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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: vooke on July 06, 2017, 07:27:26 AM

Title: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: vooke on July 06, 2017, 07:27:26 AM
It really is nothing but this is Nairobi and to bag the Senator seat he must impress beyond Jubilee core tribes (GEMA). It also supposedly shows diversity in Jubilee though I've heard all the Nairobi JUBILEE Parliamentary aspirants are Okoyu.

That's why it had to be a Luhya....and he has always been Johnson Sakaja, so much that Atwoli shamelessly campaigned for him during Labor Day begging Nairobi not to let his son down.

 until someone dug up his records and discovered he is a Koskei. NASA bloggers are having a ball with this.

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Then Robert Alai attempted to save the brother by some photoshop claiming he is a Kisii

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Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: patel on July 06, 2017, 07:38:33 AM
I believe Baghdad Bob over spoke in his premature celebration how a kalenjin had Nairobi Senate seat in the bag. Jubilee team in Nairobi is in total disarray.  I doubt Sonko will recover from the debate meltdown.
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: RV Pundit on July 06, 2017, 08:30:04 AM
Sakaja and Sonko are beyond tribe. You cannot pigeonhole someone who has never been tribal by digging up his names. Sakaja is as Nairobean as it's get.

And you make it sound like Luhyas are the one handing over senate.

Sifuna is so colourless I doubt he can beat Pkoskei even a contest in Kanduyi :) where he lost before be told to ran in Nairobi when ODM realized they had no candidate.

Sakaja is Sabaot - his mother is Luhya. I know his dad - worked for GoK - owns a bar pale Mowlem - Sakaja grand father was Mt Elgon Mp. So Sakaja for a fact Sakaja is half-kalenjin half-luhya.

I dont'  see anybody make an issue of fact that passaris other name is MUTHONI?

I believe Baghdad Bob over spoke in his premature celebration how a kalenjin had Nairobi Senate seat in the bag. Jubilee team in Nairobi is in total disarray.  I doubt Sonko will recover from the debate meltdown.
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: vooke on July 06, 2017, 11:08:58 AM
Thing with Sakaja is he did not deliberately hide his name; he has always been Sakaja since he came to limelight in 2012.

His advantage over Sifuna is he started early and he's more urbane,speaks fluent sheng, not to mention Sonko-Effect . Sifuna has that childish campus heckling mentality which is very good for tv debates but he is a miserable public speaker.
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: RV Pundit on July 06, 2017, 11:12:25 AM
If anybody is in trouble - in Jubilee - then Shebesh is - the battle btw Shebesh & Passaris is epic. Sakaja versus dour Sifuna is walk over. Kidero versus Sonko - another walk over.
Thing with Sakaja is he did not deliberately hide his name; he has always been Sakaja since he came to limelight in 2012.

His advantage over Sifuna is he started early and he's more urbane,speaks fluent sheng, not to mention Sonko-Effect . Sifuna has that childish campus heckling mentality which is very good for tv debates but he is a miserable public speaker.
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: vooke on July 06, 2017, 11:12:52 AM
I believe Baghdad Bob over spoke in his premature celebration how a kalenjin had Nairobi Senate seat in the bag. Jubilee team in Nairobi is in total disarray.  I doubt Sonko will recover from the debate meltdown.

Sonko will never dazzle cameras but he connects with raia like you've never seen, and he has been consistent over the last 4yrs. I doubt the debate will affect his performance
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: RV Pundit on July 06, 2017, 11:17:57 AM
Maybe 1% of Nairobian watched the debate - and Miguna will probably win that 1%. Sonko is going to beat Kidero like a drum. The thing is Nairobi have had so called Dr Kidero with big words and nothing on ground...they just want somebody who is as different from Kidero as possible..and that is Sonko..few words..more action.
Sonko will never dazzle cameras but he connects with raia like you've never seen, and he has been consistent over the last 4yrs. I doubt the debate will affect his performance
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: vooke on July 06, 2017, 11:19:30 AM
If anybody is in trouble - in Jubilee - then Shebesh is - the battle btw Shebesh & Passaris is epic. Sakaja versus dour Sifuna is walk over. Kidero versus Sonko - another walk over.


