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Title: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Higgins the genius on July 31, 2017, 01:40:22 PM
From reliable sources. More to follow
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kadame5 on July 31, 2017, 01:43:06 PM
Jesus Christ. I hope this is fake news. Wapi link????????????????????????????
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 01:44:17 PM
YEAH. THIS IS SAD.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kadame5 on July 31, 2017, 01:47:13 PM
YEAH. THIS IS SAD.
Pundit, where are you guys getting this? I don't see anything reported anywhere???????????????????????
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Higgins the genius on July 31, 2017, 01:49:57 PM
Body found at City Mortuary and identified by family. The body was brought yesterday from Kikuyu. He has a missing arm.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Higgins the genius on July 31, 2017, 01:51:49 PM
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/07/31/iebc-ict-manager-chris-msando-found-dead_c1607611 (http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/07/31/iebc-ict-manager-chris-msando-found-dead_c1607611)
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Higgins the genius on July 31, 2017, 01:59:25 PM
Blame flowing left, right and center
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kadame5 on July 31, 2017, 02:02:39 PM
Body found at City Mortuary and identified by family. The body was brought yesterday from Kikuyu. He has a missing arm.
May God have mercy on us. May the demons who did this meet their due. Is power so important? 
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 02:03:14 PM
I guess he was tortured before being killed. Blame goes to GoK until they investigate this. He had 5 phones. They didn't take his car. The police should quickly swing into action. IEBC should also quickly work on contingency plan - change all passwords/servers configuration - name anything musando knew.

This for me is clearly linked to the elections - somebody trying to infiltrate IEBC system using brute force literally.

Body found at City Mortuary and identified by family. The body was brought yesterday from Kikuyu. He has a missing arm.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: vooke on July 31, 2017, 02:08:43 PM
I guess he was tortured before being killed. Blame goes to GoK until they investigate this. He had 5 phones. They didn't take his car. The police should quickly swing into action. IEBC should also quickly work on contingency plan - change all passwords/servers configuration - name anything musando knew.

This for me is clearly linked to the elections - somebody trying to infiltrate IEBC system using brute force literally.

Body found at City Mortuary and identified by family. The body was brought yesterday from Kikuyu. He has a missing arm.

IEBC should also roll back everything that has changed in their db since Friday
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 02:11:39 PM
The more we go electronic - the more dangerous it get for guys running those systems.
IEBC should also roll back everything that has changed in their db since Friday
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Omollo on July 31, 2017, 02:14:55 PM
The rumor started yesterday now it has been confirmed. Musando was a Jubilee man until he turned against them.

Here is Omollosque whatever:

1. The ballot stuffing plan has been abandoned but the order has yet to reach Mwathethe to disband the group
2. The focus is now on the 2007 style rigging where:


Led and managed by Consolata Bucha Maina:
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: einstein_g on July 31, 2017, 02:20:52 PM
It's noteworthy though that the Kasarani/Roysambu area has become very insecure of late. Just last week, a group of women were in the media talking about this, there were protests and a KCB rugby player was shot dead in cold blood (video doing the rounds on the internet).
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 02:21:23 PM
Predictable uber-nonsense. You're a nut a case.
The rumor started yesterday now it has been confirmed. Musando was a Jubilee man until he turned against them.

Here is Omollosque whatever:

1. The ballot stuffing plan has been abandoned but the order has yet to reach Mwathethe to disband the group
2. The focus is now on the 2007 style rigging where:


Led and managed by Consolata Bucha Maina:
  • Returning Officers will brazenly announce false results in favor of Uhuru/li]
    • IEBC will make one FINAL announcement and award the certificate to Uhuru
    • KDF and the Police will unleash a reign of terror
    • Uhuru will declare a state of emergency after some high ranking persons are killed and NASA blamed

    Do I think they will succeed?

    Pundit, when you come with your insults, first call Ruto and ask him to use all his power to establish whether there is any agreement between Keter and Uthamaki. And advice him not to rush his family to Sugoi. Mmechezwa vibaya.

    The Sugoi Incident was used to gain access to Ruto's residence. They took away some cargo which I will show evidence of after elections.

    Let the vooke and pundit start hurling matusi. I do not often respond after posting this type of info.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 02:22:50 PM
Possibly. Also 5 dead people were found dumped in Kikuyu. If these were normal thugs - they will be nabbed easily - through the phone. They touched the wrong person - coz the spotlight is on the police to solve this murder.
It's noteworthy though that the Kasarani/Roysambu area has become very insecure of late. Just last week, a group of women were in the media talking about this, there were protests and a KCB rugby player was shot dead in cold blood (video doing the rounds on the internet).
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kadame5 on July 31, 2017, 02:40:40 PM
It's noteworthy though that the Kasarani/Roysambu area has become very insecure of late. Just last week, a group of women were in the media talking about this, there were protests and a KCB rugby player was shot dead in cold blood (video doing the rounds on the internet).
Was he even there? Only his car has been found packed there. That mpango wa kando story was Moses Kuria rubish. And who delivered the body to the mortuary? That is the person to start with. It'll take a LOT to convince people that this was a random thuggish attack. Why take him? Leave his car? And he had complained of death threats.

That said, the guy shouldve never taken a job with IEBC. Poor soul. Kenya is a mafia country. If you get death threats, run from the police and straight to JKIA. Iyo tu. I dont know who will want that job after this.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: gout on July 31, 2017, 02:44:57 PM
Tragic!! Crazy!!
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on July 31, 2017, 02:50:36 PM
It's shocking even though it was obvious that he was dead or somehow incapacitated when he didn't respond to reports of his missing.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Higgins the genius on July 31, 2017, 02:51:15 PM
Precipice. Looks like these are our dark(est) and tense hours.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: einstein_g on July 31, 2017, 03:03:12 PM
Just trying to be offer a different perspective during these tension filled times. He sent an SMS at 3 am on Saturday morning that seemed to indicate that he was fully aware of the following day's itinerary, according to IEBC.

Not good though, and I hate the fact that politics puts us through all this nasty tension every 5 years.

It's noteworthy though that the Kasarani/Roysambu area has become very insecure of late. Just last week, a group of women were in the media talking about this, there were protests and a KCB rugby player was shot dead in cold blood (video doing the rounds on the internet).
Was he even there? Only his car has been found packed there. That mpango wa kando story was Moses Kuria rubish. And who delivered the body to the mortuary? That is the person to start with. It'll take a LOT to convince people that this was a random thuggish attack. Why take him? Leave his car? And he had complained of death threats.

