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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on January 20, 2018, 12:50:41 PM
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https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2018/01/20/uhuru-to-remain-jubilee-party-leader-even-after-2022-david-murathe_c1700971
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Yeah until a new Gema leader shows up he's the king. Looks like Chinese meritocracy model is the way to go. Kichwa would scream at this.
Murathe also announced that the party has invited a delegation from China to help strengthen its structures.
The delegation, he said, will be led by a member of the central committee of the Communist Party of China which is charged with electing presidential candidates.
He said the delegation will arrive next week and will help turn the party into the strongest in the region.
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It naive to imagine Uhuru will want to leave all that power and influence - and go back to sell stale milk (mursik) in brookside. Like Moi or Odinga - the Kenyatta will milk this until someone forcefully kick them out - it even possible Muhoho kenyatta will soon be thrust forward as a successor to Uhuru - he'll probably ran as Gatundu MP :) in 2022
Yeah until a new Gema leader shows up he's the king. Looks like Chinese meritocracy model is the way to go. Kichwa would scream at this.
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Robina, why would I scream at it. That's a jubilee affair. However, just to opine, by the time Ouru leaves office, jubilee would have disintegrated anyway. It doesn't really matter either way.
Yeah until a new Gema leader shows up he's the king. Looks like Chinese meritocracy model is the way to go. Kichwa would scream at this.
Murathe also announced that the party has invited a delegation from China to help strengthen its structures.
The delegation, he said, will be led by a member of the central committee of the Communist Party of China which is charged with electing presidential candidates.
He said the delegation will arrive next week and will help turn the party into the strongest in the region.
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THE KENYATTA SUCCESSION
*****[Long post alert]
Via Wanyeki Kago.
There are striking similarities between William Ruto and Daniel Moi. Both have huge following from their Rift Valley, mainly Kalenjin base. They are politically charismatic and generous to a fault. Just like Moi before him, William Ruto is an indefatigable politician who traverses the country, activating contacts and loyalists. This is of course backed up by his generosity and understanding of pork barrel kind of politics.
During his eleven years as VP Arap Moi established his political network across the country and beyond. Old Jomo could hardly travel out of the country. Even in the country, he could divide his time between Nakuru, Gatundu and Mombasa where he received delegations from across the country. Moi by default was always at hand to represent him in the districts establishing a formidable network of loyalists and contacts which became handy to do his political bidding when Kenyatta died. Regionally and internationally Moi was the face of Kenya, by representing Old Jomo in regional and international meetings. He easily and comfortably fit into the exclusive President's Club post 1978.
Those who begrudge Ruto for being everywhere do not understand politics. Unlike Moi, Ruto, being a consummate politician, by design has to make an imprint in the political landscape that will come in handy come 2022. The anti Ruto crusade in Mt. Kenya region is no different from the one propagated in the 1970s by the Kiambu Mafia and their Ngoroko cohorts. It is all about power games by those with feelings of entitlement to succeed Uhuru Kenyatta. It has nothing to do with community interests. Those standing in every public agora with pronouncements that "we owe no one nothing" are just verbalising personal selfish sentiments.
The ethnic and political matrix in the current multiparty dispensation is very different from the 1970s dominant KANU dispensation. KANU as a dominant party with established grassroots structures played the greatest role in putting Arap Moi and maintaining him in State House for 24 years.
Early last year, after the bungled Jubilee Party primaries, William Ruto is alleged to have personally taken charge of the repeat which went on largely smoothly and with minimum drama. The present political conundrum and disquiet from the loosing titans, who were used to throwing wads of notes around Jubilee House to buy nominations, could be traced here. This past week, it was reported in the press that Jubilee had sacked over 200 members of staff from the Secretariat and the field coordination offices. Voila, the whip should be cracked. For a successful post Uhuru Kenyatta onslaught in 2022 Ruto must purge the political brokers and merchants from Jubilee House and put loyalists who should are committed to his cause. Some in the former secretariat could hardly hide their disdain for Ruto after he scuttled their money minting ventures. Don't be surprised to see some working for his opponents.