I think Passarris will easily grab it. Shebesh slept with Sonko and never woke up till a few weeks ago. Heard she was unwell....
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: RV Pundit on July 06, 2017, 12:35:30 PM
That is my thinking too - in any case I still like what passaris did with "Adopt a Light".
I think Passarris will easily grab it. Shebesh slept with Sonko and never woke up till a few weeks ago. Heard she was unwell....
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: RV Pundit on July 06, 2017, 12:40:53 PM
http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2017/07/kidero-sonko-neck-and-neck-in-nairobi-gubernatorial-race-poll/
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Kichwa on July 06, 2017, 01:22:36 PM
Pindito, so where are you getting your #'s that "Sonko will beat kidero like a drum" or are you just expressing your preference?

http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2017/07/kidero-sonko-neck-and-neck-in-nairobi-gubernatorial-race-poll/
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Omollo on July 06, 2017, 01:23:58 PM
Very strange. 1% watched the Sonko debate but every Kenyan watched David Ndii. You have no shame

Maybe 1% of Nairobian watched the debate - and Miguna will probably win that 1%. Sonko is going to beat Kidero like a drum. The thing is Nairobi have had so called Dr Kidero with big words and nothing on ground...they just want somebody who is as different from Kidero as possible..and that is Sonko..few words..more action.
Sonko will never dazzle cameras but he connects with raia like you've never seen, and he has been consistent over the last 4yrs. I doubt the debate will affect his performance
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Omollo on July 06, 2017, 01:35:01 PM
You know where he plucks his percentages from, don't you by now?

He decided that Jubilee will be the first ruling party in Africa to win votes in the capital city. The very ANC lost Johannesburg, Tshwane (where Pretoria lies)  and many other major cities but Jubilee will control Nairobi. There are just some things that define a fallen brain and that is one of them

Kidero Team would stand no chance if CORD had won in 2013. As of now, he is walking back in.

Miguna has no traction. Sonko lost the Luhyas and his anti-establishment credentials. He is too close to Uhuru and the Jubilee government. That comes with a price. His decision to openly screw Shebesh angered many traditionalist Luhyas.

Again, he paraded his Sonko Rescue. That was before he ran out of drug money and shut down most of his operations. he has tried to resuscitate it but the ongoing Jubilee cash crunch has affected him badly as Gout revealed.

But try getting a single one of these hard facts in some thick heads and you will find why people love to protect their stupidity.

Pindito, so where are you getting your #'s that "Sonko will beat kidero like a drum" or are you just expressing your preference?

http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2017/07/kidero-sonko-neck-and-neck-in-nairobi-gubernatorial-race-poll/
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Omollo on July 06, 2017, 01:36:05 PM
No dignity whatever...
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Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Omollo on July 06, 2017, 01:39:16 PM
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Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: RV Pundit on July 06, 2017, 01:48:17 PM
It not strange that you try to twist and turn - but you know - I am used to your nonsense. Ndii even if performed so well won't have altered any things significant. I just felt for the intellectual sake  of it - I  & many who tunned in were robbed - of our time listening to an incoherent geek.
Very strange. 1% watched the Sonko debate but every Kenyan watched David Ndii. You have no shame
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Nefertiti on July 06, 2017, 01:54:20 PM
CORD needs to deploy Muthama venom if it wants to wrestle Sonko.
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: RV Pundit on July 06, 2017, 01:55:50 PM
I get my % mainly from tribal arithmetic - and then I consider other factors - normally just to cross-check that tribal maths are indeed right. This opinion poll is just confirming what I know -

As for Nairobi - this repeat of 2013  - Sonko won Senator - by huge margin (coz he won GEMA+Kamba+ low-class ) - than Raila - who also won Nairobi  - while Jubilee won the women rep.

Raila will win Nairobi (check MOAS) by small margin - 50% versus 47%.
Nairobi Gikiyu 29%,Akamba 17%,Luo 16%,Luhya 15%,   - Uhuru 47% - Raila 50%.

My money is also on Sakaja winning this. Edwin Sifuna is just a nobody. He has no name recognition and is basically riding on Raila coat tails but Nairobi enjoy very slight advantage in Nairobi (which has a little more non-tribal base) - and Sifuna just need more than that - he couldn't hack Kanduyi for crying out loud.

I am also putting my money on Passaris - I think Shebesh will lose.

As always whether my punditry is good or bad will be known on 9th. Kidero will be in Asumbi before that.

You know where he plucks his percentages from, don't you by now?

