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Forum => Kenya Discussion => Topic started by: RV Pundit on October 17, 2017, 09:52:33 AM
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They are not ready for war of attrition.
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The suspension is so that they can stand with and support NASA supporters that have been maimed and killed by the murderous power hungry electoral fraudsters.
Nothing odd about this
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And you think you're ready for secession :) if you cannot handle this.
The suspension is so that they can stand with and support NASA supporters that have been maimed and killed by the murderous power hungry electoral fraudsters.
Nothing odd about this
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Indicative of hand to mouth situation all over Kenya. How to contain these underemployed masses who need to forage each hour is the elephant in the room across Africa in the next 100 years. One tomato is retailing at 10bob across Nairobi estates already!
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And you think you're ready for secession :) if you cannot handle this.
The suspension is so that they can stand with and support NASA supporters that have been maimed and killed by the murderous power hungry electoral fraudsters.
Nothing odd about this
Handle murderous electoral fraudsters? Dude like Miguna said, the People defeated that Moi chap....Jubilee will be child's play. They're already sweating after a few days of mungiki infiltrated demonstrations.
Secession is coming. The people have a right to a corruption, tribalism and crime free nation.
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Indicative of hand to mouth situation all over Kenya. How to contain these underemployed masses who need to forage each hour is the elephant in the room across Africa in the next 100 years. One tomato is retailing at 10bob across Nairobi estates already!
This is the real story out there. I know for a fact that I pay a lot less for a bag of sugar than my folks back in Endebess. A stone's throw from Mumias... it's a travesty.
Yesterday in The Guardian: The true cost of a plate of food: $1 in New York, $320 in South Sudan
Research reveals the stark inequality that drives the global hunger crisis, with the poorest people paying more than they earn in a day for a single meal
The world’s poorest pay more than a day’s wages for a single plate of food, according to a report from the World Food Programme, which reveals that the same bean stew can cost the average consumer in New York just $1.20, while the price tag is more than $320 in South Sudan.
The research, released to coincide with World Food Day on Monday, underlines the sheer discrepancy of consumers’ purchasing power around the world by measuring the relative cost of food in various countries against a single baseline.
'I was so hungry I ate water lilies': southern Africa's food crisis in a dozen dishes
Read more
“By adjusting for purchasing power, we shine a stark light on inequalities in the affordability of food,” said WFP’s executive director, David Beasley. “The results are, in many cases, staggering: if you thought a meal was expensive in, say, Norway – well, try Malawi.”
Economists at WFP took a standard meal of beans and pulses, paired with a locally preferred carbohydrate such as rice or cassava, priced it on a local scale, then compared it with the average daily budget derived from national GDP per capita figures. Using this as a baseline, WFP was then able to determine how much an average person in New York state would have to pay for the stew if they spent the same proportion of their daily income as people in other countries.
That $1.20 (90p) plate of rice and beans in New York, which is just 0.6% of the New Yorker’s average daily income, costs $8.27 in Guatemala, $27.77 in Nepal, and $72.65 in Haiti.
In South Sudan, the worst-ranking country in the study, the meal costs $321.70, or 155% of a person’s daily wages.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/oct/16/the-true-cost-of-a-plate-of-food-new-york-south-sudan-global-hunger-crisis
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The demos are about whose turn it is to grace the trough. Not the price of food.
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The demos are about whose turn it is to grace the trough. Not the price of food.
Well, this is the old "Sisi sote ni wezi" argument. It's no accident that most of the NASA doyens had a direct hand in drafting our beautiful constitution. I think they'll live by it when they assume power.
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The demos are about whose turn it is to grace the trough. Not the price of food.
Well, this is the old "Sisi sote ni wezi" argument. It's no accident that most of the NASA doyens had a direct hand in drafting our beautiful constitution. I think they'll live by it when they assume power.