As for the relations between Rift Valley and Mt. Kenya, Ruto is the undisputed fulcrum. There is nothing that the Beringo ye Keti polo playing, twanging Githeri Man possesses beyond a famous surname. And unlike his father is not known for generosity. When push comes to shove, the Hustler is in a league of his own.
Why is Ruto unconcerned about the noisy political, wild berries eating, weaver birds (mîthû) from Mt. Kenya? Because he knows what he stands for. Mt. Kenya needs him more than the other way around. I don't suppose as a wily political fox, he has ever burnt bridges with his former ODM networks and allies. Look at his forays into Western Kenya and Coast. The guy can bargain with his huge Rift Valley constituency and mobilise the rest of Kenya to take him straight to State House. There no permanent friend or enemies in politics, just permanent interests. Someone show me the grave where 41 Against 1 was buried. And don't remind me of Ruto's ICC scare. The 41-1 need not be militant but politically strategic.
Mtaachwa hapo kwa mataa with your arrogance, foolishness and hubris, shouting tyranny of numbers as if the tyranny is exclusive to Mt. Kenya. Politics should all be about interests. 2022 is not exclusive. And you need not have your ethnic kingpin at the helm.
And on a lighter factual note, should Ruto win 2022 and 2027, Kenya shall be celebrating 69 years of independence in 2032 with the Kikuyu beating the Kalenjin b one year at the helm, 35:34. This is not good for a multi-ethnic country. I urge my kinsmen to embrace a political reality where none of their own is neither President nor Deputy President. Quit giving Ruto conditions about his choice of running mate. Whatcommunity utilitarian value do you assign to thuggish characters like Mwangi wa Irua who are looting their counties blind by allegedly sponsoring boys' circumcision at 70k per head? Do your boys undergo a male member transplant? Just as the Nairobi and Kiambu voters are lately realising, you are all a robotic lot of political cretins beyond any earthly redemption!
Ruto can pick Matiang'i or Josephat Nanok or even Rachel for all I care
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Stupid analogy. Even if Ruto and Moi were identical twins, they live in two completely different times and that alone is enough difference to make the expectation of the same outcome ridiculous to say the least.
Facepuke still
THE KENYATTA SUCCESSION
*****[Long post alert]
Via Wanyeki Kago.
There are striking similarities between William Ruto and Daniel Moi. Both have huge following from their Rift Valley, mainly Kalenjin base. They are politically charismatic and generous to a fault. Just like Moi before him, William Ruto is an indefatigable politician who traverses the country, activating contacts and loyalists. This is of course backed up by his generosity and understanding of pork barrel kind of politics.
During his eleven years as VP Arap Moi established his political network across the country and beyond. Old Jomo could hardly travel out of the country. Even in the country, he could divide his time between Nakuru, Gatundu and Mombasa where he received delegations from across the country. Moi by default was always at hand to represent him in the districts establishing a formidable network of loyalists and contacts which became handy to do his political bidding when Kenyatta died. Regionally and internationally Moi was the face of Kenya, by representing Old Jomo in regional and international meetings. He easily and comfortably fit into the exclusive President's Club post 1978.
Those who begrudge Ruto for being everywhere do not understand politics. Unlike Moi, Ruto, being a consummate politician, by design has to make an imprint in the political landscape that will come in handy come 2022. The anti Ruto crusade in Mt. Kenya region is no different from the one propagated in the 1970s by the Kiambu Mafia and their Ngoroko cohorts. It is all about power games by those with feelings of entitlement to succeed Uhuru Kenyatta. It has nothing to do with community interests. Those standing in every public agora with pronouncements that "we owe no one nothing" are just verbalising personal selfish sentiments.
The ethnic and political matrix in the current multiparty dispensation is very different from the 1970s dominant KANU dispensation. KANU as a dominant party with established grassroots structures played the greatest role in putting Arap Moi and maintaining him in State House for 24 years.
