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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: vooke on January 09, 2018, 02:32:40 PM
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....I am not immune to Oprah’s charms, but President Winfrey is a terrible idea. It also underscores the extent to which Trumpism — the kowtowing to celebrity and ratings, the repudiation of experience and expertise — has infected our civic life. The ideal post-Trump politician will, at the very least, be a deeply serious figure with a strong record of public service behind her. It would be a devastating, self-inflicted wound for the Democrats to settle for even benevolent mimicry of Mr. Trump’s hallucinatory circus act....
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/opinion/oprah-2020-president-globes.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region
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Michelle Obama would be a really nice way of rubbing it in on the Trumpistas. Oprah is probably better than Trump, but likely just as incompetent in that office.
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Considering white women abandoned Hillary, a black woman would face both misogyny and racism. Very big hurdles. I am no liberal but do yourselves a favor and pick a smooth, soft-spoken white male candidate.
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Considering white women abandoned Hillary, a black woman would face both misogyny and racism. Very big hurdles. I am no liberal but do yourselves a favor and pick a smooth, soft-spoken white male candidate.
True women abandoned Killary but everyone loves Oprah, negroes,KKK, everyone
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Considering white women abandoned Hillary, a black woman would face both misogyny and racism. Very big hurdles. I am no liberal but do yourselves a favor and pick a smooth, soft-spoken white male candidate.
True women abandoned Killary but everyone loves Oprah, negroes,KKK, everyone
Black people and Hollywood will vote Oprah... the white women will flee. Welcome to the world.
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Trump winning 46% women vote shows women have the decision made by their men or nobody can predict them politically.
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Considering white women abandoned Hillary, a black woman would face both misogyny and racism. Very big hurdles. I am no liberal but do yourselves a favor and pick a smooth, soft-spoken white male candidate.
True women abandoned Killary but everyone loves Oprah, negroes,KKK, everyone
True dat!
Robina, Killary and Oprah cannot be compared. Women have grown up listening to Oprah and loving her every day for decades. Killary was being shoved down women's throat with feminazi finger wagging (How can a woman vote for Trump? There's a special place in hell for any woman who doesnt vote for Hillary.....How often did you hear that bullying from SJWs and some Democrats?) I think Oprah would never do it. She has steadfastly refused it. But if there was anyone ever who could steal Republican women's vote, it sure as hell is the big O.
Windy, Michelle will get Democrats votes only. But why would she be better than Oprah? Neither has any actual experience in public office. Me? If I have a choice btw them, I'm going with Oprah. I feel like I know her better and trust her more.
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Considering white women abandoned Hillary, a black woman would face both misogyny and racism. Very big hurdles. I am no liberal but do yourselves a favor and pick a smooth, soft-spoken white male candidate.
True women abandoned Killary but everyone loves Oprah, negroes,KKK, everyone
Black people and Hollywood will vote Oprah... the white women will flee. Welcome to the world.
Oprahs fanatic fan base is white women though...ya never know!!!
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Considering white women abandoned Hillary, a black woman would face both misogyny and racism. Very big hurdles. I am no liberal but do yourselves a favor and pick a smooth, soft-spoken white male candidate.
True women abandoned Killary but everyone loves Oprah, negroes,KKK, everyone
True dat!
Robina, Killary and Oprah cannot be compared. Women have grown up listening to Oprah and loving her every day for decades. Killary was being shoved down women's throat with feminazi finger wagging (How can a woman vote for Trump? There's a special place in hell for any woman who doesnt vote for Hillary.....How often did you hear that bullying from SJWs and some Democrats?) I think Oprah would never do it. She has steadfastly refused it. But if there was anyone ever who could steal Republican women's vote, it sure as hell is the big O.
Windy, Michelle will get Democrats votes only. But why would she be better than Oprah? Neither has any actual experience in public office. Me? If I have a choice btw them, I'm going with Oprah. I feel like I know her better and trust her more.
Oprah is celebrity and can be umatched in showbiz; she can put on a splash. But Michelle can reach the Obama base, which Hillary just could not excite enough and that was the difference - Trump did not get anything significantly more than Mitt Romney in 2012.
Michelle actually has public service experience outside being Obama's wife. Before Obama emerged in the public sphere, she was the breadwinner. Oprah will be handicapped by the performance of the current occupant who has done no justice to the celebrity image.
The white women will vote Republican until a certain generation dies out. I know people who voted Trump who cannot stand him.
Still, we can celebrate the idea that we can be talking of potential black female Presidents without sounding like we are out of touch. A decade ago this would have been in the realm of fantasy.
https://womenintheworld.com/2015/04/14/an-inside-look-at-michelle-obamas-life-before-the-white-house/ (https://womenintheworld.com/2015/04/14/an-inside-look-at-michelle-obamas-life-before-the-white-house/)
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True dat!
Robina, Killary and Oprah cannot be compared. Women have grown up listening to Oprah and loving her every day for decades. Killary was being shoved down women's throat with feminazi finger wagging (How can a woman vote for Trump? There's a special place in hell for any woman who doesnt vote for Hillary.....How often did you hear that bullying from SJWs and some Democrats?) I think Oprah would never do it. She has steadfastly refused it. But if there was anyone ever who could steal Republican women's vote, it sure as hell is the big O.
Windy, Michelle will get Democrats votes only. But why would she be better than Oprah? Neither has any actual experience in public office. Me? If I have a choice btw them, I'm going with Oprah. I feel like I know her better and trust her more.
I can’t recall the last time I watched Oprah. I’m somewhat averse to celebrity shrinks, but one negro I watched on CNN by the name Van Jones, he was like,’ Oprah is the most beloved carbon-form life on planet earth’. I can’t argue with that. He also mentioned something else; her past is an open book and the most anyone can hold against her past is saying she exaggerated what she has gone through.
So She has some real head start I agree....but another negro at White House four years later? Seems like a stretch
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That's what I mean vooke - politics is little about likability or the Trumps would never make it. Look at the people taking over the world - the vitriolic far right - it's pure bread and butter. Oprah is so loved because she holds pep talks on lifestyle, home-making, fashion, business, etc. As soon as she takes a stand on the issues - taxes, trade, jobs, immigration, climate change, coal, fracking, Iran - the ratings will automatically crumble from 90 to 50%.
That's the start. Then you have race and gender. God help her should a misdemeanor crop up - a past tax evasion - and she's on her way into politics from celebrity.
Her best advantage is Trump. As in 4 years of a Republican presidency. Hillary's real undoing was coming after Obama, a liberal. The pendulum swings Right-Left-R - I wish it was 2024 because then people will be fed up with conservatives. Statistically it's tougher to unseat an incumbent.
I love Oprah too and wish her the best.