So you mean we have to follow him blindly and not question. The NASA principals have been in power and didn't live by it. Don't even start on Kalonzo & Madvd, I said Raila sold out before :
-Joined Kanu to succeed Moi
-Backed flawed katiba for cheap political score
-Etc
This is about his ambitions not Wanjiku.
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The demos are about whose turn it is to grace the trough. Not the price of food.
Well, this is the old "Sisi sote ni wezi" argument. It's no accident that most of the NASA doyens had a direct hand in drafting our beautiful constitution. I think they'll live by it when they assume power.
So you mean we have to follow him blindly and not question. The NASA principals have been in power and didn't live by it. Don't even start on Kalonzo & Madvd, I said Raila sold out before :
-Joined Kanu to succeed Moi
-Backed flawed katiba for cheap political score
-Etc
This is about his ambitions not Wanjiku.
Well if Kibaki morphed from "Indestructible Mugumu tree" to democrat during his DP days leading to the victory in Dec 2002, then anything goes. I must admit that I am suspicious of mega thief Weta and Anglo Leasing Mudamba.... I am actually surprised that Kalonzo hasn't legged it yet, so we may have indeed turned a corner.
I hang my hat on the beautiful constitution as non have been in power since promulgation. Their conduct might be very different. We already know what the thieving crew would do with it, and it's not that dangerous to allow others to show us what they have.
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It's a shame you have decide to reduce yourself to such silly arguments just to appear neutral.
The demos are about whose turn it is to grace the trough. Not the price of food.
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IT’S DARKNESS AT NOON IN KENYA – AND IT WILL GET WORSE
By BARRACK MULUKA
A lot of stuff that is happening now should be seen within the context of the state trying to create an atmosphere of fear ahead of the repeat presidential poll. When you hear Jubilee vice chairman David Murathe say after the poll President Uhuru Kenyatta is going to be more brutal, ruthless and lethal, that is just the curtain raiser.
We are seeing the police killings, some people have been choreographed to say that NASA flagbearer Raila Odinga and his running mate should be taken to the ICC, police raids on citizens like Jimmy Wanjigi – all these things are curtain raisers to people being intimidated. What is going to happen is despite the protests by the opposition, the IEBC and Jubilee who are essentially on two sides of the same coin will treat Kenyans to some kind of election and Uhuru will be declared the winner. Thereafter, it will be a total clampdown on any dissenting voice and anybody who seems to be even remotely associated with sponsoring NASA.
We are actually seeing darkness at midday in Kenya. The culture of intimidation has come back and it is going to be on the rise. Kenyans must begin pressing up for very hard times. The opposition is not just going to stop because Uhuru has been declared President and inaugurated. It is not going to matter that the European Union has apparently given the IEBC the thumps up, the protests will also increase. The business community that is complaining had better talk to Uhuru and Jubilee and the IEBC – because it is going to be impossible for the opposition to live through another five years of a Presidency that has ascended to power in a controversial manner.
People like the EU are part of the Kenyan problem because they have closed their eyes to what is happening – such as the raids on Wanjigi’s homes and arrest orders for NASA chief executive officer Norman Magaya. The EU, the Diplomatic Corps and faith-based community have closed their eyes. In their own naïve way, they imagine that after the IEBC controversially declares Uhuru the President-elect, then normalcy will return and go back to business.
Unfortunately, this will not happen because the agitation for a free, fair and credible election will come in a crescendo. Anyone disillusioned that this kind of clampdown will shut up citizens is actually completely deceiving himself.
The writer is a political analyst
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bryan it's okay to back your guys without the naivete. The only reason the NASA amigos are together is not shared vision for Wanjiku or Fatuma, rather lack of choice in the forced marriage. Recall upto 2012 VP Kalonzo & Raila were fierce rivals. "Watermelon", "Judas" where did those come from?
If you actually believe Kenya would transform under any political party :D There is no martial law or oppressive taxation or even Nyayo torture squads. Kenya is open society and poverty is caused by insulation, polarization and lack of exposure. There is equal opportunity for success or misery, it's not limited by tribe.