That said, the guy shouldve never taken a job with IEBC. Poor soul. Kenya is a mafia country. If you get death threats, run from the police and straight to JKIA. Iyo tu. I dont know who will want that job after this.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 03:15:02 PM
So this musando was the body that was recovered alongside a woman over the weekend. I wonder who the woman is. Total of 5 bodies found in kikuyu this weekend.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Higgins the genius on July 31, 2017, 03:17:36 PM
Simulation of election transmission which was to be done today has been cancelled. Chebukati is furious and want security for all and sundry at IEBC
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Georgesoros on July 31, 2017, 03:19:02 PM
SAd!!!
Really sad...This guy had family.
Recenttly a lawyer  from KRA was also murdered.
Power is a very toxic thing and once one has absolute power it is destructive.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Georgesoros on July 31, 2017, 03:21:33 PM
SAd!!!
Really sad...This guy had family.
Recenttly a lawyer  from KRA was also murdered.
Power is a very toxic thing and once one has absolute power it is destructive.
It's noteworthy though that the Kasarani/Roysambu area has become very insecure of late. Just last week, a group of women were in the media talking about this, there were protests and a KCB rugby player was shot dead in cold blood (video doing the rounds on the internet).
Was he even there? Only his car has been found packed there. That mpango wa kando story was Moses Kuria rubish. And who delivered the body to the mortuary? That is the person to start with. It'll take a LOT to convince people that this was a random thuggish attack. Why take him? Leave his car? And he had complained of death threats.

That said, the guy shouldve never taken a job with IEBC. Poor soul. Kenya is a mafia country. If you get death threats, run from the police and straight to JKIA. Iyo tu. I dont know who will want that job after this.

Let me get this. They find a body and instead of calling police to investigate they just pick it and take it to the morgue????
Is this normal?
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Higgins the genius on July 31, 2017, 03:34:41 PM
For all we know it could a love triangle, a business deal gone sour, rivalry at work with James Muhatia, I mean it could be anything...you know.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kadame5 on July 31, 2017, 03:44:33 PM
For all we know it could a love triangle, a business deal gone sour, rivalry at work with James Muhatia, I mean it could be anything...you know.
Call me a follower of witchcraft, omolloesque something or whatever.... But I will not believe that without very good evidence to suggest it. He has been killed in the same style as other political killings before in this country, he reported death threats, and doesnt even appear to be robed. Jubilee supporters have been trying to downplay the bizarreness of all these incidents ever since they started, to the extent of making up a fake mpango wa kando rendes-vous for the late man. Even Chebukati and the IEBC lady I've seen on NTV seem convinced he was killed because of the elections. Yeah, there's always several possibilities but they are not all equally reasonable in the circumstances.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 03:46:14 PM
https://citizentv.co.ke/news/five-bodies-discovered-in-muguga-forest-kikuyu-171745/
Seem some folks were killing and dumping people at muguga forest kikuyu. Musando and woman was found dead on saturday by area resident.
For all we know it could a love triangle, a business deal gone sour, rivalry at work with James Muhatia, I mean it could be anything...you know.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: einstein_g on July 31, 2017, 03:46:54 PM
I hope we're not going to see a call for protests...
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Omollo on July 31, 2017, 03:47:22 PM
It is sad when a man is murdered and his family is subjected to LIES suggesting he was a lecher, cheat and adulterer. You participate in spreading the shit without asking for proof.

If a woman is found close to the body or even lying under it, does it mean anything? But publishing and repeating the information has the purpose of making insinuations of turpitude and character failings in order to indict, denigrate and humiliate the individual posthumously.

The story of lechery and debauchery emerged yesterday - even as NIS contacts informed NASA that the EJK squad of Muhoro had kidnapped Musando. It was amplified when his car was found - again without evidence.

Now he is found "with a dead woman".

Now we hear of a "love triangle". It sounds like am reading a modern day version of East of Eden. May be Musando too "had some problems in Boston"

When sms is exchanged and then the phone is found missing and the owner dead, how do we continue talking about that as proof of him having been alive and aware of the itinerary or the pope? For all I care, the killers sent the sms.

Who sends smses at 3am on a saturday? To whom did he send it and why was it important to sendit? Is it standard practice to send smses and if so at 3am?

People have moved away from sms to other platforms and it is almost universal. The people still in sms and still monitoring the same are NIS and old generation crap who still think the world revolves around sms.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 03:49:16 PM
There is nothing we can do expect wait for more information - from gok, family, colleagues and friends - then we can pierce the last movement of musando and who possibly killed him. Any creative omollosque nonsense for me isn't helpful for anybody. We know what we know.The man disappeared on friday night, a body was found by villagers in Kiambu on saturday with woman, and his car found yesternight - the family & police somehow pierced things together - and we know the body found on saturday naked & with lots of signs of torture was IEBC Acting IT Director.

Call me a follower of witchcraft, omolloesque something or whatever.... But I will not believe that without very good evidence to suggest it. He has been killed in the same style as other political killings before in this country, he reported death threats, and doesnt even appear to be robed. Jubilee supporters have been trying to downplay the bizarreness of all these incidents ever since they started, to the extent of making up a fake mpango wa kando rendes-vous for the late man. Even Chebukati and the IEBC lady I've seen on NTV seem convinced he was killed because of the elections. Yeah, there's always several possibilities but they are not all equally reasonable in the circumstances.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kichwa on July 31, 2017, 03:50:15 PM
NO it is not a love triangle. He is killed because he refused to help steal the elections for Ouruto.  Everybody including Pundit knows Jubilee is losing the presidential elections and that stealing is their only way to stay in power. They cannot do the high tech sleek 2013 stealing because they have been blocked every other way.  Their only option is the crude 2007 taking by force kind of stealing that Kibaki did.  And NO, Nkaissary did not die of a heart attack. The attack of Ruto's Surgoi home was not a random attack by lone ranger pretending to be  looking for water to drink  and then overpowering two armed to the neck GSU officers with nothing  but a pocket knife. while we are at it, Saitoti was murdered and yes  Ouko did not shoot himself, jump from an aircraft and burned his dead body-all by himself.  Ruto house was searched by force because they were looking for the billions he is known to have stashed somewhere. Nobody knows whether they found the cash but they took some stuff.  Two lives had to be sacrificed.

 Any sane person who still thinks that the mafia is not intent in Keeping power by all means needs to have their head examined. What more evidence do you really need?

For all we know it could a love triangle, a business deal gone sour, rivalry at work with James Muhatia, I mean it could be anything...you know.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kadame5 on July 31, 2017, 03:50:38 PM
https://citizentv.co.ke/news/five-bodies-discovered-in-muguga-forest-kikuyu-171745/
Seem some folks were killing and dumping people at muguga forest kikuyu. Musando and woman was found dead on saturday by area resident.
For all we know it could a love triangle, a business deal gone sour, rivalry at work with James Muhatia, I mean it could be anything...you know.
Pundit, that report said the man and woman were strangled and free of injuries. Msando is missing an arm and has obvious injuries as reported on NTV by Nimrod Tabu from those who have seen the body, indicating he was beaten or tortured. Where did you get the idea that Msando was the man reported on in that article?
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Omollo on July 31, 2017, 03:51:41 PM
How so convenient.

