Author Topic: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely  (Read 1569 times)

Offline Njuri Ncheke

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 2692
  • Reputation: 5000
Re: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2024, 08:31:43 AM »
Dont forget they are  trying to link the gen z murder abductions with Merus,eti because Kindiki and Koome were there now entire community is complicit.
This is all fitting in the script as Ruto in a speech had said you can order a Meru to kill someone and they will ask reason later :D

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 38396
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2024, 09:00:34 AM »
Embu manyatta historically voted With kikuyus....kikyus are settled there too. Kirinyanga border is right in town.The rest voted kanu. Ruyenchenz to mbeeres will go kindiki.

Offline Nowayhaha

  • VIP
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 7495
  • Reputation: 5000
Re: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely
« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2024, 09:42:33 AM »

Kindiki is such a “nice person “no one can have beef with him , He is similar to Awori and Mudavadi . If it was war lord Linturi or foul mauth Munya yes there could be some friction . He has steered away from inciting Merus to Gikuyus which is what you are trying to stoke .
Kindiki is the type of person who tomorrow can decide to resign and go back to Academia and practicing law where he suits well.
Secondly Merus werw not at all excited with his selection why ? Because they dont subscribe to politics of betrayal . I will tell you honestly , if Ruto could have impeached Gachagua before joining hands with Raila then the results would have been different . The way it played out is reason why GEMA are even more united against Ruto now also Akamba joining hands .
As we near 2027 you will see out how it plays especially when violence props out in some parts of Rift Valley and Ruto eventually sidelines Kindiki  ala Kalonzo in 2013 and 2022



Noway why arent tou addresing the fact that they are Kikuyus insulting Merus because of Kindiki??and these are genuine Kikuyus because have gone through ther handles and they arent pro government some I know so this is not even a Ruto scheme have told you in a hotel in nairobi i came across a group so bitter with Merus because of Kindiki becoming a DP luckily my looks dont betray me and the women were vicious eti how Merus hawana akili they are killers and bla bla bla honestly,  ni wajinga mark you this were women i concluded maybe they had a Meru boyfriend that dumped them.

Offline Nowayhaha

  • VIP
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 7495
  • Reputation: 5000
Re: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2024, 09:44:03 AM »
No they are not . Impersonators like Githunguri trying to stoke some beef , never worked , wont work .

Now amongst the below who are inclined to support Nandi and who Gikuyu ?

Tigania,Imenti,Chuka,Igembe,Tharaka,Mwimbi



Merus despise Tharaka. The Embu incident says it.
How you confusing and contradicting..you say Merus despise tharaka then you say incident in Embu??????
Merus are Tigania,Imenti,Chuka,Igembe,Tharaka,Mwimbi thats what constitutes Meru. Embus are different and mostly will incline to Kikuyus from my analysis. Pundit Wife can confirm.  Of which we Merus wont have an option other than to deal with them first and squarely.
Noway please address whether the allegations have raised are true or false??are there kikuyus insulting Merus online and in social settings etc or not???

Offline Nowayhaha

  • VIP
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 7495
  • Reputation: 5000
Re: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely
« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2024, 09:49:26 AM »

Never have they voted KANU president , MP yes similar to ODM getting MP in Meru 2013 but President going to TNA


Embu manyatta historically voted With kikuyus....kikyus are settled there too. Kirinyanga border is right in town.The rest voted kanu. Ruyenchenz to mbeeres will go kindiki.

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 38396
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2024, 10:41:42 AM »
You dont challenge me on basic.
Manyatta - and Imentis used to vote opposition since 1992.
Tiganias, Igembes, Tharakas, Mbeere were KANU DAMU.
Both Mps and presidential candidate.
Moi use to win a lot in those dry poverty stricken areas.
They relie on relief food down there.
Very poor - not like the Embu -Manyattas or Imentis.
And there at least thousands of kikuyu settled in upper Embu.
Including deep in villages.

The attitude of meru and embu proper is similar to kikuyu attitude to kambas.
For the Embus - Mbeeres are poor witches;
For Meru Imenti - Tharakas are poor witches.

They only merged in 2007 - I believe the dry parts supported Uhuru.

Never have they voted KANU president , MP yes similar to ODM getting MP in Meru 2013 but President going to TNA

Offline Nowayhaha

  • VIP
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 7495
  • Reputation: 5000
Re: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2024, 11:17:03 AM »
Lies , no need of even replying …..


You dont challenge me on basic.
Manyatta - and Imentis used to vote opposition since 1992.
Tiganias, Igembes, Tharakas, Mbeere were KANU DAMU.
Both Mps and presidential candidate.
Moi use to win a lot in those dry poverty stricken areas.
They relie on relief food down there.
Very poor - not like the Embu -Manyattas or Imentis.
And there at least thousands of kikuyu settled in upper Embu.
Including deep in villages.

The attitude of meru and embu proper is similar to kikuyu attitude to kambas.
For the Embus - Mbeeres are poor witches;
For Meru Imenti - Tharakas are poor witches.

They only merged in 2007 - I believe the dry parts supported Uhuru.

Never have they voted KANU president , MP yes similar to ODM getting MP in Meru 2013 but President going to TNA

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 38396
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2024, 11:38:54 AM »
Read charles Hornsby  - political history - how do you think moi got 40% and 110 mps

Embu and Mbeere.
https://www.charleshornsby.com/kenya-blog/embu-and-mbeere-political-history

Meru
https://www.charleshornsby.com/kenya-blog/meru-political-history

Lies , no need of even replying …..

