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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: vooke on October 20, 2017, 08:45:58 AM
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?STATEMENT ?ON THE IEBC, THE US AND THE UK AND THE SUPREME COURT
So it’s come down to this:
The US and the UK have not spoken? since the astonishing confession By IEBC chairman Webukati that he cannot guarantee? ?that the election slated for 26 October will be free and fair, that his own staff do not listen to him, and that he cannot see how we can hold an election ?"in which six million Kenyans who voted for Raila Odinga? will feel disenfranchised. The resigning IEBC Commissioner Roselyn Akombe’s comments were even more startling, including her view that “most Commissioners are keen to have an election even if it is at the cost of the lives of our staff and voters.”
?With their silence, the US and the UK are doing grave damage to their standing in Kenya and Africa?, and abetting the naked power grab by President Uhuru Kenyatta, who has shown repeatedly that he is determined to hold on to power at all costs. They are also undermining ?the ?cardinal values of democracy and the rule of law, and the free and fair elections upon which they, and the legitimacy of a Kenyan president, depend.
The deeply complex legal issues that surround the lawfulness of the 26 October are also far from resolved. In any event, the Supreme Court had warned that it would not hesitate to annul the new election if it too was not free and fair, as defined by the Constitution and the laws of Kenya. How will the Court? treat a petition challenging the outcome of an election which the IEBC chairman has in advance said cannot be free and fair?
It is sheer madness to hold an election under such circumstances.
?Three days ago?, ?J?ubilee stalwarts such ?as ?Kabogo, Karua, Kabando, Mwiria and other leaders from outside the region warned that Kenya is on the “verge of disintegration” and a fresh presidential election plunge the country into violence as there is no confidence in the process.”
The US and UK intervened robustly after the rigged 2007 election caused mass violence. They gave full support to the ?successful ?Kofi Anna?n?-led negotiations? that resolved the violence and also gave us the 2010 Constitution. Giv?en that two more rigged election have occurred since ?2007, and the polarization and the radicalization that have been growing daily since the 8th of August, this is an even more perilous moment for Kenya. The two countries cannot continue to back an election that will usher Uhuru back into power through the back door.
The African Union is the meantime seems to have no idea whatsoever on helping ?find a way out of the crisis.
Salim Lone, Adviser,
Nasa flag bearer Raila Odinga
Chebu’s Statement for the record;
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2rMMQJiqMB8clB5OXJLSHRiSkk
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Salim Lome trying to work the international angle - but where is the leverage - UK and US will only intervene if there is lots of deaths - so far nothing of that sort has happened or is about to happen.
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NASA just shown the whole alphabet soup of western diplomats the middle finger
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Uhunye should not sign the amendments
Baba stop interfering, your withdrawal is regrettable
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Uhunye should not sign the amendments
Baba stop interfering, your withdrawal is regrettable
Maybe the Kenyan envoy in DC should also hold a presser giving suggestions on the crisis in US democracy, anti-black police violence and alt-right intimidation :D. Bazungus are simply out of their depths on this one trying to speak from both sides of the mouth. The chairman of IEBC has already told them it can't happen, why are they insisting he can do what he clearly thinks cannot be done?
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This is the Bora elections crowd. Its just as silly as those who came up with mlolongo. I have never heard anybody say that an election which one half of the country is boycotting and the electoral body is in disarray is democratic and should go ahead.
Uhunye should not sign the amendments
Baba stop interfering, your withdrawal is regrettable
Maybe the Kenyan envoy in DC should also hold a presser giving suggestions on the crisis in US democracy, anti-black police violence and alt-right intimidation :D. Bazungus are simply out of their depths on this one trying to speak from both sides of the mouth. The chairman of IEBC has already told them it can't happen, why are they insisting he can do what he clearly thinks cannot be done?
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This is the Bora elections crowd. Its just as silly as those who came up with mlolongo. I have never heard anybody say that an election which one half of the country is boycotting and the electoral body is in disarray is democratic and should go ahead.
Uhunye should not sign the amendments
Baba stop interfering, your withdrawal is regrettable
Maybe the Kenyan envoy in DC should also hold a presser giving suggestions on the crisis in US democracy, anti-black police violence and alt-right intimidation :D. Bazungus are simply out of their depths on this one trying to speak from both sides of the mouth. The chairman of IEBC has already told them it can't happen, why are they insisting he can do what he clearly thinks cannot be done?
They can see through the boycott as nothing more than Babu’s survival strategy
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Looks like US are fed up with NASA shenanigans.