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How are they silly? Have you seen anti-corruption demos ever? Oh no, that would seal the sleaze loopholes and there would be nothing to fight for. The only loopholes worth sealing are the ones that deny Raila power.
It's a shame you have decide to reduce yourself to such silly arguments just to appear neutral.
The demos are about whose turn it is to grace the trough. Not the price of food.
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Seriously? Were you born yesterday?
bryan it's okay to back your guys without the naivete. The only reason the NASA amigos are together is not shared vision for Wanjiku or Fatuma, rather lack of choice in the forced marriage. Recall upto 2012 VP Kalonzo & Raila were fierce rivals. "Watermelon", "Judas" where did those come from?
If you actually believe Kenya would transforma under any political party :D There is no martial law or oppressive taxation or even Nyayo torture squads. Kenya is open society and poverty is caused by insulation, polarization and lack of exposure. There is equal opportunity for success or misery, it's not limited by tribe.
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Who was going around talking about NYS, Eurobond and all the corruptions in kenya and yet you still say that Jubilee and NASA are the same. I do not think you are serious anymore and worth even engaging.
How are they silly? Have you seen anti-corruption demos ever? Oh no, that would seal the sleaze loopholes and there would be nothing to fight for. The only loopholes worth sealing are the ones that deny Raila power.
It's a shame you have decide to reduce yourself to such silly arguments just to appear neutral.
The demos are about whose turn it is to grace the trough. Not the price of food.
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The only time we have violence and demos is when there is the question of power. Mega scandals attract a few press conferences and that's it. Without corrupt opportunities none would even fight for power hence the silent agreement to go slow on it.
Ati the demos are to liberate Wanjiku... by stopping corruption.
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bryan it's okay to back your guys without the naivete. The only reason the NASA amigos are together is not shared vision for Wanjiku or Fatuma, rather lack of choice in the forced marriage. Recall upto 2012 VP Kalonzo & Raila were fierce rivals. "Watermelon", "Judas" where did those come from?
If you actually believe Kenya would transform under any political party :D There is no martial law or oppressive taxation or even Nyayo torture squads. Kenya is open society and poverty is caused by insulation, polarization and lack of exposure. There is equal opportunity for success or misery, it's not limited by tribe.
You do not believe the above do you? Have you reviewed Uhuruto appointment schedule? Have you seen the skewed "development"? Cancellation of loans? Coffee loans, illegal title deeds etc?
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IT’S DARKNESS AT NOON IN KENYA – AND IT WILL GET WORSE
By BARRACK MULUKA
A lot of stuff that is happening now should be seen within the context of the state trying to create an atmosphere of fear ahead of the repeat presidential poll. When you hear Jubilee vice chairman David Murathe say after the poll President Uhuru Kenyatta is going to be more brutal, ruthless and lethal, that is just the curtain raiser.
We are seeing the police killings, some people have been choreographed to say that NASA flagbearer Raila Odinga and his running mate should be taken to the ICC, police raids on citizens like Jimmy Wanjigi – all these things are curtain raisers to people being intimidated. What is going to happen is despite the protests by the opposition, the IEBC and Jubilee who are essentially on two sides of the same coin will treat Kenyans to some kind of election and Uhuru will be declared the winner. Thereafter, it will be a total clampdown on any dissenting voice and anybody who seems to be even remotely associated with sponsoring NASA.
We are actually seeing darkness at midday in Kenya. The culture of intimidation has come back and it is going to be on the rise. Kenyans must begin pressing up for very hard times. The opposition is not just going to stop because Uhuru has been declared President and inaugurated. It is not going to matter that the European Union has apparently given the IEBC the thumps up, the protests will also increase. The business community that is complaining had better talk to Uhuru and Jubilee and the IEBC – because it is going to be impossible for the opposition to live through another five years of a Presidency that has ascended to power in a controversial manner.