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 38396
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2024, 11:40:41 AM »
in 1992 - only Imentis went to oppositions - meru was in KANU

97 is DP won majoriy - KANU won 2

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 38396
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2024, 11:45:59 AM »
By 1999 - KANU added two - winning two by elections

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 38396
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely
« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2024, 11:47:48 AM »
Before 2002 election - KANU had upper hand

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 38396
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely
« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2024, 11:50:11 AM »
2002 Narc wave - only one KANU MP survive - 2-3 in 2007 - Linturis - and it been that way.
Currenly - UDA has upperhand.

Offline Nowayhaha

  • VIP
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 7495
  • Reputation: 5000
Re: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely
« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2024, 12:03:24 PM »
Pundit we are not talking of Mps we are talking of presidential votes . Reread my post
We have debated about Mps me you and Robina previously , we were on one side . Prior to 2022.
Trying to use Mps election as Presidential votes is a fallacy , Everyone know Meru in 1992 went to Kibaki . When you say Moi defeated Kibaki in 1992 in Meru you are just deceiving yourself , even Ford Kenya got Mp seats in Meru but certainly Presidential votes went to Kibaki .

Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 38396
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely
« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2024, 12:19:08 PM »
Mps reflect the presidential vote during the vote; Kenyans generally vote 3 piece suit.

What you are talking about is pre or before the vote;

We cannot use current mps to predict 2027 - it one small indicator - as they listen to ground - but we have to pick more indicators.

But if RIggyG will be popular - he will sweep Mps/MCAs too.

Pundit we are not talking of Mps we are talking of presidential votes . Reread my post
We have debated about Mps me you and Robina previously , we were on one side . Prior to 2022.
Trying to use Mps election as Presidential votes is a fallacy , Everyone know Meru in 1992 went to Kibaki . When you say Moi defeated Kibaki in 1992 in Meru you are just deceiving yourself , even Ford Kenya got Mp seats in Meru but certainly Presidential votes went to Kibaki .


Offline Nowayhaha

  • VIP
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 7495
  • Reputation: 5000
Re: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely
« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2024, 02:50:47 PM »

In the 90s not necessarily  , so Muite was elected in Ford Kenya ticket you want to claim Kikuyu/kabete voters elected Oginga Odinga ?

Mps reflect the presidential vote during the vote; Kenyans generally vote 3 piece suit.

What you are talking about is pre or before the vote;

We cannot use current mps to predict 2027 - it one small indicator - as they listen to ground - but we have to pick more indicators.

But if RIggyG will be popular - he will sweep Mps/MCAs too.

Pundit we are not talking of Mps we are talking of presidential votes . Reread my post
We have debated about Mps me you and Robina previously , we were on one side . Prior to 2022.
Trying to use Mps election as Presidential votes is a fallacy , Everyone know Meru in 1992 went to Kibaki . When you say Moi defeated Kibaki in 1992 in Meru you are just deceiving yourself , even Ford Kenya got Mp seats in Meru but certainly Presidential votes went to Kibaki .


Offline RV Pundit

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 38396
  • Reputation: 1074446
Re: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely
« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2024, 03:07:34 PM »
In analysis we call those wild cards/noise; There was only one Paul Muite; even now there are candidates elected on sheer strength of their personality or money; one or two everywhere.
In the 90s not necessarily  , so Muite was elected in Ford Kenya ticket you want to claim Kikuyu/kabete voters elected Oginga Odinga ?

Offline gout

  • VIP
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 4236
  • Reputation: 1374
Re: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2024, 01:42:33 AM »
Ruto soundbite from 2018 is the one which brought this sicko joke to life using the warped stereotype of Meru trust. Ukiambiwa kata unakata unauliza baadaye. This in hindsight of murders and abductions while Kindiki was at Interior.

Good for the goose.


Noway why arent tou addresing the fact that they are Kikuyus insulting Merus because of Kindiki??and these are genuine Kikuyus because have gone through ther handles and they arent pro government some I know so this is not even a Ruto scheme have told you in a hotel in nairobi i came across a group so bitter with Merus because of Kindiki becoming a DP luckily my looks dont betray me and the women were vicious eti how Merus hawana akili they are killers and bla bla bla honestly,  ni wajinga mark you this were women i concluded maybe they had a Meru boyfriend that dumped them.
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

Offline Njuri Ncheke

  • Moderator
  • Enigma
  • *
  • Posts: 2692
  • Reputation: 5000
Re: Kikuyus Stoking resentment amongst Merus slowly but surely
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2024, 09:25:40 AM »
Ruto soundbite from 2018 is the one which brought this sicko joke to life using the warped stereotype of Meru trust. Ukiambiwa kata unakata unauliza baadaye. This in hindsight of murders and abductions while Kindiki was at Interior.

Good for the goose.


Noway why arent tou addresing the fact that they are Kikuyus insulting Merus because of Kindiki??and these are genuine Kikuyus because have gone through ther handles and they arent pro government some I know so this is not even a Ruto scheme have told you in a hotel in nairobi i came across a group so bitter with Merus because of Kindiki becoming a DP luckily my looks dont betray me and the women were vicious eti how Merus hawana akili they are killers and bla bla bla honestly,  ni wajinga mark you this were women i concluded maybe they had a Meru boyfriend that dumped them.
Yep Ruto bana alituchomea sana hii kuongea yake mob,Merus used to be like that in the 90s  :D and before not now.