Denigration, confusion spin.

If I had a way I would love to see one of you found dead near a woman and write LIES about it. Mabaradhuli!

https://citizentv.co.ke/news/five-bodies-discovered-in-muguga-forest-kikuyu-171745/
Seem some folks were killing and dumping people at muguga forest kikuyu. Musando and woman was found dead on saturday by area resident.
For all we know it could a love triangle, a business deal gone sour, rivalry at work with James Muhatia, I mean it could be anything...you know.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: einstein_g on July 31, 2017, 03:52:06 PM
Quote
• Police found Chris’ body and that of an unidentified woman in Kikuyu.

• Police preliminary investigations into his missing had revealed that he was at Marshalls House on Harambee Avenue at 2am on Saturday.

• A security camera last captured him in his grey Land Rover Discovery on Mombasa Road on Friday, at 2.30am.

• His family failed to reach him on phone from 3am on Saturday.

• He sent his last SMS to one of his colleagues 30 minutes later, at 3am on Saturday.

• His family reported him missing at Embakasi Police Station on Saturday, July 29.

• Chris had received death threats and he had reported the matter to Central Police Station. The threats were linked to his job, police say.

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/IEBC-ICT-manager-Chris-Musando-dead/1056-4039424-8r8f7v/index.html
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 03:53:28 PM
Nonsense. Anybody can come up with any theory. Omollo does that every single day :D
NO it is not a love triangle. He is killed because he refused to help steal the elections for Ouruto.  Everybody including Pundit knows Jubilee is losing the presidential elections and that stealing is there only way to stay in power. They cannot do the high tech sleek 2013 stealing because they have been blocked every other way.  There only option is the crude 2007 taking by force kind of stealing that Kibaki did.  And NO, Nkaissary did not die of a heart attack. The attack of Ruto's Surgoi home was not a random attack by lone ranger pretending to be  looking for water to drink  and then overpowered an armed to the neck GSU officer with nothing  but a pocket knife. while we are at it, Saitoti was murdered and yes  Ouko did not shoot himself, jump from an aircraft and burned his dead body-all by himself.  Ruto house was searched by force because they were looking for the billions he is known to have stashed somewhere. Nobody knows whether they found the cash but two people had to die.  Any sane person who still thinks that the mafia is not intent in Keeping power by all means needs to have their head examined. What more evidence do you really need?

For all we know it could a love triangle, a business deal gone sour, rivalry at work with James Muhatia, I mean it could be anything...you know.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 03:54:37 PM
Now this information that is helpful in establishing the truth.
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• Police found Chris’ body and that of an unidentified woman in Kikuyu.

• Police preliminary investigations into his missing had revealed that he was at Marshalls House on Harambee Avenue at 2am on Saturday.

• A security camera last captured him in his grey Land Rover Discovery on Mombasa Road on Friday, at 2.30am.

• His family failed to reach him on phone from 3am on Saturday.

• He sent his last SMS to one of his colleagues 30 minutes later, at 3am on Saturday.

• His family reported him missing at Embakasi Police Station on Saturday, July 29.

• Chris had received death threats and he had reported the matter to Central Police Station. The threats were linked to his job, police say.

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/IEBC-ICT-manager-Chris-Musando-dead/1056-4039424-8r8f7v/index.html
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Omollo on July 31, 2017, 03:56:53 PM
Pundit, that report said the man and woman were strangled and free of injuries. Msando is missing an arm and has obvious injuries as reported on NTV by Nimrod Tabu from those who have seen the body, indicating he was beaten or tortured. Where did you get the idea that Msando was the man reported on in that article?
Kadame

Do not corner him that much. He resorts to insults and threats.

He is smearing a dead person and that violates all the values I hold and really gets me mad.

It is coordinated. Jubilee propagandists are tasked to smear Musando and all those saying he was killed. Here is what another Jubilee nut job wrote:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGECcyDXYAAq5r5.jpg:large)
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kichwa on July 31, 2017, 03:59:05 PM
How?  We had more information on Juma's movements complete with videos and yet the police have not told us who killed him.  If you are relying on the Kenya police to solve this cold blood murder conducted by the same people who ran this government then you are really naïve.

Now this information that is helpful in establishing the truth.
Quote
• Police found Chris’ body and that of an unidentified woman in Kikuyu.

• Police preliminary investigations into his missing had revealed that he was at Marshalls House on Harambee Avenue at 2am on Saturday.

• A security camera last captured him in his grey Land Rover Discovery on Mombasa Road on Friday, at 2.30am.

• His family failed to reach him on phone from 3am on Saturday.

• He sent his last SMS to one of his colleagues 30 minutes later, at 3am on Saturday.

• His family reported him missing at Embakasi Police Station on Saturday, July 29.

• Chris had received death threats and he had reported the matter to Central Police Station. The threats were linked to his job, police say.

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/IEBC-ICT-manager-Chris-Musando-dead/1056-4039424-8r8f7v/index.html
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: einstein_g on July 31, 2017, 04:02:45 PM
One important thing they should check is whether he was driving alone in the car. Juma was clearly alone in the CCTV images.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: hk on July 31, 2017, 04:11:00 PM
Now this information that is helpful in establishing the truth.
Quote
• Police found Chris’ body and that of an unidentified woman in Kikuyu.

• Police preliminary investigations into his missing had revealed that he was at Marshalls House on Harambee Avenue at 2am on Saturday.

• A security camera last captured him in his grey Land Rover Discovery on Mombasa Road on Friday, at 2.30am.

• His family failed to reach him on phone from 3am on Saturday.

• He sent his last SMS to one of his colleagues 30 minutes later, at 3am on Saturday.

• His family reported him missing at Embakasi Police Station on Saturday, July 29.

• Chris had received death threats and he had reported the matter to Central Police Station. The threats were linked to his job, police say.

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/IEBC-ICT-manager-Chris-Musando-dead/1056-4039424-8r8f7v/index.html
Where's marshals building on harambee ave. and what's in that building? In the meantime nasa has called a press conference, this can get ugly very quickly. Already someone on tv said its extrajudicial killing without any facts.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 04:11:56 PM
I think they did - but nobody was listening - Juma was killed by thugs who at that time were terrorizing people in Kilimani-hurlingam. The thugs were later killed in Nyayo stadium and recovered AK47 matched the one that killed juma. The same thug had kidnapped Matiba daughter, Belgium embassy official and etc.
How?  We had more information on Juma's movements complete with videos and yet the police have not told us who killed him.  If you are relying on the Kenya police to solve this cold blood murder conducted by the same people who ran this government then you are really naïve.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: einstein_g on July 31, 2017, 04:14:30 PM
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Where's marshals building on harambee ave. and what's in that building? In the meantime nasa has called a press conference, this can get ugly very quickly. Already someone on tv said its extrajudicial killing without any facts.