People like the EU are part of the Kenyan problem because they have closed their eyes to what is happening – such as the raids on Wanjigi’s homes and arrest orders for NASA chief executive officer Norman Magaya. The EU, the Diplomatic Corps and faith-based community have closed their eyes. In their own naïve way, they imagine that after the IEBC controversially declares Uhuru the President-elect, then normalcy will return and go back to business.
Unfortunately, this will not happen because the agitation for a free, fair and credible election will come in a crescendo. Anyone disillusioned that this kind of clampdown will shut up citizens is actually completely deceiving himself.
The writer is a political analyst
He’s a NASWA henchman
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Looks like they are calling off demos indefinitely even after High Court lifted the ban.
From Babu’s latest statement
Our protests will stay suspended...
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bryan it's okay to back your guys without the naivete. The only reason the NASA amigos are together is not shared vision for Wanjiku or Fatuma, rather lack of choice in the forced marriage. Recall upto 2012 VP Kalonzo & Raila were fierce rivals. "Watermelon", "Judas" where did those come from?
If you actually believe Kenya would transform under any political party :D There is no martial law or oppressive taxation or even Nyayo torture squads. Kenya is open society and poverty is caused by insulation, polarization and lack of exposure. There is equal opportunity for success or misery, it's not limited by tribe.
You do not believe the above do you? Have you reviewed Uhuruto appointment schedule? Have you seen the skewed "development"? Cancellation of loans? Coffee loans, illegal title deeds etc?
I see. You should visit Kirinyaga or Meru and discover those pampered Kenyans do not meet the UN $2 er day poverty index. Kenya's tribalism just exacerbates the battle for equality in misery. Like Pundit was saying how big is the civil service - 200K - and everyone is crying that 30% of those are Kikuyu. Out of 15m employable adults.
That's what I mean no party would transform anything. With $20b national budget - partly borrowed - you don't even get national bursary. That's a lie being peddled. People are wondering why they are still poor and jobless since they now have a tribesmate as governor. Even at 50% devolution we will be poorer than ever.
By opportunity I don't mean to be a clerk at the government offie. Or the right to grow uneconomical crops. I mean the opportunity to build things. Create industry. Run enterprise. All have access to capital and information. Open society is the real democracy.
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Robina you really summarized the issue. For now it is best for wanjiku to ignore the political class and continue suffering silently
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You have to resolve the political issues first before you can have stability and economic growth. The pundit school of thought which prescribes that you can have corruption, tribalism, economic marginalization, two tribes ruling for 20 years and still achieve economic development is silly. If you are really concerned about the suffering of regular Kenyans then stop rubbishing those who are trying to find a political solution to our problems. This winner take all presidential system where kikuyus and Kalenjins have figured out a way to rig the elections and stay in power to perpetuity is not acceptable and therefore will not work. We will not be colonized by Arap Mashamba. The only way forward is to go back to the drawing boards and design a system which is politically fair and then we will get political stability and then economic growth and economic development will follow. You cannot climb this tree from the top.
bryan it's okay to back your guys without the naivete. The only reason the NASA amigos are together is not shared vision for Wanjiku or Fatuma, rather lack of choice in the forced marriage. Recall upto 2012 VP Kalonzo & Raila were fierce rivals. "Watermelon", "Judas" where did those come from?
If you actually believe Kenya would transform under any political party :D There is no martial law or oppressive taxation or even Nyayo torture squads. Kenya is open society and poverty is caused by insulation, polarization and lack of exposure. There is equal opportunity for success or misery, it's not limited by tribe.
You do not believe the above do you? Have you reviewed Uhuruto appointment schedule? Have you seen the skewed "development"? Cancellation of loans? Coffee loans, illegal title deeds etc?
