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Jomo family joins long list of those who eyed Naboth's vineyard
« on: October 10, 2014, 09:44:27 AM »


O, kings and beautiful vineyards. And the king's assistants said Aye! The Ayes have it.

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Kenyatta-family-feuds-over-land/-/1056/2481062/-/k43bwb/-/index.html
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Re: Jomo family joins long list of those who eyed Naboth's vineyard
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2014, 02:08:06 PM »
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Could you add the end of Jezebel?
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Re: Jomo family joins long list of those who eyed Naboth's vineyard
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2014, 03:26:48 PM »
Dogs will eatBecause he has humbled himself, I will not bring this disaster in his day
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Re: Jomo family joins long list of those who eyed Naboth's vineyard
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2014, 03:42:31 PM »
Thank you very much DB. I have some troubling questions:

1. Why does Jezebel put on make up, groom her hair and generally make herself beautiful? Is she looking to cut some kind of "deal" with Jehu?

2. I am not sure but either Jezebel or some other evil character had the body shared by vultures sent from heaven. Could you help?
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Re: Jomo family joins long list of those who eyed Naboth's vineyard
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2014, 03:54:09 PM »
I have no answers except that which has already been written.

http://text.egwwritings.org/publication.php?pubtype=Book&bookCode=ECE&pagenumber=456
Thank you very much DB. I have some troubling questions:

1. Why does Jezebel put on make up, groom her hair and generally make herself beautiful? Is she looking to cut some kind of "deal" with Jehu?

2. I am not sure but either Jezebel or some other evil character had the body shared by vultures sent from heaven. Could you help?
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Jomo family joins long list of those who eyed Naboth's vineyard
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2014, 04:00:00 PM »
It would appear that even Mzee's Gatundu land was grabbed.
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Re: Jomo family joins long list of those who eyed Naboth's vineyard
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2014, 04:02:44 PM »
Didn't kamwana tell ICC that he is landless?  What section of the constitution grants kamwana immunity from the law?
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However, in opposition to the suit, Mama Ngina Kenyatta says that Mr Mungai is full of conjecture.

Together with her son Uhuru, she says the claim cannot be continued since the law grants immunity to a sitting president.
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Re: Jomo family joins long list of those who eyed Naboth's vineyard
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2014, 04:07:57 PM »
Kenyan law protects a sitting president from prosecution but not from eyeing Naboth's vineyard.
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Re: Jomo family joins long list of those who eyed Naboth's vineyard
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2014, 04:14:16 PM »
But it does not extend to Mama Ngina.

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Protection from legal proceedings.
143. (1)
Criminal proceedings shall not be instituted or continued in any court against the President or a person performing the functions of that office, during their tenure of office.

(2) Civil proceedings shall not be instituted in any court against the President or the person performing the functions of that office during their tenure of office in respect of anything done or not done in the exercise of their powers under this Constitution.

(3) Where provision is made in law limiting the time within which proceedings under clause (1) or (2) may be brought against a person, a period of time during which the person holds or performs the functions of the office of the President shall not be taken into account in calculating the period of time prescribed by that law.

(4) The immunity of the President under this Article shall not extend to a crime for which the President may be prosecuted under any treaty to which Kenya is party and which prohibits such immunity.

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Re: Jomo family joins long list of those who eyed Naboth's vineyard
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2014, 04:20:19 PM »
But it does not extend to Mama Ngina.

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Protection from legal proceedings.
143. (1)
Criminal proceedings shall not be instituted or continued in any court against the President or a person performing the functions of that office, during their tenure of office.

(2) Civil proceedings shall not be instituted in any court against the President or the person performing the functions of that office during their tenure of office in respect of anything done or not done in the exercise of their powers under this Constitution.

(3) Where provision is made in law limiting the time within which proceedings under clause (1) or (2) may be brought against a person, a period of time during which the person holds or performs the functions of the office of the President shall not be taken into account in calculating the period of time prescribed by that law.

(4) The immunity of the President under this Article shall not extend to a crime for which the President may be prosecuted under any treaty to which Kenya is party and which prohibits such immunity.

Thanks.  Mama Ngina is probably pushing her luck as former first lady.  Or Queen mother.
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Re: Jomo family joins long list of those who eyed Naboth's vineyard
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2014, 04:27:48 PM »
I think the law should be changed. The president can be protected from frivolous litigation where the courts can decide which cases are a nuisance.
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Re: Jomo family joins long list of those who eyed Naboth's vineyard
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2014, 04:36:12 PM »
I think the law should be changed. The president can be protected from frivolous litigation where the courts can decide which cases are a nuisance.
I think he should only be protected from suits related to his functions as President. 
"I freed a thousand slaves.  I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

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