What could make it uglier is a call for protests...
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kichwa on July 31, 2017, 04:19:43 PM
Dear Kenyans, this is the METHOD to the MADNESS.

After Raila Odinga exposed Jubilee for using Military to rig the elections, Wiliam Ruto treated us to a sugoi afro cinema with a man with machete shooting RECCE squad, IEBC in the meantime printed one million ballots in a move that is seen to be very suspicious and then today ICT manager for IEBC suddenly goes missing.
 These are the clear signs of a rigged election. Mimi sijui mnangoja nini. The system is rigged.... :)

 A short while back, James Muhati who was the ICT Director at IEBC was sent on 30 days compulsory leave for alleged sabotage and following his removal, Chris Msando was assigned as the acting ICT Director.
 However, besides the presence of knowledgeable ICT professionals in the commission and the presence of Msando as the acting ICT Director, IEBC further 'contracted' Alex Kioni as an external IT security consultant.
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 Alex Kioni used to work for IBM East Africa as a cyber security manager but resigned following the discovery by IBM that he had a private IT security company called Chalbi Business Solutions Limited which he was using to divert some of IBM's clients and work to.
 In the course of his contract at IEBC, Alex has since advised for (1) The database to be secured using the Oracle system, which essentially locks the data therein, and blocks unauthorized access and (2) Protection of the network through IBM Q-reader system that creates a firewall that monitors/safeguards IP addresses. These two measures essentially mean that the IEBC systems are 'technically' ring-fenced from outside access, and can only be manipulated from inside by a person with the access codes or specific user rights.
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 With James Muhatia's compulsory leave due to end AFTER the coming elections; plans and pressure have been underway from the powers that be to have IEBC replace Chris Msando (the acting IEBC ICT director who is reported to have gone missing) by hiring Alex Kioni on a permanent basis. Whereas Chris equally has the technological know-how to oversee the securing of IEBC systems and is said to have been the man behind the new IEBC KIEMS hack-proof system, he is perceived to be from one of the 'non-friendly' tribes and does not therefore automatically fit in the ongoing grand scheme of rigging plans.
 Alex Kioni is a son to Jeremiah Kioni, the former MP for Ndaragwa (the man who lied to Mudavadi in the last elections) and is therefore deemed to have the right technical skills and uthamaki advantage to help perpetrate the rigging plans by facilitating the manipulation of IEBC data from inside.
 Although Alex Kioni quit employment at IBM East Africa in acrimony, he has since patched his relationship with the company's management because (1) he is giving them very good business through the purchase of the IBM Q-reader system from the company and
 (2) Nicholas, the IBM director went to school with Uhuru Kenyatta at the prestigious St. Mary's schools and is therefore keen to cover his old-boy's back.
 With the IEBC system auditing set to commerce tomorrow, one can't help but link Msando's disappearance to the exercise or worse still to the elevation of Alex as the new IEBC ICT Director.

 By Eric Ochanji II
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kichwa on July 31, 2017, 04:25:34 PM
Pundit.  Is that what you call Kalenjin Stoicism?.

Here is Wikipedia on stoicism.

The endurance of pain or hardship without a display of feelings and without complaint.

synonyms: patience, forbearance, resignation, fortitude, endurance, acceptance, tolerance, phlegm

eg."she accepted her sufferings with remarkable stoicism"


I think they did - but nobody was listening - Juma was killed by thugs who at that time were terrorizing people in Kilimani-hurlingam. The thugs were later killed in Nyayo stadium and recovered AK47 matched the one that killed juma. The same thug had kidnapped Matiba daughter, Belgium embassy official and etc.
How?  We had more information on Juma's movements complete with videos and yet the police have not told us who killed him.  If you are relying on the Kenya police to solve this cold blood murder conducted by the same people who ran this government then you are really naïve.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 04:30:08 PM
It a sign of lack of intelligence and honesty to spin a yarn out of very little information. I like to dispassionately examine facts and let facts only lead me to the truth. Not creating your own facts. You can speculate but make that explicit...that you're speculating. Or simply wait for facts...that can narrow down your "creative universe".  By tomorrow we will know a lot more from 1) police 2) the morgue 2) the family 3)friends 4) iebcs...and slowly we can narrow down to plausible theories. That is how I operate. Not like mad man Omollo or you - who already knows for sure who killed Musando.

Juma was killed by the Nyayo Stadium thugs - who were tagging folks in exact area he was passing that night.
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2016/05/23/slain-kidnap-suspects-carjacked-matibas-daughter-for-ransom_c1355509
Pundit.  Is that what you call Kalenjin Stoicism?.

Here is Wikipedia on stoicism.

The endurance of pain or hardship without a display of feelings and without complaint.

synonyms: patience, forbearance, resignation, fortitude, endurance, acceptance, tolerance, phlegm

eg."she accepted her sufferings with remarkable stoicism"

Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Omollo on July 31, 2017, 04:38:11 PM
I can only wonder aloud whether those near this guy can not see he's put his pants on the head!

Pundit, what evidence linked the thugs shot dead to Juma? The police said the same CALIBRE of bullets found at the Juma crime scene were the same the thugs shot the police with and you bought that hook liner and sinker.

Here is the problem (first clearly explained by Puakal):

1. There were NO BULLETS or Cartridges at the Juma scene
2. The Police later discovered the spent cartridges several days later in the very places they had searched with special equipment (metal detectors) and failed to find
3. Empty cartridges cannot link to crimes unless there are fingerprints or some unique feature(s) such as the brand being the only one to which the suspect had access. But that was not the case in this matter. Nothing distinguished the cartridges or linked them even circumstantially to the dead "suspects". Even if it did, the fact that the Juma cartridges were found several days after the scene of crime had been contaminated mean only a total Jubilee sycophant can believe that story.
I think they did - but nobody was listening - Juma was killed by thugs who at that time were terrorizing people in Kilimani-hurlingam. The thugs were later killed in Nyayo stadium and recovered AK47 matched the one that killed juma. The same thug had kidnapped Matiba daughter, Belgium embassy official and etc.
How?  We had more information on Juma's movements complete with videos and yet the police have not told us who killed him.  If you are relying on the Kenya police to solve this cold blood murder conducted by the same people who ran this government then you are really naïve.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 04:38:23 PM
Marshall I know is opposite shell -now- Ruto office. I don't think there is any bar or hotel there. I know there used to be CBK's Anti-Bank Fraud there.
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Where's marshals building on harambee ave. and what's in that building? In the meantime nasa has called a press conference, this can get ugly very quickly. Already someone on tv said its extrajudicial killing without any facts.

