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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: KenyanPlato on February 07, 2022, 05:30:31 PM

Title: Ayang Nyongo will go down as greatest thinker and performer
Post by: KenyanPlato on February 07, 2022, 05:30:31 PM
I expected this guy to be the worst governor but it seems he is a practical guy. A performer. The nyongo family seems to be full of geniuses. Anyway his own dad owned rental houses in nairobi. I think they were estimated to be worthy 300 million. That is not small feat for a luo back then.

He is an enigma.  Transformation of kisumu is complete.
He performed well in planning ministry. We need more of this type of guys

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Title: Re: Ayang Nyongo will go down as greatest thinker and performer
Post by: RV Pundit on February 07, 2022, 05:38:01 PM
Yes, he is a genius and the family are thoroughbred.
Shida Odinga - have made such leaders in Luoland rare.
With his exit of Raila soon - no apparent Odinga heir - the twisted mouth Raila Jnr cant hack - Luo Nyanza will start to germinate brilliant leaders.
Luo community has suffered enough with Odinga and gov marginalization
Title: Re: Ayang Nyongo will go down as greatest thinker and performer
Post by: sema on February 07, 2022, 06:25:36 PM
If Kenya were not a tribally backward, medieval society, people like Anyang Nyongo and Miguna Miguna would be running the central government, but now we are going to be left with thugs like Oscar Sudi, William Ruto and Gachagua, but this is who that medieval society wants and that's who'll they'll get and they'll continue to wallow in poverty because of it.
Title: Re: Ayang Nyongo will go down as greatest thinker and performer
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 07, 2022, 06:26:22 PM
Sometimes I look at some comments and I wonder whats wrong with Kenyans.
But then again
Title: Re: Ayang Nyongo will go down as greatest thinker and performer
Post by: Nowayhaha on February 07, 2022, 06:28:38 PM


So in Kibakis government what did he achieve ?

If Kenya were not a tribally backward, medieval society, people like Anyang Nyongo and Miguna Miguna would be running the central government, but now we are going to be left with thugs like Oscar Sudi, William Ruto and Gachagua, but this is who that medieval society wants and that's who'll they'll get and they'll continue to wallow in poverty because of it.
Title: Re: Ayang Nyongo will go down as greatest thinker and performer
Post by: KenyanPlato on February 07, 2022, 06:34:21 PM


So in Kibakis government what did he achieve ?

If Kenya were not a tribally backward, medieval society, people like Anyang Nyongo and Miguna Miguna would be running the central government, but now we are going to be left with thugs like Oscar Sudi, William Ruto and Gachagua, but this is who that medieval society wants and that's who'll they'll get and they'll continue to wallow in poverty because of it.

I thought they put together the first turnaround economic plan. First term I think
Title: Re: Ayang Nyongo will go down as greatest thinker and performer
Post by: sema on February 07, 2022, 06:35:02 PM
So in Kibakis government what did he achieve ?




Kibaki built a road that every one referred to as a "super highway"  and was thereafter proclaimed a hero
Title: Re: Ayang Nyongo will go down as greatest thinker and performer
Post by: RV Pundit on February 07, 2022, 06:39:32 PM
Yes Prof Nyongo and Ndii were engine of the narc economic recovery strategy paper - later kibaki did his vision 2030.
I thought they put together the first turnaround economic plan. First term I think
Title: Re: Ayang Nyongo will go down as greatest thinker and performer
Post by: RV Pundit on February 07, 2022, 06:42:23 PM
But then again you're an idiot.
Prof Nyongo has a top brain - anybody who has met him since alliance knows that.
He has Phd in Political Economics from University of Chicago.
Chicago school of economics has produced top brains.
Nyongo was responsible for Narc economic recovery.
Nyongo and Sally Kosgey basically taught most of Kenya economist.
Dr Ndii cannot wash Nyongo shoes...he was Nyongo lackey until recently.
It a shame Nyongo due to political realism - has been forced to kowtow to the welding certificate holder Raila.

