Kilifi and Naivasha. Gender, 35%, hybrid were all in original docs and that is what is being addressed. This correction of past ukora after the most comprehensive and inclusive processes in the past are the real basis for BBI legitimacy.For a lawyer that is crazy - what purpose of a constitution. A constitution should be general framework. A solid framework. The statutory laws should be changed to fit the circumstances - but not the constitution. We want a document that can live for 100yrs.
Otherwise as you become desperate like Raila you're returning us back again to era where constitution was changed to satisfy short term interest in the end it became a mongrel.
Many of issues people have can be fixed with goodwill and without laws. You don't need constitution to co-opt members of opposition if that is what short term political reality demand. That can be done by parliament.
You don't need constitution for all the BBI nonsense - because you can for example start ward fund like CDF without touching constitution, devolve more funds without touching constitution, meet 2/3 gender rule without touching the constitution, name it. You don't need constitution to fire IEBC or do you need a constitutional change in many of Raila's BBI nonsense.
You don't need constitution to fight corruption, to get police to work, and the judiciary to function.
BBI therefore is just NONSENSE on steroid...designed by Uhuru as diversionary talk shop and swallowed hook, line and sinker by IDIOTS.
2010 constitution is a product of a long struggle and we should not amend unless absolutely necessary. Actually we SHOULD NEVER ammend it except to really improve it's framework by removing some of badly written sections...that appears to codify certain aspect. They are few such areas...otherwise 90% of the document is good.There ought to be as many amendments to the constitution as possible and as necessary. If BBI does not work then another group of people should organize another amendment to the BBI. What is important is that there is a well established process for amending the constitution.
35% devolution and hybrid system - a glorified Duale/Matiangi - don't need any change of any law. Those are administrative actions by Parliament Budget Office - and by Executive PORK.
Secondly Gender Bill - do more research.
Simple google
In February 2014, the Hon. Attorney General set up a working group[6] on the implementation of the Supreme Court Ruling on the attainment of the two-thirds gender principle to develop a framework for the realization of the two-thirds principle before the deadline set by the Supreme Court. The working group received several proposals and recommendations from different stakeholders, institutions and individuals and came up with one proposal which it considered most viable to help attain the two-thirds gender principle as lifting the provisions of article 177 (b) and (c) to articles 97 and 98 of the Constitution of Kenya 2010.
For effective implementation of the formula, the Working Group proposed the following legislative amendments to be undertaken so as to actualize realization of implementation of the two-thirds gender principle as follows:
Amendment of the Political Parties Act
Amendment of the Elections Act.
Amendment of the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission Act
Amendment of the National Gender and Equality Commission Act
Amendment of the County Governments Act
NOWHERE is the amendment of constitution REQUIRED. - Besides we are at 20% - just need a push to 33% - so if parliament and political parties showed more goodwill - and commitment - it can be done.
What is Kamanda doing as nominated Mp for example? or Ole Sankonk? Or the Albino Mwaura. All those positions should be reserved for women - both able and disabled.BBI legitimate issues
-2/3 gender conundrum - 2 elections and 20 plenary votes failed leading to Maraga advisory
-35% devolution - it was 35% before Naivasha. Of course no day GoK will volunteer more funds to counties without this threshold. Anchoring it in constitution is important step that guarantee gradual transition
-Hybrid system cannot be done by law... including opposition leader and shadow cabinet
The other small carrots of youth commission, tax holidays, HELB, WDF are sweeteners to make it popular obviously.
BBI is Bomas 2005 and CoE 2010 before they were corrupted by MPs in Kilifi and Naivasha. Gender, 35%, hybrid were all in original docs and that is what is being addressed. This correction of past ukora after the most comprehensive and inclusive processes in the past are the real basis for BBI legitimacy.For a lawyer that is crazy - what purpose of a constitution. A constitution should be general framework. A solid framework. The statutory laws should be changed to fit the circumstances - but not the constitution. We want a document that can live for 100yrs.
Otherwise as you become desperate like Raila you're returning us back again to era where constitution was changed to satisfy short term interest in the end it became a mongrel.
Many of issues people have can be fixed with goodwill and without laws. You don't need constitution to co-opt members of opposition if that is what short term political reality demand. That can be done by parliament.
You don't need constitution for all the BBI nonsense - because you can for example start ward fund like CDF without touching constitution, devolve more funds without touching constitution, meet 2/3 gender rule without touching the constitution, name it. You don't need constitution to fire IEBC or do you need a constitutional change in many of Raila's BBI nonsense.
You don't need constitution to fight corruption, to get police to work, and the judiciary to function.