What could make it uglier is a call for protests...
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Omollo on July 31, 2017, 04:40:42 PM
Interesting
Marshall I know is opposite shell -now- Ruto's office. I don't think there is any bar or hotel there. I know there used to be CBK's Anti-Bank Fraud there.
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Where's marshals building on harambee ave. and what's in that building? In the meantime nasa has called a press conference, this can get ugly very quickly. Already someone on tv said its extrajudicial killing without any facts.

What could make it uglier is a call for protests...
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 04:41:30 PM
You're not a ballistic expert - so quit acting like one. Those thugs who were killed in Nyayo stadium were kidnapping and robbing people in precisely the places Juma was passing. They had kidnapped high-profile victims like Matiba daughter and wazungu. The gun & bullet matched Juma's. You choose what you believe. But I believe Juma was kidnap gone awry.
I can only wonder aloud whether those near this guy can not see he's put his pants on the head!

Pundit, what evidence linked the thugs shot dead to Juma? The police said the same CALIBRE of bullets found at the Juma crime scene were the same the thugs shot the police with and you bought that hook liner and sinker.

Here is the problem (first clearly explained by Puakal):

1. There were NO BULLETS or Cartridges at the Juma scene
2. The Police later discovered the spent cartridges several days later in the very places they had searched with special equipment (metal detectors) and failed to find
3. Empty cartridges cannot link to crimes unless there are fingerprints or some unique feature(s) such as the brand being the only one to which the suspect had access. But that was not the case in this matter. Nothing distinguished the cartridges or linked them even circumstantially to the dead "suspects". Even if it did, the fact that the Juma cartridges were found several days after the scene of crime had been contaminated mean only a total Jubilee sycophant can believe that story.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 04:42:09 PM
Yeah now revise your yarn and include Ruto.
Interesting
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Post by: Omollo on July 31, 2017, 04:42:39 PM
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Post by: Omollo on July 31, 2017, 04:56:27 PM
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Post by: Omollo on July 31, 2017, 05:06:58 PM
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kichwa on July 31, 2017, 05:08:08 PM
Pundit:  Admit it-you are just shackled by your stoic support for ouruto, MOAS and your past utterances denying the obvious.  I would not describe  that as intelligence and honesty but a man who is held hostage by his own opinions and cannot change his mind even when confronted with overwhelming evidence.

It a sign of lack of intelligence and honesty to spin a yarn out of very little information. I like to dispassionately examine facts and let facts only lead me to the truth. Not creating your own facts. You can speculate but make that explicit...that you're speculating. Or simply wait for facts...that can narrow down your "creative universe".  By tomorrow we will know a lot more from 1) police 2) the morgue 2) the family 3)friends 4) iebcs...and slowly we can narrow down to plausible theories. That is how I operate. Not like mad man Omollo or you - who already knows for sure who killed Musando.

Juma was killed by the Nyayo Stadium thugs - who were tagging folks in exact area he was passing that night.
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2016/05/23/slain-kidnap-suspects-carjacked-matibas-daughter-for-ransom_c1355509
Pundit.  Is that what you call Kalenjin Stoicism?.

Here is Wikipedia on stoicism.

The endurance of pain or hardship without a display of feelings and without complaint.

synonyms: patience, forbearance, resignation, fortitude, endurance, acceptance, tolerance, phlegm

eg."she accepted her sufferings with remarkable stoicism"

Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on July 31, 2017, 05:21:21 PM
I change my mind a lot. Based on facts. For instance I initially defended Shollei until I read Muthama hse was sold via Donald - and I knew for a fact she was involved. Before that I had not see any linkage. You can check even on Ruto shooting - I kept changing my mind - as more information comes. For now we know Musando was murdered. Let wait for more facts..
Pundit:  Admit it-you are just shackled by your stoic support for ouruto, MOAS and your past utterances denying the obvious.  I would not describe  that as intelligence and honesty but a man who is held hostage by his own opinions and cannot change his mind even when confronted with overwhelming evidence.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: vooke on July 31, 2017, 05:30:42 PM
It is sad when a man is murdered and his family is subjected to LIES suggesting he was a lecher, cheat and adulterer. You participate in spreading the shit without asking for proof.

If a woman is found close to the body or even lying under it, does it mean anything? But publishing and repeating the information has the purpose of making insinuations of turpitude and character failings in order to indict, denigrate and humiliate the individual posthumously.

The story of lechery and debauchery emerged yesterday - even as NIS contacts informed NASA that the EJK squad of Muhoro had kidnapped Musando. It was amplified when his car was found - again without evidence.

Now he is found "with a dead woman".

Now we hear of a "love triangle". It sounds like am reading a modern day version of East of Eden. May be Musando too "had some problems in Boston"

When sms is exchanged and then the phone is found missing and the owner dead, how do we continue talking about that as proof of him having been alive and aware of the itinerary or the pope? For all I care, the killers sent the sms.

Who sends smses at 3am on a saturday? To whom did he send it and why was it important to sendit? Is it standard practice to send smses and if so at 3am?

People have moved away from sms to other platforms and it is almost universal. The people still in sms and still monitoring the same are NIS and old generation crap who still think the world revolves around sms.

We've heard one too many jokers who disappear only to resurface drugged the last one being Chege 'Fresh' a Jubilee aspirant for Kabete during the primaries. Before that there was an MCA from Embu. My assumption was this was no different.

Now that he's dead, it don't matter if he was molesting his own kids, focus is not on his life/character but his death.

Still, only a fool would rule out everything but IEBC in attempting to solve the crime.

Omorlo, you of all the people cleared the pop assassination theory of Ouko and settled for love triangle. Why is it implausible that any other motive would be behind this?

Simple; IEBC is the hottest currency at the moment, and as sure as hell NASWA will milk it. But they can't milk bootleg blowjobs
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: vooke on July 31, 2017, 05:34:08 PM
Dear Kenyans, this is the METHOD to the MADNESS.