I see. You should visit Kirinyaga or Meru and discover those pampered Kenyans do not meet the UN $2 er day poverty index. Kenya's tribalism just exacerbates the battle for equality in misery. Like Pundit was saying how big is the civil service - 200K - and everyone is crying that 30% of those are Kikuyu. Out of 15m employable adults.
That's what I mean no party would transform anything. With $20b national budget - partly borrowed - you don't even get national bursary. That's a lie being peddled. People are wondering why they are still poor and jobless since they now have a tribesmate as governor. Even at 50% devolution we will be poorer than ever.
By opportunity I don't mean to be a clerk at the government offie. Or the right to grow uneconomical crops. I mean the opportunity to build things. Create industry. Run enterprise. All have access to capital and information. Open society is the real democracy.
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We had the opportunity for that equitable system... instead we ended up with pure presidency worse than before. Championed by the people now clamoring to overthrow it.
That's my contention about the present struggle. It's not about the people but the ruling class.
You have to resolve the political issues first before you can have stability and economic growth. The pundit school of thought which prescribes that you can have corruption, tribalism, economic marginalization, two tribes ruling for 20 years and still achieve economic development is silly. If you are really concerned about the suffering of regular Kenyans then stop rubbishing those who are trying to find a political solution to our problems. This winner take all presidential system where kikuyus and Kalenjins have figured out a way to rig the elections and stay in power to perpetuity is not acceptable and therefore will not work. We will not be colonized by Arap Mashamba. The only way forward is to go back to the drawing boards and design a system which is politically fair and then we will get political stability and then economic growth and economic development will follow. You cannot climb this tree from the top.
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I think we have enough examples to show that dictatorship doesn't determine the economic fate of a family or company or country. I know many families who have suceeded but are ran by small despots in their villages. We know at micro-level that people who succeed generally worked harder, were more responsible, saved more, invested more, didn't abuse drugs and etc - they didn't have to be happiest democratic family out there. We know of China and many countries who give lip services to democracy and human rights - but have lifted many out of poverty. We have big democracies like India or Kenya - wallowing in poverty. Dubai & entire middle east is not democratic - but they have developed.
Economic development is different ball game. Kenyans need to focus on reforms that deliver economic benefits - lets argue about which gok will electricity our village more, which one will provide more roads, more clean and piped water, more free schools, free medical care, more security services, etc etc. And go slow on political & social reforms. It been a waste of time.
We need to focus on bread and butter issues. At end of the day one or two people will ran the show. Not tribes. Ruto or Uhuru don't equate to Kalenjin or Kikuyu running the show. I am always excited when I read reforms touching on bread-n-butter issues.
Expending all the energy to make Raila PORK will not help anybody who is not close to him.
You have to resolve the political issues first before you can have stability and economic growth. The pundit school of thought which prescribes that you can have corruption, tribalism, economic marginalization, two tribes ruling for 20 years and still achieve economic development is silly. If you are really concerned about the suffering of regular Kenyans then stop rubbishing those who are trying to find a political solution to our problems. This winner take all presidential system where kikuyus and Kalenjins have figured out a way to rig the elections and stay in power to perpetuity is not acceptable and therefore will not work. We will not be colonized by Arap Mashamba. The only way forward is to go back to the drawing boards and design a system which is politically fair and then we will get political stability and then economic growth and economic development will follow. You cannot climb this tree from the top.
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You need economic stability whether through dictatorship like in Rwanda or through democracy. Kenya is way past the point where you can institute a stable dictatorship like Rwanda because Kenyans have already took a bite at the forbidden fruit and are no longer innocent. The only way to institute a stable government in Kenya is through a negotiated democracy where power is shared by all major stakeholders in a meaningful way. So long as you are still harboring thoughts of winner take all Kikuyu/kalenjin domination aided by a well oiled election rigging machine then you can forget about a stable governance that can produce economic prosperity for all.