BBI therefore is just NONSENSE on steroid...designed by Uhuru as diversionary talk shop and swallowed hook, line and sinker by IDIOTS.
2010 constitution is a product of a long struggle and we should not amend unless absolutely necessary. Actually we SHOULD NEVER ammend it except to really improve it's framework by removing some of badly written sections...that appears to codify certain aspect. They are few such areas...otherwise 90% of the document is good.There ought to be as many amendments to the constitution as possible and as necessary. If BBI does not work then another group of people should organize another amendment to the BBI. What is important is that there is a well established process for amending the constitution.
Maraga advisory cannot be questioned - the law required him to do exactly what he did. Court cases are buying time for parliament so they get to 2022 - and render Maraga decision nugatory.
Ndii argument is on BASIC STRUCTURE of the constitution. Our constitution already define section that is protected from ammendment except through a referenda. Ndii argument is to extend that protection to key sections for example Bill of Rights - System of Gov - so you don't end up with kiraka of constitution like we had previously
It's OS and the upper layers. You are allowed to installed anything but don't mess with kernel.
REALITY vs ideals.
-Devolution- BBI says 35% of CURRENT budget figures verified by auditor general. Not present 15% of 5 years old figures. The real import is that going above 15% today is totally at the whim of PORK. Only anchoring in katiba makes it progressively federal. Transition will take years just like gender has taken 10 years already.
Pundit if you really want federalism I don't get how you want to leave devolution at the mercy of PORK. Power concede nothing.
-Gender of course we know MPs have voted 10X or more - probably 20X - and 2 general elections with no solution in sight. In 2012 MPs rejected 1/3 women party primaries as proposed by Charles Nyachae CIC. Only proper formula in katiba can resolve it which need referendum. Following Maraga advisory to dissolve parliament would be the most irresponsible thing a PORK ever did. You should be greatful Uhuru is mature and sober unlike the mercurial Maraga and childish folks like Nelson Havi.
Note I agree with your recollections of the 10 years debate. But reality is it failed- you cannot force MPs to pass 2/3, or force 1/3 women in primaries- or force Kenyans to vote 1/3 women. These were already tried and FAILED for 10 years. Now we have advisory and you want to roll the dice with acts of parliament? How do you guarantee the outcome? BBI guarantees the outcome.
-Hybrid changes the role of Parliament to join Executive- which expressly requires referendum. Ministers will be MPs and that explicit change of their role from present pure presidential. BBI is French model while 2010 is US - such clear change cannot be done by MPs.
Are you suggesting you can change the law and appoint an MP Treasury CS today? Is Raila in parliament? You have committees chaired by Jubilee MPs oversighting Jubilee CS's - no shadow cabinet.35% devolution and hybrid system - a glorified Duale/Matiangi - don't need any change of any law. Those are administrative actions by Parliament Budget Office - and by Executive PORK.
Secondly Gender Bill - do more research.
Simple google
In February 2014, the Hon. Attorney General set up a working group[6] on the implementation of the Supreme Court Ruling on the attainment of the two-thirds gender principle to develop a framework for the realization of the two-thirds principle before the deadline set by the Supreme Court. The working group received several proposals and recommendations from different stakeholders, institutions and individuals and came up with one proposal which it considered most viable to help attain the two-thirds gender principle as lifting the provisions of article 177 (b) and (c) to articles 97 and 98 of the Constitution of Kenya 2010.
For effective implementation of the formula, the Working Group proposed the following legislative amendments to be undertaken so as to actualize realization of implementation of the two-thirds gender principle as follows:
Amendment of the Political Parties Act
Amendment of the Elections Act.
Amendment of the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission Act
Amendment of the National Gender and Equality Commission Act
Amendment of the County Governments Act
NOWHERE is the amendment of constitution REQUIRED. - Besides we are at 20% - just need a push to 33% - so if parliament and political parties showed more goodwill - and commitment - it can be done.
What is Kamanda doing as nominated Mp for example? or Ole Sankonk? Or the Albino Mwaura. All those positions should be reserved for women - both able and disabled.BBI legitimate issues
-2/3 gender conundrum - 2 elections and 20 plenary votes failed leading to Maraga advisory
-35% devolution - it was 35% before Naivasha. Of course no day GoK will volunteer more funds to counties without this threshold. Anchoring it in constitution is important step that guarantee gradual transition
-Hybrid system cannot be done by law... including opposition leader and shadow cabinet
The other small carrots of youth commission, tax holidays, HELB, WDF are sweeteners to make it popular obviously.