After Raila Odinga exposed Jubilee for using Military to rig the elections, Wiliam Ruto treated us to a sugoi afro cinema with a man with machete shooting RECCE squad, IEBC in the meantime printed one million ballots in a move that is seen to be very suspicious and then today ICT manager for IEBC suddenly goes missing.
 These are the clear signs of a rigged election. Mimi sijui mnangoja nini. The system is rigged.... :)

 A short while back, James Muhati who was the ICT Director at IEBC was sent on 30 days compulsory leave for alleged sabotage and following his removal, Chris Msando was assigned as the acting ICT Director.
 However, besides the presence of knowledgeable ICT professionals in the commission and the presence of Msando as the acting ICT Director, IEBC further 'contracted' Alex Kioni as an external IT security consultant.
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 Alex Kioni used to work for IBM East Africa as a cyber security manager but resigned following the discovery by IBM that he had a private IT security company called Chalbi Business Solutions Limited which he was using to divert some of IBM's clients and work to.
 In the course of his contract at IEBC, Alex has since advised for (1) The database to be secured using the Oracle system, which essentially locks the data therein, and blocks unauthorized access and (2) Protection of the network through IBM Q-reader system that creates a firewall that monitors/safeguards IP addresses. These two measures essentially mean that the IEBC systems are 'technically' ring-fenced from outside access, and can only be manipulated from inside by a person with the access codes or specific user rights.
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 With James Muhatia's compulsory leave due to end AFTER the coming elections; plans and pressure have been underway from the powers that be to have IEBC replace Chris Msando (the acting IEBC ICT director who is reported to have gone missing) by hiring Alex Kioni on a permanent basis. Whereas Chris equally has the technological know-how to oversee the securing of IEBC systems and is said to have been the man behind the new IEBC KIEMS hack-proof system, he is perceived to be from one of the 'non-friendly' tribes and does not therefore automatically fit in the ongoing grand scheme of rigging plans.
 Alex Kioni is a son to Jeremiah Kioni, the former MP for Ndaragwa (the man who lied to Mudavadi in the last elections) and is therefore deemed to have the right technical skills and uthamaki advantage to help perpetrate the rigging plans by facilitating the manipulation of IEBC data from inside.
 Although Alex Kioni quit employment at IBM East Africa in acrimony, he has since patched his relationship with the company's management because (1) he is giving them very good business through the purchase of the IBM Q-reader system from the company and
 (2) Nicholas, the IBM director went to school with Uhuru Kenyatta at the prestigious St. Mary's schools and is therefore keen to cover his old-boy's back.
 With the IEBC system auditing set to commerce tomorrow, one can't help but link Msando's disappearance to the exercise or worse still to the elevation of Alex as the new IEBC ICT Director.

 By Eric Ochanji II

Jeremiah Kioni has no son by that name.

Is it possible to check bullshiet before spewing it, AMA it's an addiction?


Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kichwa on July 31, 2017, 07:10:48 PM
You probably have  changed your mind on small inconsequential matters but this is at the core of your political stand and I doubt if nothing short of  herculean amount of evidence will sway you. Reminds me of the ancient story of two great friends who when the other died, the remaining friend refused to believe his friend was dead until the body started rotting.

I change my mind a lot. Based on facts. For instance I initially defended Shollei until I read Muthama hse was sold via Donald - and I knew for a fact she was involved. Before that I had not see any linkage. You can check even on Ruto shooting - I kept changing my mind - as more information comes. For now we know Musando was murdered. Let wait for more facts..
Pundit:  Admit it-you are just shackled by your stoic support for ouruto, MOAS and your past utterances denying the obvious.  I would not describe  that as intelligence and honesty but a man who is held hostage by his own opinions and cannot change his mind even when confronted with overwhelming evidence.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Omollo on July 31, 2017, 08:40:42 PM
One does not have to be a ballistic expert to question simple facts. Judges who decide on matters and advocates who contest ballistic evidence are not themselves ballistic experts.

I do not need to be a ballistic expert to know that cartridges alone without anything else cannot be proof of two or more crimes being linked. Ballistic experts usually focus on bullets recovered from victims or at crime scenes (where there is additional evidence that they were part of the crime having being fired at the time in question).

Cartridges can be dusted for finger prints and DNA before being submitted for an examination for any marks or traits that can be linked to anybody or any gun. As evidence, cartridges on their own have extremely limited value.

That was the conclusion then and it so remains. If you have anything suggesting a closer link between the people murdered by the police and like you are doing to Musando - accused of all manner of crimes posthumously please lay it here or just go drink off your Ruto money.

What evidence did the police produce to back their claims of kidnapping?

Given their long history of telling LIES and having been found UNTRUTHFUL by kenyan and foreign courts, you would need a lot more evidence to make any body outside the current Jubilee government believe the empty unbacked and unsupported word of the Kenya Police.

You have nothing whatever to even speculate that Juma's was a kidnap gone awry.

You're not a ballistic expert - so quit acting like one. Those thugs who were killed in Nyayo stadium were kidnapping and robbing people in precisely the places Juma was passing. They had kidnapped high-profile victims like Matiba daughter and wazungu. The gun & bullet matched Juma's. You choose what you believe. But I believe Juma was kidnap gone awry.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: einstein_g on August 01, 2017, 03:15:52 AM
I hate to speculate but we shouldn't discount the possibility that the murder wasn't related to elections. The police have a decent chance of nabbing the culprits given the attention the case has garnered.
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Police told the Star that CCTV cameras captured Msando’s car thrice. Footage shows him leaving his Anniversary Towers office at 20.50 last Friday.

Other footage captured the vehicle along Mombasa Road at 2.14am on Saturday.

The vehicle was seen again at Pangani Ring Road at 2.49 Saturday, 11 minutes before Msando sent an SMS to a colleague.

The vehicle is seen joining Thika Road, then it disappeared.

Watchmen at the flats behind Safari Park told police Msando drove into the compound at .11am Saturday, with a woman.

They parked outside and entered a house.

The watchmen did not know which house. They said there was no one else in the car.

The two did not leave the house, police sources aid.

On Saturday, 11.20, police in Kikuyu received information about the naked body of a man found in the bush. They collected the body and drove to city mortuary.

Minutes later, the body of a woman was found five metres from Msando's body.

Police wait for return of the vehicle that had transported the man's body. They loaded the woman's body that was booked at the mortuary at 12.20 pm on Saturday.

Msando and his wife Eve Auma spoke at least thrice on the phone last Friday.

Their last communication was at 11.18pm when Msando called to say he was heading home, according to the police investigators.

http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/08/01/who-killed-msando-chebukati-demands_c1607888
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on August 01, 2017, 05:47:58 AM
Interesting.Thanks Jubilee for rolling out the security cameras.Should be easy to nab the culprits..by checking those cameras and phones.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Globalcitizen12 on August 01, 2017, 06:30:13 AM
I bet you than man abducted from several bars in the area. There is certain violent tribe that it's police used to hang in this area back in the 1990s..those were days when moi terror gangs had every one under submission..if this is political murder there is only one group capable of such callous murder
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on August 01, 2017, 07:47:52 AM
Come up again.
I bet you than man abducted from several bars in the area. There is certain violent tribe that it's police used to hang in this area back in the 1990s..those were days when moi terror gangs had every one under submission..if this is political murder there is only one group capable of such callous murder
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: einstein_g on August 01, 2017, 12:28:59 PM
The woman and Musando had known each other for a few months. She had told her sister at 7 pm that she was going out for drinks with him.

