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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: vooke on October 13, 2017, 12:47:17 PM

Title: Willis Otieno v Kamotho Waiganjo
Post by: vooke on October 13, 2017, 12:47:17 PM
I found this debate quite civil,something that lacks in Kenia forgetting about the quality for now
Title: Re: Willis Otieno v Kamotho Waiganjo
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 13, 2017, 04:14:41 PM
Kamotho loves the institutions because he knows they are charades that dignify criminality.  With rare exceptions they serve those in power.  Every time an institution has come up for one purpose or another it has been immediately co-opted by the mafia.  You have to believe in miracles to believe that a half a century habit will suddenly change itself for the better.
Title: Re: Willis Otieno v Kamotho Waiganjo
Post by: Kichwa on October 13, 2017, 04:40:02 PM
Its laughable the way he goes on and on about institutions as if we just have institutions for their sake even when they are completely undermining our democracy.  NASA tried and gave IEBC time to reform itself but it was infiltrated by jubilee and rendered useless piece of garbage. Chebukati seems to have known exactly what to do when he fired his first Memo to Chiloba then the mafia prevailed upon him and he became docile and compliant to arap mashamba.

With Raila's withdrawal, this IEBC as constituted is no longer relevant. It has been overtaken by events. It can hold elections if it so desires on October 26th and announce Ouru the president but who really cares. It will be a useless elections. Raila should go on vacation after London, instruct his supporters to take to the streets and demonstrate,  do not participate in the October 26 elections,  and then come back fresh to push for political changes and a new elections with a new IEBC and new laws if needed.

Kamotho loves the institutions because he knows they are charades that dignify criminality.  With rare exceptions they serve those in power.  Every time an institution has come up for one purpose or another it has been immediately co-opted by the mafia.  You have to believe in miracles to believe that a half a century habit will suddenly change itself for the better.
Title: Re: Willis Otieno v Kamotho Waiganjo
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 13, 2017, 04:54:14 PM
Its laughable the way he goes on and on about institutions as if we just have institutions for their sake even when they are completely undermining our democracy.  NASA tried and gave IEBC time to reform itself but it was infiltrated by jubilee and rendered useless piece of garbage. Chebukati seems to have known exactly what to do when he fired his first Memo to Chiloba then the mafia prevailed upon him and he became docile and compliant to arap mashamba.

With Raila's withdrawal, this IEBC as constituted is no longer relevant. It has been overtaken by events. It can hold elections if it so desires on October 26th and announce Ouru the president but who really cares. It will be a useless elections. Raila should go on vacation after London, instruct his supporters to take to the streets and demonstrate,  do not participate in the October 26 elections,  and then come back fresh to push for political changes and a new elections with a new IEBC and new laws if needed.

Kamotho loves the institutions because he knows they are charades that dignify criminality.  With rare exceptions they serve those in power.  Every time an institution has come up for one purpose or another it has been immediately co-opted by the mafia.  You have to believe in miracles to believe that a half a century habit will suddenly change itself for the better.

Institutions in Kenya actually tend to be the core of the problem.  They become stand ins for behavioral change.
Title: Re: Willis Otieno v Kamotho Waiganjo
Post by: vooke on October 13, 2017, 04:57:56 PM
Its laughable the way he goes on and on about institutions as if we just have institutions for their sake even when they are completely undermining our democracy.  NASA tried and gave IEBC time to reform itself but it was infiltrated by jubilee and rendered useless piece of garbage. Chebukati seems to have known exactly what to do when he fired his first Memo to Chiloba then the mafia prevailed upon him and he became docile and compliant to arap mashamba.

With Raila's withdrawal, this IEBC as constituted is no longer relevant. It has been overtaken by events. It can hold elections if it so desires on October 26th and announce Ouru the president but who really cares. It will be a useless elections. Raila should go on vacation after London, instruct his supporters to take to the streets and demonstrate,  do not participate in the October 26 elections,  and then come back fresh to push for political changes and a new elections with a new IEBC and new laws if needed.

Kamotho loves the institutions because he knows they are charades that dignify criminality.  With rare exceptions they serve those in power.  Every time an institution has come up for one purpose or another it has been immediately co-opted by the mafia.  You have to believe in miracles to believe that a half a century habit will suddenly change itself for the better.