As of 2018, the University of Chicago Economics department, considered one of the world's foremost economics departments, has been awarded 13 Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences—more than any other university—and has been awarded six John Bates Clark Medals.[3][4][5] Not all members of the department belong to the Chicago school of economics, which is a school of thought rather than an organization

Sometimes I look at some comments and I wonder whats wrong with Kenyans.
But then again

Title: Re: Ayang Nyongo will go down as greatest thinker and performer
Post by: RV Pundit on February 07, 2022, 06:49:09 PM
As you celebrated Kibaki economic miracle - it was Prof Nyongo who laid out the plan

“My ministry mobilised the nation as well as development partners and rallied them behind the economic strategy which eventually proved to be to be a major success of the Kibaki presidency,” he writes in a Leap Into the Future, a Vision for Kenya’s Social Political Transformation.

I had very good ideas on how we could reach double digit growth within the fifth year of our government but this required very bold steps; heavy investment in public works, a radical reform in the civil service and drastic cuts in public consumption. We also needed to take democratic governance seriously and not use the language of democratic governance as rhetoric,” he writes.

The recovery strategy was a huge success. He says the government stopped borrowing from banks by floating treasury bills and bonds whose interest rates were not very attractive. Banks and mortgage houses became awash with cash.

The real estate sector grew by leaps and bounds. According to Nyong’o, there was an unprecedented bonanza in the growth of the housing sector in Kenya.

But a major point must be made here. There was economic recovery, but he argues that the desired economic growth and employment creation was disrupted by corruption driven by the power elite around Kibaki. The major one was the Anglo-Leasing scandal that was unearthed by then Ethics and Governance PS John Githongo in which Kenya lost billions of shillings to fictitious tendering of security contracts. The net effect of the scam was that it ended donor confidence in the NARC govern
Title: Re: Ayang Nyongo will go down as greatest thinker and performer
Post by: sema on February 07, 2022, 06:50:16 PM
What Ruto needs is an economic advisory team made of people like Nyongo and Ndii.  People who have schooled OUTSIDE of Kenya and people that understand the global world. Ndindi Nyoro and Kimani wa ichungwa and Oscar Sudi...I'm sorry. These are village bumpkins.
Title: Re: Ayang Nyongo will go down as greatest thinker and performer
Post by: RV Pundit on February 07, 2022, 06:52:19 PM
Yes countries that have excelled have got the best brains to give them a roadmap.
You only need 5yr development plan.
Let them come up with manifesto
A roadmap - and go home.
Then bring in Oscar sudis, Rutos, Gachaguas to religious follow the plan - break bones if need be - but get the job done.
It's like a building - architect design - and you bring in the wheelbarrows.

So Ruto should definitely get 10 Ndiis into a room
Let them think of the best plan to get us double digit growth.
Then turn the plan into actionable programs.
Then bring in Sudis - Sudis perform great in CDF - compared to many who talk English.
Because he understand his job is to ensure schools are built - not intellectualize or talk about crazy ideas.

What Ruto needs is an economic advisory team made of people like Nyongo and Ndii.  People who have schooled OUTSIDE of Kenya and people that understand the global world. Ndindi Nyoro and Kimani wa ichungwa and Oscar Sudi...I'm sorry. These are village bumpkins.
Title: Re: Ayang Nyongo will go down as greatest thinker and performer
Post by: Georgesoros on February 07, 2022, 07:43:31 PM
Well how much has he taken in kickbacks???
How much has the ordinary guy benefited? Or is it the 1% economy.
Title: Re: Ayang Nyongo will go down as greatest thinker and performer
Post by: RV Pundit on February 08, 2022, 05:33:23 PM
What ail Kenya is that everyone is know it all expert and you have zero doers...we need good plan.. corruption is not big deal like having bad or no plan like magufuli self imposed ideas.Pinochet got Chicago boys and they turned Chile into a developed country..first latin country to pull it after white Argentina.Yet Pinochet was corrupt dictator.Get good plan then get down to work.. after 5yrs review... don't excuse laziness with long theories...get the thing done...then after 5yrs you go for another plan.This work in Ethiopia and China