We're going to get to the bottom of this very soon.

http://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/heres-woman-killed-alongside-chris-msando-night-photos/
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on August 01, 2017, 01:24:26 PM
From Gachie - that is no good :( most of the thugs are from Gachie. Msando was with her 21yr old mpango wa Kando.
The woman and Musando had known each other for a few months. She had told her sister at 7 pm that she was going out for drinks with him.

We're going to get to the bottom of this very soon.

http://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/heres-woman-killed-alongside-chris-msando-night-photos/
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RVtitem on August 01, 2017, 04:11:58 PM
I believe the war at WSR was meant to scare voters while the ICT manager murder was meant to scare IEBC to submission. Jubilee want to win by all means possible.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 01, 2017, 05:18:39 PM
I believe the war at WSR was meant to scare voters while the ICT manager murder was meant to scare IEBC to submission. Jubilee want to win by all means possible.

Sugoi was a circus if any of the stories we are being told are true.  Msando was likely a message to IEBC.  They seem to have received it clearly, going by their body language on news media.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Omollo on August 01, 2017, 06:39:34 PM
Termie

We know what went down at Sugoi.

Uthamaki needed an excuse to do a numbgers of things:

1. To enter and retrieve "something" from Ruto's home
2. Create an excuse to place him under massive surveillance

All those objectives were achieved.

Take note the 5 hour after the siege, The IG (who was not in on the plan being a Ruto man) issued a statement saying it was all over. The forces did not move. Instead they continued the "shootout" with a man the IG said had been killed and that he had no gun - just a panga.

The mission was not over. They could not leave. So they stayed there for another 12 hours.

If you believe that there was an al shabaab commando etc then you have to first explain the IG's statement.

There was deliberate media disinformation. What surprised me is how the Jubilee / Uthamaki journalists arrived there so fast and were even in time to record the arrival of the backup forces who have the capacity to arrive earlier. All police choppers' arrival was filmed and reported live. I thought journalists arrive late and after the police? These ones arrived way before the emergency services!

They reported that they had seen three dead bodies. Has anybody heard of it after ward?

Even vooke has started doubting some of the crap except the part on the Ballistic Missile-Firing Panga :D. He is still standing by that one!

Only one person has decided to take leave of his working portion of his brain as we approach the election: R. V. Pundit
 
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Omollo on August 01, 2017, 06:51:42 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGJ37qUXsAAKQDI.jpg)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGJ37qYXUAEwR9O.jpg)
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: vooke on August 01, 2017, 07:15:41 PM
The Standard's account of the cameras is quite different.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: einstein_g on August 01, 2017, 07:26:48 PM
The Standard's account of the cameras is quite different.

When I read the standard account, it felt false to me for some reason, especially contradicted with the fact that the watchmen at TRM saw just two people in the car, and Msando's 3 am text message.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: einstein_g on August 01, 2017, 07:32:45 PM
One way of trying to solve this issue would be to scan *all* vehicle registrations in all plausible routes from Roysambu to Kikuyu from 2 am to 9 am. Pick out the vehicles that were both in the Roysambu/Thika Rd area, and somewhere near Kikuyu (Waiyaki way etc).

If we were to go with what the security guys said, the vehicle entered the block of flats but didn't leave. They probably left in a different car then.

These security cameras are neat, we need more. And they should flag vehicles that have the number plate obscured in some way.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 01, 2017, 07:40:24 PM
This is the usual narrative to make him look bad by highlighting the fact that he was a normal functioning man with testosterone.  Says a lot of nothing using many words.  Do they know who took and shared the pictures online?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGJ37qUXsAAKQDI.jpg)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGJ37qYXUAEwR9O.jpg)
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: vooke on August 02, 2017, 12:04:18 AM
This is the usual narrative to make him look bad by highlighting the fact that he was a normal functioning man with testosterone.  Says a lot of nothing using many words.  Do they know who took and shared the pictures online?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGJ37qUXsAAKQDI.jpg)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGJ37qYXUAEwR9O.jpg)
Yep, they should have redacted that 21yr young bit; it's a distraction
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: hk on August 02, 2017, 06:52:55 AM
So the guy had a second wife in roysambu? http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Detectives-retrace-Chris-Msando-s-final-steps-/1056-4041556-gn11lkz/index.html And if the girlfriend /wife isn't ngumbu how did they end up together? This thing could be just a love triangle.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: RV Pundit on August 02, 2017, 08:04:16 AM
Or the iebc supplier.Most likely a love quadrangle..wife.. second wife and mpango.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 02, 2017, 06:29:07 PM
Termie

We know what went down at Sugoi.

Uthamaki needed an excuse to do a numbgers of things:

1. To enter and retrieve "something" from Ruto's home
2. Create an excuse to place him under massive surveillance

All those objectives were achieved.

Take note the 5 hour after the siege, The IG (who was not in on the plan being a Ruto man) issued a statement saying it was all over. The forces did not move. Instead they continued the "shootout" with a man the IG said had been killed and that he had no gun - just a panga.

The mission was not over. They could not leave. So they stayed there for another 12 hours.

If you believe that there was an al shabaab commando etc then you have to first explain the IG's statement.

There was deliberate media disinformation. What surprised me is how the Jubilee / Uthamaki journalists arrived there so fast and were even in time to record the arrival of the backup forces who have the capacity to arrive earlier. All police choppers' arrival was filmed and reported live. I thought journalists arrive late and after the police? These ones arrived way before the emergency services!

They reported that they had seen three dead bodies. Has anybody heard of it after ward?

Even vooke has started doubting some of the crap except the part on the Ballistic Missile-Firing Panga :D . He is still standing by that one!

Only one person has decided to take leave of his working portion of his brain as we approach the election: R. V. Pundit
 

I missed this one.  I think this forum is moving too fast to what I am used to for the past few years.

Good points.  If you believe Al-shabaab is involved, then you probably find Nollywood movies realistic.  As soon as I realize the IG and the rest are lying, I just zone them out and try to see if there are better sources of finding the information.

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Even vooke has started doubting some of the crap except the part on the Ballistic Missile-Firing Panga :D . He is still standing by that one!

It's apparent you have some dry wit.  You should use that more often.  The presence of a nuclear tipped ICBM launching panga was the only thing remotely possible in that entire narrative.


Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: vooke on August 03, 2017, 11:11:40 AM
Tenders, love triangle being explored as possible motives
http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2017/08/03/msando-was-tortured-strangled-to-death-postmortem-reveals_c1609376

Standard reported CCTV captured him in presence of an IEBC contractor who for some reasons is not being named

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001250112/chris-msando-was-tortured-and-strangled-postmortem-shows
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: vooke on August 04, 2017, 09:14:26 PM
Some development on cracking the case

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The Uganda Police Flying Squad have intercepted a car in which suspected killers of Kenyan Deputy Director at the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC), Christopher Chege Msando were travelling.