He decided that Jubilee will be the first ruling party in Africa to win votes in the capital city. The very ANC lost Johannesburg, Tshwane (where Pretoria lies)  and many other major cities but Jubilee will control Nairobi. There are just some things that define a fallen brain and that is one of them

Kidero Team would stand no chance if CORD had won in 2013. As of now, he is walking back in.

Miguna has no traction. Sonko lost the Luhyas and his anti-establishment credentials. He is too close to Uhuru and the Jubilee government. That comes with a price. His decision to openly screw Shebesh angered many traditionalist Luhyas.

Again, he paraded his Sonko Rescue. That was before he ran out of drug money and shut down most of his operations. he has tried to resuscitate it but the ongoing Jubilee cash crunch has affected him badly as Gout revealed.

But try getting a single one of these hard facts in some thick heads and you will find why people love to protect their stupidity.
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: RV Pundit on July 06, 2017, 02:00:05 PM
Yeah Kambas - have a choice to wait for Mueke (which may never come) or to take it through Sonko. And Sonko obvioulsy has his own appeal as man of the people. I think we know what they'll do - a bird in hand is better than two. They will vote Sonko - and vote Raila for PORK.
CORD needs to deploy Muthama venom if it wants to wrestle Sonko.
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Omollo on July 06, 2017, 02:13:19 PM
There are many - going by the reaction on social media - who do not share your obviously minority opinion. Your failure to acknowledge that:
1. Anne Kiguta based her introduction and questions on a false manifesto
2. She had cheating notes which she kept using throughout the interview despite being told three times that they were based on a non existent document
3. She as Jomo Gecaga's wife should have recused herself from the interview

render your position hopelessly biased and counterfeit
It not strange that you try to twist and turn - but you know - I am used to your nonsense. Ndii even if performed so well won't have altered any things significant. I just felt for the intellectual sake  of it - I  & many who tunned in were robbed - of our time listening to an incoherent geek.
Very strange. 1% watched the Sonko debate but every Kenyan watched David Ndii. You have no shame
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Omollo on July 06, 2017, 04:41:48 PM
Shebesh is losing because the Luhyas have walked out on their team. Their anger is mostly directed at Sonko not Shebesh that much because at the end of the day, Luhyas and Luos never abandon their "wife" even when she commits adultery.

So if you are admitting that Shebesh would lose, upon what basis would Sonko win? In the last election, he got the Luhya vote for senate while Kidero and Shebesh got for Woman Rep and Governor. This time Kidero keeps the Luhya vote for Gov but Sonko loses it.

Sakaja may still get some Luhya votes because the big guns have not paid attention to him yet. He has stayed under the radar so far. But soon he will open his mouth and attract attention and then his goose would be overcooked! But regardless, he will be fried in his own oil in the last 14 days of the campaign when attention will shift to Nairobi. So let him start saving his loot because he will need it.



I get my % mainly from tribal arithmetic - and then I consider other factors - normally just to cross-check that tribal maths are indeed right. This opinion poll is just confirming what I know -

As for Nairobi - this repeat of 2013  - Sonko won Senator - by huge margin (coz he won GEMA+Kamba+ low-class ) - than Raila - who also won Nairobi  - while Jubilee won the women rep.

Raila will win Nairobi (check MOAS) by small margin - 50% versus 47%.
Nairobi Gikiyu 29%,Akamba 17%,Luo 16%,Luhya 15%,   - Uhuru 47% - Raila 50%.

My money is also on Sakaja winning this. Edwin Sifuna is just a nobody. He has no name recognition and is basically riding on Raila coat tails but Nairobi enjoy very slight advantage in Nairobi (which has a little more non-tribal base) - and Sifuna just need more than that - he couldn't hack Kanduyi for crying out loud.

I am also putting my money on Passaris - I think Shebesh will lose.

As always whether my punditry is good or bad will be known on 9th. Kidero will be in Asumbi before that.

You know where he plucks his percentages from, don't you by now?

He decided that Jubilee will be the first ruling party in Africa to win votes in the capital city. The very ANC lost Johannesburg, Tshwane (where Pretoria lies)  and many other major cities but Jubilee will control Nairobi. There are just some things that define a fallen brain and that is one of them

Kidero Team would stand no chance if CORD had won in 2013. As of now, he is walking back in.

