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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on February 16, 2018, 07:34:02 PM

Title: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: RV Pundit on February 16, 2018, 07:34:02 PM
Mediamax owns Kameme FM, Kameme TV, Pili pili FM, Meru FM, Mayian FM, Milele FM, People Daily, and K24 TV.

http://www.pulselive.co.ke/news/local/ruto-set-to-increase-his-shared-in-media-max-id7996433.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=art-ktns-zubeidah-kananu-gives-birth-02-16-2018&utm_term=news
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: RV Pundit on February 17, 2018, 09:39:34 AM
Toning down the rhetoric
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001270004/why-dp-ruto-has-toned-down-on-political-rhetoric
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: Empedocles on February 17, 2018, 12:45:24 PM
Don't know why but I'm still iffy whether Ruto will be "allowed" the presidency come 2022.
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: Pajero on February 17, 2018, 02:53:24 PM
Ruto's presidency hings on the kikuyu votes
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on February 17, 2018, 06:18:09 PM
Ruto's presidency hings on the kikuyu votes
They have the 2019 census to push Kalenjin numbers to tyrannical levels by themselves.  Who needs actual votes when they can be manufactured at the press of a few buttons?
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: Nefertiti on February 17, 2018, 07:08:24 PM
William Ruto is ascending the throne in slow motion. Some folks here will oppose reality to the end. Dude's just cut for it, too clever like a fox 8) Ati manufactured votes. I said it before: anyone can stand, not all can win. That's basically how it works.

Equality is a commodity. Very expensive.
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on February 17, 2018, 07:57:10 PM
William Ruto is ascending the throne in slow motion. Some folks here will oppose reality to the end. Dude's just cut for it, too clever like a fox 8) Ati manufactured votes. I said it before: anyone can stand, not all can win. That's basically how it works.

Equality is a commodity. Very expensive.
IEBC that had no inhibition in throwing information that nobody asked for at the SCOK for the October polls.  The same information it continues to withhold in defiance of a court order when it comes to August 8th. 

Why?  What's this vaunted reality?

The explanation is pretty obvious.
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: Nefertiti on February 17, 2018, 09:23:20 PM
William Ruto is ascending the throne in slow motion. Some folks here will oppose reality to the end. Dude's just cut for it, too clever like a fox 8) Ati manufactured votes. I said it before: anyone can stand, not all can win. That's basically how it works.

Equality is a commodity. Very expensive.

IEBC that had no inhibition in throwing information that nobody asked for at the SCOK for the October polls.  The same information it continues to withhold in defiance of a court order when it comes to August 8th. 

Why?  What's this vaunted reality?

The explanation is pretty obvious.

And NASA had a window to convince independents like myself there was rigging but failed. Instead they settled for technicality. It's all conjecture now. Ruto will not change the demographics in 2019. They generally haven't changed much except in Mandera. Those are your ghosts. He's building a winning coalition - using state machinery - while his archrival Odinga has no resources to match. It'll be checkmate real soon, unless Baba pulls a rabbit.
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: vooke on February 17, 2018, 09:33:08 PM
Ruto's presidency hings on the kikuyu votes
They have the 2019 census to push Kalenjin numbers to tyrannical levels by themselves.  Who needs actual votes when they can be manufactured at the press of a few buttons?

It is easier to pad few votes as opposed to many.
That’s why the ICC suspects pulled as many as 14 meetings in a single day.
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: RV Pundit on February 17, 2018, 10:54:22 PM
WSR is the ultimate schemer and this is it.Game on.All bases covered.Watch closely
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: Nefertiti on February 20, 2018, 11:46:51 PM
It seems Gema are keen on retaining lower... while Ruto favors babyface Eugene.

Plot for DP Ruto Running Mate Takes Shape
http://allafrica.com/stories/201802190655.html (http://allafrica.com/stories/201802190655.html)
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on February 21, 2018, 12:16:51 AM
It seems Gema are keen on retaining lower... while Ruto favors babyface Eugene.

Plot for DP Ruto Running Mate Takes Shape
http://allafrica.com/stories/201802190655.html (http://allafrica.com/stories/201802190655.html)

Hehehe...I have always thought babyface must be a distant relation of John Ngugi the distance runner.  Maybe a shared father.  In any case going with babyface would confirm what everybody knows.  That GEMA is a lost cause for Ruto.  As much as he has done for them, he stands a better chance winning votes among Luhyas than from GEMA.  That's how bad 2022 is looking.
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: RV Pundit on February 21, 2018, 07:52:42 AM
GEMA ni Uhuru and Uhuru will pick who becomes the VP. My money still on Mwangi Kiunjuri.
It seems Gema are keen on retaining lower... while Ruto favors babyface Eugene.

Plot for DP Ruto Running Mate Takes Shape
http://allafrica.com/stories/201802190655.html (http://allafrica.com/stories/201802190655.html)
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: hk on February 21, 2018, 10:05:38 AM
GEMA ni Uhuru and Uhuru will pick who becomes the VP. My money still on Mwangi Kiunjuri.