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A lion is NOT a cat regardless of whether the US says otherwise. All we know is that an election which half the country is sitting-out, and which some commissioners has said cannot be free and fair is not an election regardless of whether the US says otherwise. The US and the Europeans should have called for the postponement until a solution is found if they were sincere and really wanted to have peace in Kenya. These are the same people who certified the rigged 8/8 elections just to be nullified by the SCOK. They do not have credibility anymore and should not be taken seriously.
Looks like US are fed up with NASA shenanigans.
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This is the Bora elections crowd. Its just as silly as those who came up with mlolongo. I have never heard anybody say that an election which one half of the country is boycotting and the electoral body is in disarray is democratic and should go ahead.
Maybe the Kenyan envoy in DC should also hold a presser giving suggestions on the crisis in US democracy, anti-black police violence and alt-right intimidation :D . Bazungus are simply out of their depths on this one trying to speak from both sides of the mouth. The chairman of IEBC has already told them it can't happen, why are they insisting he can do what he clearly thinks cannot be done?
They want things to get back to happy go lucky as quickly as possible. They cannot understand why they should endure some discomfort because an African wants to fix some things long term in his backyard. To some extent they are just as inaccessible as a jubilant in his echo chamber.
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Where will these NASA men run when Tobiko issues arrest orders? I doubt Magufuli can host them.
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A lion is NOT a cat regardless of whether the US says otherwise. All we know is that an election which half the country is sitting-out, and which some commissioners has said cannot be free and fair is not an election regardless of whether the US says otherwise. The US and the Europeans should have called for the postponement until a solution is found if they were sincere and really wanted to have peace in Kenya. These are the same people who certified the rigged 8/8 elections just to be nullified by the SCOK. They do not have credibility anymore and should not be taken seriously.
Looks like US are fed up with NASA shenanigans.
Quite.
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Where will these NASA men run when Tobiko issues arrest orders? I doubt Magufuli can host them.
Tobiko the partisan Jubilee hack? I think the government has more pressing matters than to harass nasa leaders
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[18:25, 10/23/2017] Dennis: KISII
OCTOBER 23, 2017.
NASA SAYS FOREIGN ENVOYS NOT HELPFUL TO KENYA’S CAUSE:
At various campaign stops in greater Kisii earlier today, the National Super Alliance asked foreign diplomats in Kenya to keep off the country’s elections and political affairs because they are not being helpful.
Presidential candidate Raila Odinga said envoys are hell-bent on pushing Kenyans into an election that will not be credible and which will only throw the country into deeper political crisis.
Mr. Odinga questioned the silence of the diplomats on the resignation last week of Dr. Roselyn Akombe and her revelations that the IEBC was incapable of delivering credible elections. He said the diplomats are equally silent on revelations by Dr. Akombe that she had been receiving death threats prior to her resignation and the admission by the IEBC chairman Mr. Wafula Chebukati that he could not guarantee credible elections next week.
Mr. Odinga expressed concern that diplomats are pushing for any kind of elections, credible or otherwise, just to close the chapter regardless of the consequences and warned that they had crossed the line and were now openly interfering in Kenya’s election.
The NASA leader said the “irregularities” and “illegalities” that made the Supreme Court nullify the results of the presidential elections held in August have not been properly addressed despite the efforts that saw the Opposition condense them into specific irreducible minimums to ensure credible polls.
The NASA leaders warned that “a small minority” that is determined to subvert Kenya's journey towards democratization will fail and instead be swept away.
“There will be elections in Kenya soon but not this month (October)” Odinga said.
The swipe at diplomats marks a significant parting of ways and follows a meeting earlier Monday with sections of the diplomatic community before the NASA team headed out to Kisii. The meeting took place at Mr. Odinga’s offices at the request of the diplomats and focused on the situation in the country in the lead up to October 26 when the new Presidential election is supposed to be held in Kenya. It brought together ambassadors and high Commissioner of the US, UK, EU, Norway and Denmark who all asked NASA to participate in the poll that is now three days away.
At the meeting, NASA reiterated the position that the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission is not ready to conduct free, fair and credible elections.
Until today, NASA has only silently voiced concern at the determination of the international community to push Kenya into an election that will not meet the standards set out by the Supreme Court.
The Opposition has been silently concerned at the silence of the diplomats since the astonishing confession By IEBC chairman Webukati that he cannot guarantee that the election slated for 26 October will be free and fair, that his own staff do not listen to him.
NASA found the resigning IEBC Commissioner Roselyn Akombe’s comments were even more startling and quietly expressed shock that key global partners remained silent thereby risking being seen to be undermining the cardinal values of democracy and the rule of law, and the free and fair elections upon which they, and the legitimacy of a Kenyan president, depend.
In Kisii today, Mr. Odinga accused the diplomats of adding confusion to the country and asked them to leave Kenyans alone.