Miguna has no traction. Sonko lost the Luhyas and his anti-establishment credentials. He is too close to Uhuru and the Jubilee government. That comes with a price. His decision to openly screw Shebesh angered many traditionalist Luhyas.

Again, he paraded his Sonko Rescue. That was before he ran out of drug money and shut down most of his operations. he has tried to resuscitate it but the ongoing Jubilee cash crunch has affected him badly as Gout revealed.

But try getting a single one of these hard facts in some thick heads and you will find why people love to protect their stupidity.
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Omollo on July 06, 2017, 04:44:30 PM
There is something I should point out: Pundit being Ruto's protege is hell bent on having Kidero out because their stated objective is the Hilary Clinton approach only their has a political genocide streak
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: RV Pundit on July 06, 2017, 05:01:56 PM
Read again what I wrote even before that opinion poll was out.Shebesh n passaris are both kikuyus but passaris has track record n beauty to roll over Shebesh. Sifuna is a nobody in Nairobi. Governship is Sonko bila waziwazi.Nairobi is pretty tight so any extra advantage a candidate has really counts.Kidero has disappointed everyone..and kambas will decide it.The long boorish luhya bedroom affairs are non issues.
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Omollo on July 06, 2017, 10:04:24 PM
Passaris ran in 2013. She was a Kikuyu then as she is now! She was much younger (at least by five years) meaning more beautiful than today.

She ran against the same "ugly" Shebesh who was as Kikuyu then as now!

This Pundit guy is a joke and now a source of amusement
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Kichwa on July 06, 2017, 10:32:51 PM

Pundit's narrative is that Ouruto's five years of  misrule has no effect on the way Kenyans are going to vote and all that matters is tribal maths.

Passaris ran in 2013. She was a Kikuyu then as she is now! She was much younger (at least by five years) meaning more beautiful than today.

She ran against the same "ugly" Shebesh who was as Kikuyu then as now!

This Pundit guy is a joke and now a source of amusement
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 06, 2017, 11:50:55 PM
Would it help if he just said he will eat on behalf of the Luhyas ahead of anybody else?
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: patel on July 07, 2017, 12:47:29 AM
Baghdad Bob is a walking contradiction. ..now sakaja will defy tribal math because he is a Koskei. One wonders why is Sakaja running away from his tribe?
 
Passaris ran in 2013. She was a Kikuyu then as she is now! She was much younger (at least by five years) meaning more beautiful than today.

She ran against the same "ugly" Shebesh who was as Kikuyu then as now!

This Pundit guy is a joke and now a source of amusement
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: vooke on July 07, 2017, 11:00:59 AM
Shebesh is losing because the Luhyas have walked out on their team. Their anger is mostly directed at Sonko not Shebesh that much because at the end of the day, Luhyas and Luos never abandon their "wife" even when she commits adultery.

So if you are admitting that Shebesh would lose, upon what basis would Sonko win? In the last election, he got the Luhya vote for senate while Kidero and Shebesh got for Woman Rep and Governor. This time Kidero keeps the Luhya vote for Gov but Sonko loses it.

Sakaja may still get some Luhya votes because the big guns have not paid attention to him yet. He has stayed under the radar so far. But soon he will open his mouth and attract attention and then his goose would be overcooked! But regardless, he will be fried in his own oil in the last 14 days of the campaign when attention will shift to Nairobi. So let him start saving his loot because he will need it.



I get my % mainly from tribal arithmetic - and then I consider other factors - normally just to cross-check that tribal maths are indeed right. This opinion poll is just confirming what I know -

As for Nairobi - this repeat of 2013  - Sonko won Senator - by huge margin (coz he won GEMA+Kamba+ low-class ) - than Raila - who also won Nairobi  - while Jubilee won the women rep.

Raila will win Nairobi (check MOAS) by small margin - 50% versus 47%.
Nairobi Gikiyu 29%,Akamba 17%,Luo 16%,Luhya 15%,   - Uhuru 47% - Raila 50%.

My money is also on Sakaja winning this. Edwin Sifuna is just a nobody. He has no name recognition and is basically riding on Raila coat tails but Nairobi enjoy very slight advantage in Nairobi (which has a little more non-tribal base) - and Sifuna just need more than that - he couldn't hack Kanduyi for crying out loud.