The vehicle, a Toyota Fortuner, with Ugandan registration number plates; UAX 311E was intercepted at Pabbo Sub-county, Amuru District in northern Uganda, on Friday afternoon.

Three suspects, a Kenyan national and two Ugandans have been detained.

 The suspects have been identified as Mathew Butia a Kenyan national, and Mr Joseph Okongo and Moses Goloba both Ugandans.

It is reported that the suspects entered Uganda through Malaba border post in Tororo District and were heading to Juba, the capital of South Sudan.

Source-Nyakundi
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Nefertiti on August 04, 2017, 10:34:10 PM
Omollo - so Uhuru broke into Ruto's house to gather evidence of an intended coup, unshared loot or what???? This is more laughable than the machete-launched ICBM story.

Termie

We know what went down at Sugoi.

Uthamaki needed an excuse to do a numbgers of things:

1. To enter and retrieve "something" from Ruto's home
2. Create an excuse to place him under massive surveillance

All those objectives were achieved.

Take note the 5 hour after the siege, The IG (who was not in on the plan being a Ruto man) issued a statement saying it was all over. The forces did not move. Instead they continued the "shootout" with a man the IG said had been killed and that he had no gun - just a panga.

The mission was not over. They could not leave. So they stayed there for another 12 hours.

If you believe that there was an al shabaab commando etc then you have to first explain the IG's statement.

There was deliberate media disinformation. What surprised me is how the Jubilee / Uthamaki journalists arrived there so fast and were even in time to record the arrival of the backup forces who have the capacity to arrive earlier. All police choppers' arrival was filmed and reported live. I thought journalists arrive late and after the police? These ones arrived way before the emergency services!

They reported that they had seen three dead bodies. Has anybody heard of it after ward?

Even vooke has started doubting some of the crap except the part on the Ballistic Missile-Firing Panga :D. He is still standing by that one!

Only one person has decided to take leave of his working portion of his brain as we approach the election: R. V. Pundit
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 05, 2017, 05:16:34 AM
Omollo - so Uhuru broke into Ruto's house to gather evidence of an intended coup, unshared loot or what???? This is more laughable than the machete-launched ICBM story.

Termie

We know what went down at Sugoi.

Uthamaki needed an excuse to do a numbgers of things:

1. To enter and retrieve "something" from Ruto's home
2. Create an excuse to place him under massive surveillance

All those objectives were achieved.

Take note the 5 hour after the siege, The IG (who was not in on the plan being a Ruto man) issued a statement saying it was all over. The forces did not move. Instead they continued the "shootout" with a man the IG said had been killed and that he had no gun - just a panga.

The mission was not over. They could not leave. So they stayed there for another 12 hours.

If you believe that there was an al shabaab commando etc then you have to first explain the IG's statement.

There was deliberate media disinformation. What surprised me is how the Jubilee / Uthamaki journalists arrived there so fast and were even in time to record the arrival of the backup forces who have the capacity to arrive earlier. All police choppers' arrival was filmed and reported live. I thought journalists arrive late and after the police? These ones arrived way before the emergency services!

They reported that they had seen three dead bodies. Has anybody heard of it after ward?

Even vooke has started doubting some of the crap except the part on the Ballistic Missile-Firing Panga :D . He is still standing by that one!

Only one person has decided to take leave of his working portion of his brain as we approach the election: R. V. Pundit

And that is why vooke has latched onto the machete theory like a cheap suit on a pimp and won't let it go.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Nefertiti on August 05, 2017, 09:06:14 AM
- vooke will outlive God to have the last word - we accept and move on.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: vooke on August 05, 2017, 12:31:29 PM
Some development on cracking the case

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The Uganda Police Flying Squad have intercepted a car in which suspected killers of Kenyan Deputy Director at the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC), Christopher Chege Msando were travelling.

The vehicle, a Toyota Fortuner, with Ugandan registration number plates; UAX 311E was intercepted at Pabbo Sub-county, Amuru District in northern Uganda, on Friday afternoon.

Three suspects, a Kenyan national and two Ugandans have been detained.

 The suspects have been identified as Mathew Butia a Kenyan national, and Mr Joseph Okongo and Moses Goloba both Ugandans.

It is reported that the suspects entered Uganda through Malaba border post in Tororo District and were heading to Juba, the capital of South Sudan.

Source-Nyakundi

Story confirmed by nation

The vehicle had number plates of a Benz that belongs to a politician.

Why not name him?

http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Three-arrested-Uganda--Msando-murder/3126390-4045690-124yl09z/index.html
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 05, 2017, 03:30:46 PM
Some development on cracking the case

Quote
The Uganda Police Flying Squad have intercepted a car in which suspected killers of Kenyan Deputy Director at the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC), Christopher Chege Msando were travelling.

The vehicle, a Toyota Fortuner, with Ugandan registration number plates; UAX 311E was intercepted at Pabbo Sub-county, Amuru District in northern Uganda, on Friday afternoon.

Three suspects, a Kenyan national and two Ugandans have been detained.

 The suspects have been identified as Mathew Butia a Kenyan national, and Mr Joseph Okongo and Moses Goloba both Ugandans.

It is reported that the suspects entered Uganda through Malaba border post in Tororo District and were heading to Juba, the capital of South Sudan.

Source-Nyakundi

Story confirmed by nation

The vehicle had number plates of a Benz that belongs to a politician.

Why not name him?

http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Three-arrested-Uganda--Msando-murder/3126390-4045690-124yl09z/index.html

Because the story is fake.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kichwa on August 05, 2017, 03:49:37 PM
I do not trust the police in this case because it appears they are part of the cover up. Mara love triangle, mara tender deals gone bad and now bad Ugandan hombres. I wish they accepted the FBI and the Scotland Yard offers.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on August 05, 2017, 03:53:53 PM
I do not trust the police in this case because it appears they are part of the cover up. Mara love triangle, mara tender deals gone bad and now bad Ugandan hombres. I wish they accepted the FBI and the Scotland Yard offers.

My fake news sensors are activated when I read a story that feeds wild speculation without informing.
Title: Re: IEBC IT manager is confirmed dead
Post by: vooke on August 05, 2017, 07:32:40 PM
I do not trust the police in this case because it appears they are part of the cover up. Mara love triangle, mara tender deals gone bad and now bad Ugandan hombres. I wish they accepted the FBI and the Scotland Yard offers.
Those are accounts you are reading from the media. You should treat anything they say especially without quoting sources as suspect. On this account, they have quoted Ugandan police, given specific name of the police as well as suspects.

I don't know who said FBI or Scotland Yard offered to help