BBI is Bomas 2005 and CoE 2010 before they were corrupted by MPs in Kilifi and Naivasha. Gender, 35%, hybrid were all in original docs and that is what is being addressed. This correction of past ukora after the most comprehensive and inclusive processes in the past are the real basis for BBI legitimacy.For a lawyer that is crazy - what purpose of a constitution. A constitution should be general framework. A solid framework. The statutory laws should be changed to fit the circumstances - but not the constitution. We want a document that can live for 100yrs.
Otherwise as you become desperate like Raila you're returning us back again to era where constitution was changed to satisfy short term interest in the end it became a mongrel.
Many of issues people have can be fixed with goodwill and without laws. You don't need constitution to co-opt members of opposition if that is what short term political reality demand. That can be done by parliament.
You don't need constitution for all the BBI nonsense - because you can for example start ward fund like CDF without touching constitution, devolve more funds without touching constitution, meet 2/3 gender rule without touching the constitution, name it. You don't need constitution to fire IEBC or do you need a constitutional change in many of Raila's BBI nonsense.
You don't need constitution to fight corruption, to get police to work, and the judiciary to function.
BBI therefore is just NONSENSE on steroid...designed by Uhuru as diversionary talk shop and swallowed hook, line and sinker by IDIOTS.
2010 constitution is a product of a long struggle and we should not amend unless absolutely necessary. Actually we SHOULD NEVER ammend it except to really improve it's framework by removing some of badly written sections...that appears to codify certain aspect. They are few such areas...otherwise 90% of the document is good.There ought to be as many amendments to the constitution as possible and as necessary. If BBI does not work then another group of people should organize another amendment to the BBI. What is important is that there is a well established process for amending the constitution.
Maraga advisory cannot be questioned - the law required him to do exactly what he did. Court cases are buying time for parliament so they get to 2022 - and render Maraga decision nugatory.
Parliament is legal and constitutional unless SCORK says otherwise. SCORK will ask themselves hard questions like PORK has done - does election guarantee 2/3? Of course not - and in that case AG will present BBI as better solution in the works. That's a more likely outcome than imagining SCORK will anull parliament - they have a responsibility beyond the plain letter of the law.
Even here predictably Trump lawyer go all the way to SCOTUS. Ala 2000 Al Gore. Assume they have evidence of dead voters and such ukora as I suspect- will SCOTUS nullify the Biden victory? My bet is nope - they will weigh pros and cons of such action for posterity. It better to have few angry Trump, Guilliani and Robina :) - than tarnish the US image and cause chaos. Instead the judges will retreat to chamber and order a raft of legal corrections for future elections- probably order prosecution of a few corrupt Kivuitus. Judges are not bound by the letter of the law - the spirit evolves over the years.Ndii argument is on BASIC STRUCTURE of the constitution. Our constitution already define section that is protected from ammendment except through a referenda. Ndii argument is to extend that protection to key sections for example Bill of Rights - System of Gov - so you don't end up with kiraka of constitution like we had previously
It's OS and the upper layers. You are allowed to installed anything but don't mess with kernel.
Bill of Rights and system of gov are already protected. This is why you need BBI referendum to alter pure presidential to hybrid. Are you arguing against yourself? Of course no single clause can be sacrosanct - the people own the constitution. Already requiring 1M signatures, 24 counties, referendum- ensure nobodies like Aukot and Omtata cannot alter the katiba.
BBI with Uhuru and Raila backing is like 80% of Kenyans represented and they still get to vote in referendum. Kenyans want Bomas 2005 and CoE 2010 hybrid system - not present Kilifi and Naivasha pure presidential ukora.
First I am not naive like you and Raila to believe BBI is designed for anything except dustbin. Uhuru clearly understand why it nearly impossible to devolve more than we currently do - without devolving more functions. If this 35% will force gov to cede some functions - like KERRA/KURA - some aspect of education - then I am all for that. It is naive though to expect national gov to function of 65% of the budget when it still does of key functions - education and security - takes nearly half the budget.
2nd don't a little fool. The constitution stick on parliament should be made to work. If Uhuru demanded that MPS run to Dandora dump site and pick up the gender bill or they will be disbanded they will do that. But to play games is uncostitutional. The whole idea of that constitutional threat was to force MPs to do exactly that.
You don't ammend the katiba..when Katiba has the solution. If the stupid frivolous court case challenging Maraga decision is thrown out - and I expect soon - the ball will be on Uhuru. He can play games or get proper legacy like Maraga. All he need is to demand MPs pass the law - and they will.
On hybrid nonsense - that is where you need to read Ndii submission and basic constitutionalism.
Our entire constitution has a framework. Once you mess with presidential system - then you have to completely overhaul it. You cannot create a patchwork.