I am also putting my money on Passaris - I think Shebesh will lose.

As always whether my punditry is good or bad will be known on 9th. Kidero will be in Asumbi before that.

You know where he plucks his percentages from, don't you by now?

He decided that Jubilee will be the first ruling party in Africa to win votes in the capital city. The very ANC lost Johannesburg, Tshwane (where Pretoria lies)  and many other major cities but Jubilee will control Nairobi. There are just some things that define a fallen brain and that is one of them

Kidero Team would stand no chance if CORD had won in 2013. As of now, he is walking back in.

Miguna has no traction. Sonko lost the Luhyas and his anti-establishment credentials. He is too close to Uhuru and the Jubilee government. That comes with a price. His decision to openly screw Shebesh angered many traditionalist Luhyas.

Again, he paraded his Sonko Rescue. That was before he ran out of drug money and shut down most of his operations. he has tried to resuscitate it but the ongoing Jubilee cash crunch has affected him badly as Gout revealed.

But try getting a single one of these hard facts in some thick heads and you will find why people love to protect their stupidity.

Sonko's populist antics trumps cultural taboo. He has been consistent in showing up first at slum fires, fighting land grabbers and he has always been in the limelight.

Shebesh goes down because she's been MIA for a better part of her term. She's not losing because Passaris is any better , though I think she is, but because she was out of sight
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Omollo on July 07, 2017, 06:12:07 PM
You can probably speak for Sonko and may  be your own people. Luhyas and Luos have red lines which cannot be crossed and many have paid a heavy price when they have attempted to cross. Sonko can get away with murder in Kikuyuland but trust me, his nonsense is frowned upon. He lost the Luhya vote on that basis. The campaign against him in Nairobi is keenly aware of his ability to command huge resources and will not match or attempt to compete him there. So they found something to pin on his ass and they are making sure it sticks.

Like I said, Nairobi will be determined in the last few weeks. Today Saba Saba saw Raila direct fire at Sakaja and the Kamukunji MP. They will be better defined towards the end of this month.


Sonko's populist antics trumps cultural taboo. He has been consistent in showing up first at slum fires, fighting land grabbers and he has always been in the limelight.

Shebesh goes down because she's been MIA for a better part of her term. She's not losing because Passaris is any better , though I think she is, but because she was out of sight
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: vooke on July 07, 2017, 06:26:18 PM
You can probably speak for Sonko and may  be your own people. Luhyas and Luos have red lines which cannot be crossed and many have paid a heavy price when they have attempted to cross. Sonko can get away with murder in Kikuyuland but trust me, his nonsense is frowned upon. He lost the Luhya vote on that basis. The campaign against him in Nairobi is keenly aware of his ability to command huge resources and will not match or attempt to compete him there. So they found something to pin on his ass and they are making sure it sticks.

Like I said, Nairobi will be determined in the last few weeks. Today Saba Saba saw Raila direct fire at Sakaja and the Kamukunji MP. They will be better defined towards the end of this month.


Sonko's populist antics trumps cultural taboo. He has been consistent in showing up first at slum fires, fighting land grabbers and he has always been in the limelight.

Shebesh goes down because she's been MIA for a better part of her term. She's not losing because Passaris is any better , though I think she is, but because she was out of sight
Don't swallow your words when Sifuna the villager is shown dust.

If I were you, I'd be making up excuses for his thrashing. You can concoct NIS,DCI,IEBC or any other ghost that tickles your fancy.

Sonko probably appealed more to Kambas in NBO outside Uhuru's GEMA. Were they irked by screwing Shebesh? Your bet is as good as mine
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: patel on July 07, 2017, 06:28:47 PM
Sifuna should deploy or hire Onyago Oloo former secretary general of TNA to show how SaKaja koskei and others rigged the 2013 elections. 
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: vooke on July 07, 2017, 06:32:50 PM
Sifuna should deploy or hire Onyago Oloo former secretary general of TNA to show how SaKaja koskei and others rigged the 2013 elections. 
He has been silent ever since he was kicked out TNA screaming. You can bet his silence means he has NOTHING
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 07, 2017, 06:38:41 PM
Sifuna should deploy or hire Onyago Oloo former secretary general of TNA to show how SaKaja koskei and others rigged the 2013 elections. 
He has been silent ever since he was kicked out TNA screaming. You can bet his silence means he has NOTHING

Is it possible for one to know many things of which they remain silent about?  I think so.  The code of omerta could not otherwise work.  I would not arrive at a definitive conclusion either way on the basis of someone's silence.
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Omollo on July 07, 2017, 06:53:01 PM
Is it such a big issue? I must get down to work to understand why The Manifesto and Sifuna are of such importance to Jubilee robots all over.