Institutions in Kenya actually tend to be the core of the problem.  They become stand ins for behavioral change.
Whenever they work against NASWA
Title: Re: Willis Otieno v Kamotho Waiganjo
Post by: Kichwa on October 13, 2017, 05:05:49 PM
Its laughable the way he goes on and on about institutions as if we just have institutions for their sake even when they are completely undermining our democracy.  NASA tried and gave IEBC time to reform itself but it was infiltrated by jubilee and rendered useless piece of garbage. Chebukati seems to have known exactly what to do when he fired his first Memo to Chiloba then the mafia prevailed upon him and he became docile and compliant to arap mashamba.

With Raila's withdrawal, this IEBC as constituted is no longer relevant. It has been overtaken by events. It can hold elections if it so desires on October 26th and announce Ouru the president but who really cares. It will be a useless elections. Raila should go on vacation after London, instruct his supporters to take to the streets and demonstrate,  do not participate in the October 26 elections,  and then come back fresh to push for political changes and a new elections with a new IEBC and new laws if needed.

Kamotho loves the institutions because he knows they are charades that dignify criminality.  With rare exceptions they serve those in power.  Every time an institution has come up for one purpose or another it has been immediately co-opted by the mafia.  You have to believe in miracles to believe that a half a century habit will suddenly change itself for the better.

Institutions in Kenya actually tend to be the core of the problem.  They become stand ins for behavioral change.
Whenever they work against NASWA

I think Windy is talking about institutions in general way before NASA. Think outside this little box.
Title: Re: Willis Otieno v Kamotho Waiganjo
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on October 13, 2017, 05:12:01 PM
Its laughable the way he goes on and on about institutions as if we just have institutions for their sake even when they are completely undermining our democracy.  NASA tried and gave IEBC time to reform itself but it was infiltrated by jubilee and rendered useless piece of garbage. Chebukati seems to have known exactly what to do when he fired his first Memo to Chiloba then the mafia prevailed upon him and he became docile and compliant to arap mashamba.

With Raila's withdrawal, this IEBC as constituted is no longer relevant. It has been overtaken by events. It can hold elections if it so desires on October 26th and announce Ouru the president but who really cares. It will be a useless elections. Raila should go on vacation after London, instruct his supporters to take to the streets and demonstrate,  do not participate in the October 26 elections,  and then come back fresh to push for political changes and a new elections with a new IEBC and new laws if needed.

Kamotho loves the institutions because he knows they are charades that dignify criminality.  With rare exceptions they serve those in power.  Every time an institution has come up for one purpose or another it has been immediately co-opted by the mafia.  You have to believe in miracles to believe that a half a century habit will suddenly change itself for the better.

Institutions in Kenya actually tend to be the core of the problem.  They become stand ins for behavioral change.
Whenever they work against NASWA

I think Windy is talking about institutions in general way before NASA. Think outside this little box.

Yep.  I didn't otherwise understand vooke's sentence.  interestingly Naswa is a Luhya woman's name.  There might be one that is worth having a crush on, who knows?
Title: Re: Willis Otieno v Kamotho Waiganjo
Post by: vooke on October 13, 2017, 07:48:04 PM
Its laughable the way he goes on and on about institutions as if we just have institutions for their sake even when they are completely undermining our democracy.  NASA tried and gave IEBC time to reform itself but it was infiltrated by jubilee and rendered useless piece of garbage. Chebukati seems to have known exactly what to do when he fired his first Memo to Chiloba then the mafia prevailed upon him and he became docile and compliant to arap mashamba.

With Raila's withdrawal, this IEBC as constituted is no longer relevant. It has been overtaken by events. It can hold elections if it so desires on October 26th and announce Ouru the president but who really cares. It will be a useless elections. Raila should go on vacation after London, instruct his supporters to take to the streets and demonstrate,  do not participate in the October 26 elections,  and then come back fresh to push for political changes and a new elections with a new IEBC and new laws if needed.

Kamotho loves the institutions because he knows they are charades that dignify criminality.  With rare exceptions they serve those in power.  Every time an institution has come up for one purpose or another it has been immediately co-opted by the mafia.  You have to believe in miracles to believe that a half a century habit will suddenly change itself for the better.

Institutions in Kenya actually tend to be the core of the problem.  They become stand ins for behavioral change.
Whenever they work against NASWA

I think Windy is talking about institutions in general way before NASA. Think outside this little box.

Yep.  I didn't otherwise understand vooke's sentence.  interestingly Naswa is a Luhya woman's name.  There might be one that is worth having a crush on, who knows?
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