Ruto banned export of unprocessed nuts when he was minister of agriculture. If this ban isn't revoked by kiunjuri asap farmers in meru and central will revolt cause this is affecting their pockets https://www.nation.co.ke/business/Low-prices-and-export-ban-rule-drive-macadamia-farmers-nuts/996-4300044-k301p5/index.html . This year kenya has expelled more than 15 Chinese buyers who are paying higher prices. Reportedly the person behind this racket is Ruto and Wainana mp thika town. Uhuru will be challenged by farmers if this isn't rectified soon. The same thing they tried to do with avocado. Just like the dairy board is harassing small milk traders to force farmers to sell to processors.   
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: gout on February 21, 2018, 12:07:08 PM
Unless Uhuru will be on the ballot, I don't see how his in-disciplined self can bottle up GEMA in the next 1 year with nothing looking up. Continued drought and the debt will start having serious trickle down effect on businesses and individuals - how he is able to manage getting the masses toe the line is a miracle even for a few months. The MPs and some governors he can have under lock and key; the ground will be shifting as usual with reelections statistics.
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: RV Pundit on February 21, 2018, 01:22:30 PM
He will be the supreme leader of Jubilee - in the mold of Iran Ayatollah. As long as Uhuru does indicate he is retiring - no other GEMA leader can rise - and if they attempt - Uhuru will crash them. Uhuru will appoint a proxy to be Ruto deputy - but the deal will remain UhuRuto.
Unless Uhuru will be on the ballot, I don't see how his in-disciplined self can bottle up GEMA in the next 1 year with nothing looking up. Continued drought and the debt will start having serious trickle down effect on businesses and individuals - how he is able to manage getting the masses toe the line is a miracle even for a few months. The MPs and some governors he can have under lock and key; the ground will be shifting as usual with reelections statistics.
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: Kichwa on February 21, 2018, 05:44:40 PM
2017 was different from 2013 but there were similarities, however, the ground is set for 2022 being completely different from 2017 and therefore the 2013 models being used to project 2022 are null and void. If there is an election in 2022 it will be under a whole new electoral reforms with a completely different IEBC.   

He will be the supreme leader of Jubilee - in the mold of Iran Ayatollah. As long as Uhuru does indicate he is retiring - no other GEMA leader can rise - and if they attempt - Uhuru will crash them. Uhuru will appoint a proxy to be Ruto deputy - but the deal will remain UhuRuto.
Unless Uhuru will be on the ballot, I don't see how his in-disciplined self can bottle up GEMA in the next 1 year with nothing looking up. Continued drought and the debt will start having serious trickle down effect on businesses and individuals - how he is able to manage getting the masses toe the line is a miracle even for a few months. The MPs and some governors he can have under lock and key; the ground will be shifting as usual with reelections statistics.
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: Ole on February 21, 2018, 06:34:55 PM
2017 was different from 2013 but there were similarities, however, the ground is set for 2022 being completely different from 2017 and therefore the 2013 models being used to project 2022 are null and void. If there is an election in 2022 it will be under a whole new electoral reforms with a completely different IEBC.   

He will be the supreme leader of Jubilee - in the mold of Iran Ayatollah. As long as Uhuru does indicate he is retiring - no other GEMA leader can rise - and if they attempt - Uhuru will crash them. Uhuru will appoint a proxy to be Ruto deputy - but the deal will remain UhuRuto.
Unless Uhuru will be on the ballot, I don't see how his in-disciplined self can bottle up GEMA in the next 1 year with nothing looking up. Continued drought and the debt will start having serious trickle down effect on businesses and individuals - how he is able to manage getting the masses toe the line is a miracle even for a few months. The MPs and some governors he can have under lock and key; the ground will be shifting as usual with reelections statistics.

There won't be electoral reforms before 2022. opposition have to win the election overwhelmingly like NAK did in 2002. Anything less than that and jubilee will make sure that raila is sworn in as the people's president again.
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: RV Pundit on February 21, 2018, 06:42:07 PM
The way things are going - Kalonzo, MaDVD & even Wetangula may all be in Jubilee - so it very likely there will be little opposition going forward. As long as Raila insist on running - NASA remains KAPUT and WSR is more than assured of PORK. Once Raila change tact and become a king-maker - then he will be very dangerous and whoever Raila endorses will start off very strongly...but will Raila and Luo Nation accept the end of Raila?
There won't be electoral reforms before 2022. opposition have to win the election overwhelmingly like NAK did in 2002. Anything less than that and jubilee will make sure that raila is sworn in as the people's president again.
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: Nefertiti on February 21, 2018, 07:49:46 PM
Pipe dream. And WSR's too savvy to welcome any of the quarrelsome NASA principals to Jubilee. So long as Raila runs expect a clouded opposition field.

The way things are going - Kalonzo, MaDVD & even Wetangula may all be in Jubilee - so it very likely there will be little opposition going forward. As long as Raila insist on running - NASA remains KAPUT and WSR is more than assured of PORK. Once Raila change tact and become a king-maker - then he will be very dangerous and whoever Raila endorses will start off very strongly...but will Raila and Luo Nation accept the end of Raila?
Title: Re: Ruto 2022 bid - Buying the media
Post by: Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants on February 21, 2018, 08:55:43 PM
2017 was different from 2013 but there were similarities, however, the ground is set for 2022 being completely different from 2017 and therefore the 2013 models being used to project 2022 are null and void. If there is an election in 2022 it will be under a whole new electoral reforms with a completely different IEBC.   

He will be the supreme leader of Jubilee - in the mold of Iran Ayatollah. As long as Uhuru does indicate he is retiring - no other GEMA leader can rise - and if they attempt - Uhuru will crash them. Uhuru will appoint a proxy to be Ruto deputy - but the deal will remain UhuRuto.
Unless Uhuru will be on the ballot, I don't see how his in-disciplined self can bottle up GEMA in the next 1 year with nothing looking up. Continued drought and the debt will start having serious trickle down effect on businesses and individuals - how he is able to manage getting the masses toe the line is a miracle even for a few months. The MPs and some governors he can have under lock and key; the ground will be shifting as usual with reelections statistics.

How is IEBC going to be fixed given that the jubilant is convinced, against all evidence, it needs no fixing?  It looks like a dead end for credible national elections for the foreseeable future.