In that case I can guarantee you that Sifuna will win the senate Nairobi.

Don't swallow your words when Sifuna the villager is shown dust.

If I were you, I'd be making up excuses for his thrashing. You can concoct NIS,DCI,IEBC or any other ghost that tickles your fancy.

Sonko probably appealed more to Kambas in NBO outside Uhuru's GEMA. Were they irked by screwing Shebesh? Your bet is as good as mine
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: vooke on July 07, 2017, 09:32:55 PM
Sifuna should deploy or hire Onyago Oloo former secretary general of TNA to show how SaKaja koskei and others rigged the 2013 elections. 
He has been silent ever since he was kicked out TNA screaming. You can bet his silence means he has NOTHING

Is it possible for one to know many things of which they remain silent about?  I think so.  The code of omerta could not otherwise work.  I would not arrive at a definitive conclusion either way on the basis of someone's silence.
He had threatened to spill the beans not once or twice.

While you are right in not reading 'nothing ' out of his silence, it is safe to assume that he is not about to spill nothing. It's been months
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: vooke on July 07, 2017, 09:35:55 PM
Is it such a big issue? I must get down to work to understand why The Manifesto and Sifuna are of such importance to Jubilee robots all over.

In that case I can guarantee you that Sifuna will win the senate Nairobi.

Don't swallow your words when Sifuna the villager is shown dust.

If I were you, I'd be making up excuses for his thrashing. You can concoct NIS,DCI,IEBC or any other ghost that tickles your fancy.

Sonko probably appealed more to Kambas in NBO outside Uhuru's GEMA. Were they irked by screwing Shebesh? Your bet is as good as mine

CORD bloggers are the ones obsessed with Sakaja's Kale heritage. They obviously imagine his middle name is enough to bring him down.

NASA manifesto is not important except it proves NASA is as captive to cartels as Jubilee if not more. Recall they are the ones who authored and shared it not your imaginary omniscient NIS
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Kichwa on July 07, 2017, 09:51:13 PM
Its like you came to discuss a cow and somebody puts up the picture of a goat, says it is a cow, and insists that you treat it as a cow and answer questions about it as if it were a cow.  Ndii refused and Ms. Kiguta got mad. How can a document with so much  details including the number of low housing units to be built be a manifesto?.  If you want Ndii to talk details then do not invite him to talk about a manifesto. This ujinga has to end with someone like Ndii saying NO!   

There are many - going by the reaction on social media - who do not share your obviously minority opinion. Your failure to acknowledge that:
1. Anne Kiguta based her introduction and questions on a false manifesto
2. She had cheating notes which she kept using throughout the interview despite being told three times that they were based on a non existent document
3. She as Jomo Gecaga's wife should have recused herself from the interview

render your position hopelessly biased and counterfeit
It not strange that you try to twist and turn - but you know - I am used to your nonsense. Ndii even if performed so well won't have altered any things significant. I just felt for the intellectual sake  of it - I  & many who tunned in were robbed - of our time listening to an incoherent geek.
Very strange. 1% watched the Sonko debate but every Kenyan watched David Ndii. You have no shame
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Kichwa on July 07, 2017, 09:53:34 PM
Its amazing how tribal politics is ok when it favors one and horrible when it does not.  My position on tribal politics is that some times is does not work.  Will it work on Sakaja's case? I have no idea.

Is it such a big issue? I must get down to work to understand why The Manifesto and Sifuna are of such importance to Jubilee robots all over.

In that case I can guarantee you that Sifuna will win the senate Nairobi.

Don't swallow your words when Sifuna the villager is shown dust.

If I were you, I'd be making up excuses for his thrashing. You can concoct NIS,DCI,IEBC or any other ghost that tickles your fancy.

Sonko probably appealed more to Kambas in NBO outside Uhuru's GEMA. Were they irked by screwing Shebesh? Your bet is as good as mine

CORD bloggers are the ones obsessed with Sakaja's Kale heritage. They obviously imagine his middle name is enough to bring him down.

