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Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« on: January 09, 2023, 11:55:30 AM »



https://nation.africa/kenya/news/politics/ignore-sakaja-and-stay-put-dp-gachagua-tells-matatu-club-owners-4080148

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2023, 12:06:14 PM »
Sakaja is counting on Rutos support/which is imaginary
Bonni Khalwale has told him point blank taking up Gachagua is suicide .
GEMA are now rallying behind Gachagua.
Sakaja will know he is a nobody simply because he has 0 votes .

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2023, 12:11:08 PM »
He is clearly interfering with Sakaja gov.If Ruto cannot reign on him..Sakaja should prepare to become Azimio gov and take the bull by its horn in 2032.That should be Sakaja gamelan..Nairobi is not mathira.Sakaja got more votes in Nairobi than Ruto

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2023, 12:12:13 PM »
Sakaja cannot even win any Mp seat in Nairobi under UDA.
I dont like the route Gachagua is using to to gain tract but it seems its being effective in pushing Sakaja to ODM .

Sakaja is counting on Rutos support/which is imaginary
Bonni Khalwale has told him point blank taking up Gachagua is suicide .
GEMA are now rallying behind Gachagua.
Sakaja will know he is a nobody simply because he has 0 votes .

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2023, 12:21:07 PM »
Sakaja cannot even win any Mp seat in Nairobi under UDA.
I dont like the route Gachagua is using to to gain tract but it seems its being effective in pushing Sakaja to ODM .

Sakaja is counting on Rutos support/which is imaginary
Bonni Khalwale has told him point blank taking up Gachagua is suicide .
GEMA are now rallying behind Gachagua.
Sakaja will know he is a nobody simply because he has 0 votes .
Totally agreed Gachagua should have rang Ruto first and expressed his reservation against Sakaja chini ya maji and let Mzito do the ground work,Riggy G is lacking soft power which is equally important as hard power he needs diplomatic tact.
But Sakaja is to blame with his big head thinking he can take on a DP, thats why GEMA supporting Riggy G simply because Sakaja is trying to show that he can take on the most senior leader in the region,Sakaja is very green whoever likens him to Ruto needs his brains recalibrated

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2023, 12:23:20 PM »
Sakaja got more votes than uda.His main rival Weta bro is going to Bungoma to take over Lusaka.Gachagua will only succeed in alienating gema in Nairobi.Sakaja game is to take both madvd and Gachagua post 2027...his path therefore is to play middle ground of uda and azimio

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2023, 12:24:42 PM »

Sakajas survival and re election trajectory is only under UDA . If he aligns himself with ODM he will be impeached and it will pass in Senate . If he decides to run under ODM in 2027 he will have to fight it out with many candidates in ODM  and secondly he will lose a solid 40% block and the trick him and Sonko have used since 2017 and 2022 of toping up a few tribal votes after being backed by GEMA .

He is clearly interfering with Sakaja gov.If Ruto cannot reign on him..Sakaja should prepare to become Azimio gov and take the bull by its horn in 2032.That should be Sakaja gamelan..Nairobi is not mathira.Sakaja got more votes in Nairobi than Ruto

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2023, 12:29:00 PM »
Twist it how you want . In an ODM Governor nomination between Sakaja and Babu Owino in Nairobi Sakaja would be defeated by 0800LT.
Tell me where he would win under UDA ticket in Nairobi as an MP ?

Sakaja got more votes than uda.His main rival Weta is going to Bungoma to take over Lusaka.Gachagua will only succeed in alienating gema in Nairobi.

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2023, 12:34:34 PM »

Sakajas survival and re election trajectory is only under UDA . If he aligns himself with ODM he will be impeached and it will pass in Senate . If he decides to run under ODM in 2027 he will have to fight it out with many candidates in ODM  and secondly he will lose a solid 40% block and the trick him and Sonko have used since 2017 and 2022 of toping up a few tribal votes after being backed by GEMA .

He is clearly interfering with Sakaja gov.If Ruto cannot reign on him..Sakaja should prepare to become Azimio gov and take the bull by its horn in 2032.That should be Sakaja gamelan..Nairobi is not mathira.Sakaja got more votes in Nairobi than Ruto
Sakaja is already running handshake gov..that real beef btw him and Gachagua. Nairobi is not mathira.Sakaja was elected on his merit.Tribal maths have failed waitutu and recently igathe.Sakaja should ignore Gachagua and work for Nairobi. Those are people who elected him..then in 2032 he should go for president.

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2023, 12:35:53 PM »
Twist it how you want . In an ODM Governor nomination between Sakaja and Babu Owino in Nairobi Sakaja would be defeated by 0800LT.
Tell me where he would win under UDA ticket in Nairobi as an MP ?