Ends.
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The whole world can now see how madman for who he really is...jubilee should not hesistate to throw the nasa principals behind bars
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They can start throwing people behind bars whenever they are ready.
The whole world can now see how madman for who he really is...jubilee should not hesistate to throw the nasa principals behind bars
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Why not.no leverage.no friends.spend a weekend or two in cell for treason
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Nothing is working for NASWA
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The withdrawal was meant to push the re-run to Feb 2018 - and prolong the crisis - but turned into a blunder. After Thursday NASA can then meet Jubilee to discuss any reforms - that are objective and longterm - to be applied in 2022. Poor Chebukati will probably be added to the new minimums - and join Isaak, Chiloba and Oswago in early retirement.
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The withdrawal was meant to push the re-run to Feb 2018 - and prolong the crisis - but turned into a blunder. After Thursday NASA can then meet Jubilee to discuss any reforms - that are objective and longterm - to be applied in 2022. Poor Chebukati will probably be added to the new minimums - and join Isaak, Chiloba and Oswago in early retirement.
The whole kicking the can further down the road was meant to buy more time for NASWA to get their act together. The blunder was in blowing the little chance they had
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NASWA still hopeful of some postponement
ENVOYS DUCK A CRUCIAL RESPONSIBILITY
?D?espite the excruciatingly bleak political environment, envoys ducked taking a stand.
The US, UK and other Western envoys in their statement today ducked the question of whether the 26th October election should be postponed, despite painting an excruciatingly bleak picture of Kenya’s "deteriorating political environment.”
Their neutrality makes no sense and can do harm. But even that neutrality is faint, since the statement gives the impression that the envoys would have no problem if the election were held on Thursday, as by asking Raila Odinga to run in the election.
The envoys mentioned IEBC chair Wafula Chebukati and former member Roselyn Akombe’s “concerns” - but sideline these immediately by saying they require “action.” In three days?
But Akombe has not raised concerns, she had made earthshaking revelations about how totally corrupted IEBC operations are. Chairman Chebukati has said he cannot guarantee that the election will be free and fair. No “action” could possibly be taken on all these issues within a few days of course. So at the press conference, US Ambassador Robert Godec said that if the electoral commission felt it was not ready for Thursday's poll, it should ask the courts for a delay. It's called passing the buck.
The reality is that except for Uhuru Kenyatta and Jubilee, Kenyan public opinion now overwhelming favours delay. But the envoys have ignored this rising tide of opposition from most sectors of society, including from heads of trade unions like COTU, KUPPET and the University Staff Union, and the Doctors and Nurses unions. Civil Society virtually en masse had opposed the election date earlier. A few days ago, influential Mt Kenya region leaders such as Martha Karua, William Kabogo, Kabando-wa-Kabando and Kiraitu Murungi pointed to the bruising polarization and urged delay.
Kenyans should not be imperiled by rushing into an ill organized and chaotic election by a corrupted IEBC staff. The Chairman must seek from the Supreme Court a 90 day delay to ensure national healing and to put in mechanisms for a free, fair and credible election.
Salim Lone, Adviser
NASA Presidential candidate Raila Odinga
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Separately, Western envoys urged the agency on Monday to seek an extension to the election timetable from the Supreme Court if it’s not ready to hold the vote this week. The suggestion was made by U.S. Ambassador Bob Godec and backed by 19 other foreign diplomatic missions in Kenya.
“We are interested in a credible election, not quick fixes,” Godec told reporters in the capital, Nairobi. “The IEBC, or any citizen, should be free to request an extension beyond the 60 days. It’s a question for the IEBC whether or not the election takes place on the 26th.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-23/kenya-president-meets-electoral-chief-insists-on-thursday-vote
Can't pick the highlighted from Godec's speech
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But IEBC says they are ready and have already distributed polling material. IEBC have the power to postphone election in Luo Nyanza and such places where preparation has been impeded for some days. In any case with NASA boycotting - and Uhuru expected to win by 98% - the Luo Nyanza votes may be irrelevant.
Separately, Western envoys urged the agency on Monday to seek an extension to the election timetable from the Supreme Court if it’s not ready to hold the vote this week. The suggestion was made by U.S. Ambassador Bob Godec and backed by 19 other foreign diplomatic missions in Kenya.
“We are interested in a credible election, not quick fixes,” Godec told reporters in the capital, Nairobi. “The IEBC, or any citizen, should be free to request an extension beyond the 60 days. It’s a question for the IEBC whether or not the election takes place on the 26th.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-23/kenya-president-meets-electoral-chief-insists-on-thursday-vote
Can't pick the highlighted from Godec's speech