NASA manifesto is not important except it proves NASA is as captive to cartels as Jubilee if not more. Recall they are the ones who authored and shared it not your imaginary omniscient NIS
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Omollo on July 08, 2017, 07:00:11 PM
Onyango Oloo has been very vocal and has been in countless TV and Radio stadios to work against Jubilee and preach the gospel of anti- rigging. Thanks to him we have identified and sealed countless rigging loopholes. We simply told him to earn NASA's confidence and he is so far doing very well.

That said, I personally thought it was good riddance. OO was a curtain bought and paid for by Jubilee on the advice of the PR firms. It is no wonder he was replaced by Murderer of Wife's Lover Tuju. It will not work this time.

We are waiting for Tuju to be kicked out too - whether he will scream or not is surely not NASA's business. When a man decides to kick his dogs and they scream, I never heard of a neighbor who intervened. Do not expect me or anybody to be sad that you kicked your dog - Onyango Oloo - in the balls. But of course we will receive, weigh, counter check and use whatever information he gives us.


He has been silent ever since he was kicked out TNA screaming. You can bet his silence means he has NOTHING

Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Omollo on July 08, 2017, 07:04:49 PM
Did you become so broke that you turned to the NIS to become their agent? Did they send you here to stalk me?

You know you will fail don't you? Either you chose a debate based on facts and logic or it will degenerate in to what you want and quite fast. You think you have returned with extra energy. I got news for you: You got NOTHING

As we say: Hauna lolote! Same cow dung in your head as before
Don't swallow your words when Sifuna the villager is shown dust.

If I were you, I'd be making up excuses for his thrashing. You can concoct NIS,DCI,IEBC or any other ghost that tickles your fancy.

Sonko probably appealed more to Kambas in NBO outside Uhuru's GEMA. Were they irked by screwing Shebesh? Your bet is as good as mine

CORD bloggers are the ones obsessed with Sakaja's Kale heritage. They obviously imagine his middle name is enough to bring him down.

NASA manifesto is not important except it proves NASA is as captive to cartels as Jubilee if not more. Recall they are the ones who authored and shared it not your imaginary omniscient NIS
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Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: vooke on July 08, 2017, 09:28:53 PM
Did you become so broke that you turned to the NIS to become their agent? Did they send you here to stalk me?

You know you will fail don't you? Either you chose a debate based on facts and logic or it will degenerate in to what you want and quite fast. You think you have returned with extra energy. I got news for you: You got NOTHING

As we say: Hauna lolote! Same cow dung in your head as before
Don't swallow your words when Sifuna the villager is shown dust.

If I were you, I'd be making up excuses for his thrashing. You can concoct NIS,DCI,IEBC or any other ghost that tickles your fancy.

Sonko probably appealed more to Kambas in NBO outside Uhuru's GEMA. Were they irked by screwing Shebesh? Your bet is as good as mine

CORD bloggers are the ones obsessed with Sakaja's Kale heritage. They obviously imagine his middle name is enough to bring him down.

NASA manifesto is not important except it proves NASA is as captive to cartels as Jubilee if not more. Recall they are the ones who authored and shared it not your imaginary omniscient NIS
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Sifuna the villager is going nowhere. Sonko will wash the kanjo toilets with Kidero's face.
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: Omollo on July 08, 2017, 09:45:01 PM
This is what is called declaratory rhetoric. It is meaningless and any baboon can utter the same or opposite. It is the preserve of intellectual retards mostly at choo.com . Only God can make such declarations and they become truth. The rest of civilzed humanity is bound by the evidence and logic or even "reason".

Sifuna the villager is going nowhere. Sonko will wash the kanjo toilets with Kidero's face.
Title: Re: Sakaja's Tribe
Post by: vooke on July 09, 2017, 07:10:25 AM
This is what is called declaratory rhetoric. It is meaningless and any baboon can utter the same or opposite. It is the preserve of intellectual retards mostly at choo.com . Only God can make such declarations and they become truth. The rest of civilzed humanity is bound by the evidence and logic or even "reason".

Sifuna the villager is going nowhere. Sonko will wash the kanjo toilets with Kidero's face.

Because it's a simple fact. Btw, the same poll you think will give Raia 60% says he's more popular with NASWA than Sifuna is with Jubilee