Sakaja got more votes than uda.His main rival Weta is going to Bungoma to take over Lusaka.Gachagua will only succeed in alienating gema in Nairobi.
Babu can't run and win govership..he can only excite Luos.Nairobi is very tough.Sakaja has been elected Senator and governor of Nairobi. Why would he go back to be an mp.He should win re election n then take war to Gachagua.Its depends on Ruto..if uda plays fair..he stays..dump he moves out.impeachment when Azimio control Nairobi is hard

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2023, 12:42:37 PM »
2032 many people will not vote ruffian like Gachagua or weakling like madvd..so we need Sakaja as best option to replace Ruto.I don't see Ndidi or kimani outclassing Gachagua in Mt Kenya.So we need contest btw Sakaja and Gachagua

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2023, 12:42:50 PM »
how many Azimio MCAs  are ODM and how many are Jubilee ? asking to know

Twist it how you want . In an ODM Governor nomination between Sakaja and Babu Owino in Nairobi Sakaja would be defeated by 0800LT.
Tell me where he would win under UDA ticket in Nairobi as an MP ?

Sakaja got more votes than uda.His main rival Weta is going to Bungoma to take over Lusaka.Gachagua will only succeed in alienating gema in Nairobi.
Babu can't run and win govership..he can only excite Luos.Nairobi is very tough.Sakaja has been elected Senator and governor of Nairobi. Why would he go back to be an mp.He should win re election n then take war to Gachagua.Its depends on Ruto..if uda plays fair..he stays..dump he moves out.impeachment when Azimio control Nairobi is hard

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2023, 12:44:19 PM »

Sakaja is a personal friend , I ve told him focus on getting relected and go CS in 2032 .

2032 many people will not vote ruffian like Gachagua or weakling like madvd..so we need Sakaja as best option to replace Ruto.

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2023, 12:45:44 PM »
how many Azimio MCAs  are ODM and how many are Jubilee ? asking to know

Twist it how you want . In an ODM Governor nomination between Sakaja and Babu Owino in Nairobi Sakaja would be defeated by 0800LT.
Tell me where he would win under UDA ticket in Nairobi as an MP ?

Sakaja got more votes than uda.His main rival Weta is going to Bungoma to take over Lusaka.Gachagua will only succeed in alienating gema in Nairobi.
Babu can't run and win govership..he can only excite Luos.Nairobi is very tough.Sakaja has been elected Senator and governor of Nairobi. Why would he go back to be an mp.He should win re election n then take war to Gachagua.Its depends on Ruto..if uda plays fair..he stays..dump he moves out.impeachment when Azimio control Nairobi is hard
I think they are only four jubilee ..rest are kavirondo of luo,luhya and gusii in odm..these are people Sakaja will run to if Gachagua incite Gema.Gachagua will bring another igathe and fail in 2027

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2023, 12:48:24 PM »

Sakaja is a personal friend , I ve told him focus on getting relected and go CS in 2032 .

2032 many people will not vote ruffian like Gachagua or weakling like madvd..so we need Sakaja as best option to replace Ruto.
Riggy is hard sell..Sakaja has opportunity if he can talk nicely to luhya and kalenjin. Sakaja only real competitor is madvd.This tiff with Gachagua is perfect. Now he will need to eventually appeal to luhya and take out madvd.

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2023, 12:53:34 PM »
how many Azimio MCAs  are ODM and how many are Jubilee ? asking to know

Twist it how you want . In an ODM Governor nomination between Sakaja and Babu Owino in Nairobi Sakaja would be defeated by 0800LT.
Tell me where he would win under UDA ticket in Nairobi as an MP ?

Sakaja got more votes than uda.His main rival Weta is going to Bungoma to take over Lusaka.Gachagua will only succeed in alienating gema in Nairobi.
Babu can't run and win govership..he can only excite Luos.Nairobi is very tough.Sakaja has been elected Senator and governor of Nairobi. Why would he go back to be an mp.He should win re election n then take war to Gachagua.Its depends on Ruto..if uda plays fair..he stays..dump he moves out.impeachment when Azimio control Nairobi is hard
I think they are only four jubilee ..rest are kavirondo of luo,luhya and gusii in odm..these are people Sakaja will run to if Gachagua incite Gema.Gachagua will bring another igathe and fail in 2027

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2023, 12:57:33 PM »
Getting 2/3 to impeach Sakaja is impossible unless Raila and Ruto agree.Nairobi sio mathira.Sakaja has to play tough balancing act...handshake lazima.He needs Raila and Ruto.Gachagua want to be in table too but approach is terrible

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2023, 01:07:31 PM »

Very easy , this not parliament , attrition rate of MCAs is super high , Most know they wont make it back. Its all about money however its played giving them or denying them . Sakaja will go through what Sonko went through depends how he will manage it .
And I wish Sakaja well, what I gather is that Gachagua is playing dirty game Sakaja says it about control of Nairobi resources

Getting 2/3 to impeach Sakaja is impossible unless Raila and Ruto agree.Nairobi sio mathira.Sakaja has to play tough balancing act...handshake lazima.He needs Raila and Ruto.Gachagua want to be in table too but approach is terrible

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2023, 01:11:01 PM »
Sakaja is as smooth as an eel..Gachagua is building Sakaja.Ruto will never sacrifice Sakaja..luhyas will be mad

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Re: Sakaja should br pragmatic He wont win this
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2023, 01:15:09 PM »
These are valid points. I have never understood obsession by kanjo leaders with working matatus while health facilities, garbage, water and sewer are totally dysfunctional.   

I underestimated the heartbreaks visited by hasla revolution