If there are imperative to co-opt bitter losers like Raila - we don't need a permanent solution for that - Uhuru should do a gentleman - prime minister kinda of thing - and maybe when Ruto comes in - and wins by 85% - he can discard such - and rule as PORK with wide mandate and legitimacy.
Bottomline- No Need for BBI. No need to change the constitution. And it won't happen anyway. This constitution foresaw this and has guarded itself.
Raila is wasting time.
But if he wants to use it as 2022 launchpad - go for it :) :)
It guaranteed to fail - because Ruto will be talking bread and butter issues - jobs, manufacturing, roads, electricity -
And the broken record since 1960s will be talking the same same nonsense - IEBC, BBI, referendum, prime minister, reforms, change.
Your punditry start and end with tribal pie charts. Without such clear high school math puzzle - of excel formulas - hard thinking is beyond you. Devolution is the way to go and Uhuru-Raila will be remembered for eons over it. Mobutu will be remembered for vehemently rejecting and opposing all reforms - and losing big. There is always space in history for such black sheep - 6-star General Robert E. Lee is still studied at Westpoint military academy. He is on monuments in Deep South for killing millions to sustain slavery by hook & crook. Black-lives-matter are still trying to uproot Gen Lee statues to-date. Mobutu and Pundit are equally a great balance to the reform debate - they will ensure pro-BBI team rope in most folks to win. In the end the majority opinion in Bomas and CoE will be restored.
You're just out of your depth. You think MOAS is excel macros - how many macros do you need to manage excel sheet of 47 columns; None.Your punditry start and end with tribal pie charts. Without such clear high school math puzzle - of excel formulas - hard thinking is beyond you. Devolution is the way to go and Uhuru-Raila will be remembered for eons over it. Mobutu will be remembered for vehemently rejecting and opposing all reforms - and losing big. There is always space in history for such black sheep - 6-star General Robert E. Lee is still studied at Westpoint military academy. He is on monuments in Deep South for killing millions to sustain slavery by hook & crook. Black-lives-matter are still trying to uproot Gen Lee statues to-date. Mobutu and Pundit are equally a great balance to the reform debate - they will ensure pro-BBI team rope in most folks to win. In the end the majority opinion in Bomas and CoE will be restored.
You paste KNBS numbers - read Tom Wolf, Ndii and Mutahi Ngunyi columns - bum! you have MOAS 2022. Mobutu 65% :) Few things change - BBI - and you discard everything and claim tribe is dead. Anyway you may need to run BBI MOAS soon as Yes vs No take shape.
You're a damn bloody fool. They read me. I have been doing MOAS since 2005 when Ndii was working for Narc.
Yes you can get rough MOAS by following tribes - but for my level of precision - you need a lot more.You paste KNBS numbers - read Tom Wolf, Ndii and Mutahi Ngunyi columns - bum! you have MOAS 2022. Mobutu 65% :) Few things change - BBI - and you discard everything and claim tribe is dead. Anyway you may need to run BBI MOAS soon as Yes vs No take shape.
9.5% off-target aggregate is biggest margin of error. Even US openly biased polls are merely wrong by 5 points. 2016 and 2020.
Why do you think Mutahi Ngunyi or Tom Wolf are not following your lead on BBI?
Which lead?Why do you think Mutahi Ngunyi or Tom Wolf are not following your lead on BBI?
My friend I got it dot on aggregrate - on some counties is where I got some of them badly off - like Nyamira and West Pokot - every election cycle - I try to minimize such. I use to have problems with Western Kenya - Luhyas - but as you can see - that now is sorted.
It appears Gusii, Ukambani, Isiolo-Marsabit - and as always Pokots -are very tricky - also the coast.
As for you - you're an idiot.
Yes MOAS are actually great. I just think they are simple tribal data analysis - excel stuff - not the holy grail of politics. Outside that you are clueless.
Take for instance legal stuff :-
Uhuruto 2017 will be upheld by SCORK - flop
Jomo portrait on KSh is unconstitutional - flop
Governor can't be suspended - flop
BBI is illegal - flop
Maraga advisory can't be blocked - flop
See? your expertise start and end with excel :)My friend I got it dot on aggregrate - on some counties is where I got some of them badly off - like Nyamira and West Pokot - every election cycle - I try to minimize such. I use to have problems with Western Kenya - Luhyas - but as you can see - that now is sorted.
It appears Gusii, Ukambani, Isiolo-Marsabit - and as always Pokots -are very tricky - also the coast.
As for you - you're an idiot.
"They are playing Raila" And hustler wave 65%.