Early last year, after the bungled Jubilee Party primaries, William Ruto is alleged to have personally taken charge of the repeat which went on largely smoothly and with minimum drama. The present political conundrum and disquiet from the loosing titans, who were used to throwing wads of notes around Jubilee House to buy nominations, could be traced here. This past week, it was reported in the press that Jubilee had sacked over 200 members of staff from the Secretariat and the field coordination offices. Voila, the whip should be cracked. For a successful post Uhuru Kenyatta onslaught in 2022 Ruto must purge the political brokers and merchants from Jubilee House and put loyalists who should are committed to his cause. Some in the former secretariat could hardly hide their disdain for Ruto after he scuttled their money minting ventures. Don't be surprised to see some working for his opponents.
As for the relations between Rift Valley and Mt. Kenya, Ruto is the undisputed fulcrum. There is nothing that the Beringo ye Keti polo playing, twanging Githeri Man possesses beyond a famous surname. And unlike his father is not known for generosity. When push comes to shove, the Hustler is in a league of his own.
Why is Ruto unconcerned about the noisy political, wild berries eating, weaver birds (mîthû) from Mt. Kenya? Because he knows what he stands for. Mt. Kenya needs him more than the other way around. I don't suppose as a wily political fox, he has ever burnt bridges with his former ODM networks and allies. Look at his forays into Western Kenya and Coast. The guy can bargain with his huge Rift Valley constituency and mobilise the rest of Kenya to take him straight to State House. There no permanent friend or enemies in politics, just permanent interests. Someone show me the grave where 41 Against 1 was buried. And don't remind me of Ruto's ICC scare. The 41-1 need not be militant but politically strategic.
Mtaachwa hapo kwa mataa with your arrogance, foolishness and hubris, shouting tyranny of numbers as if the tyranny is exclusive to Mt. Kenya. Politics should all be about interests. 2022 is not exclusive. And you need not have your ethnic kingpin at the helm.
And on a lighter factual note, should Ruto win 2022 and 2027, Kenya shall be celebrating 69 years of independence in 2032 with the Kikuyu beating the Kalenjin b one year at the helm, 35:34. This is not good for a multi-ethnic country. I urge my kinsmen to embrace a political reality where none of their own is neither President nor Deputy President. Quit giving Ruto conditions about his choice of running mate. Whatcommunity utilitarian value do you assign to thuggish characters like Mwangi wa Irua who are looting their counties blind by allegedly sponsoring boys' circumcision at 70k per head? Do your boys undergo a male member transplant? Just as the Nairobi and Kiambu voters are lately realising, you are all a robotic lot of political cretins beyond any earthly redemption!
Ruto can pick Matiang'i or Josephat Nanok or even Rachel for all I care
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It puzzles me how clueless Gideon pulled a 68% landslide against the Ruto-backed Chelugui. Tugen nationalism?
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He possibly got most votes from pokots - who were supporting KANU - after Jubilee went hard on them.
It puzzles me how clueless Gideon pulled a 68% landslide against the Ruto-backed Chelugui. Tugen nationalism?
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Pundit I told ya Munya should not step down for nobody... look where it got him now. CS EAC and Northern Corridor - basically he controls LAPSETT.
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He is just getting it because Merus are not getting DP - and he was biggest spoiler. Smart move. But let him not imagine he will be welcomed to the party - he is not trusted - and may not be invited to feeding troughs.
Pundit I told ya Munya should not step down for nobody... look where it got him now. CS EAC and Northern Corridor - basically he controls LAPSETT.
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Pundit & Kichwa, seeing we already have Kenyatta 2, Odinga 2 firmly in charge of supra-tribal constituencies, while Mudavadi 2, Wamalwa 2, Moi 2 have nominal influence, I wonder why you think Kenyatta 3 or Ruto 2 is far fetched. They would have a clear headstart and the only big factor is their political competence.
Pundit in your fights with Kichwa over UhuRuto you never give him the perfect analogy. Abyssinia (Ethiopia) had the Menelik and the Selassie dynasties for centuries.
Selassie I (1,2,3), Selassie II(1,2,3): 6 Selassie emperors in total.
Then they had Menelik 1 and Menelik 2