I think we have enough examples to show that dictatorship doesn't determine the economic fate of a family or company or country. I know many families who have suceeded but are ran by small despots in their villages. We know at micro-level that people who succeed generally worked harder, were more responsible, saved more, invested more, didn't abuse drugs and etc - they didn't have to be happiest democratic family out there. We know of China and many countries who give lip services to democracy and human rights - but have lifted many out of poverty. We have big democracies like India or Kenya - wallowing in poverty. Dubai & entire middle east is not democratic - but they have developed.
Economic development is different ball game. Kenyans need to focus on reforms that deliver economic benefits - lets argue about which gok will electricity our village more, which one will provide more roads, more clean and piped water, more free schools, free medical care, more security services, etc etc. And go slow on political & social reforms. It been a waste of time.
We need to focus on bread and butter issues. At end of the day one or two people will ran the show. Not tribes. Ruto or Uhuru don't equate to Kalenjin or Kikuyu running the show. I am always excited when I read reforms touching on bread-n-butter issues.
Expending all the energy to make Raila PORK will not help anybody who is not close to him.
You have to resolve the political issues first before you can have stability and economic growth. The pundit school of thought which prescribes that you can have corruption, tribalism, economic marginalization, two tribes ruling for 20 years and still achieve economic development is silly. If you are really concerned about the suffering of regular Kenyans then stop rubbishing those who are trying to find a political solution to our problems. This winner take all presidential system where kikuyus and Kalenjins have figured out a way to rig the elections and stay in power to perpetuity is not acceptable and therefore will not work. We will not be colonized by Arap Mashamba. The only way forward is to go back to the drawing boards and design a system which is politically fair and then we will get political stability and then economic growth and economic development will follow. You cannot climb this tree from the top.
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You have to resolve the political issues first before you can have stability and economic growth. The pundit school of thought which prescribes that you can have corruption, tribalism, economic marginalization, two tribes ruling for 20 years and still achieve economic development is silly. If you are really concerned about the suffering of regular Kenyans then stop rubbishing those who are trying to find a political solution to our problems. This winner take all presidential system where kikuyus and Kalenjins have figured out a way to rig the elections and stay in power to perpetuity is not acceptable and therefore will not work. We will not be colonized by Arap Mashamba. The only way forward is to go back to the drawing boards and design a system which is politically fair and then we will get political stability and then economic growth and economic development will follow. You cannot climb this tree from the top.
bryan it's okay to back your guys without the naivete. The only reason the NASA amigos are together is not shared vision for Wanjiku or Fatuma, rather lack of choice in the forced marriage. Recall upto 2012 VP Kalonzo & Raila were fierce rivals. "Watermelon", "Judas" where did those come from?
If you actually believe Kenya would transform under any political party :D There is no martial law or oppressive taxation or even Nyayo torture squads. Kenya is open society and poverty is caused by insulation, polarization and lack of exposure. There is equal opportunity for success or misery, it's not limited by tribe.
You do not believe the above do you? Have you reviewed Uhuruto appointment schedule? Have you seen the skewed "development"? Cancellation of loans? Coffee loans, illegal title deeds etc?
I see. You should visit Kirinyaga or Meru and discover those pampered Kenyans do not meet the UN $2 er day poverty index. Kenya's tribalism just exacerbates the battle for equality in misery. Like Pundit was saying how big is the civil service - 200K - and everyone is crying that 30% of those are Kikuyu. Out of 15m employable adults.
That's what I mean no party would transform anything. With $20b national budget - partly borrowed - you don't even get national bursary. That's a lie being peddled. People are wondering why they are still poor and jobless since they now have a tribesmate as governor. Even at 50% devolution we will be poorer than ever.
By opportunity I don't mean to be a clerk at the government offie. Or the right to grow uneconomical crops. I mean the opportunity to build things. Create industry. Run enterprise. All have access to capital and information. Open society is the real democracy.
Yep. You can't divorce economic fortunes of mwananchi from the politics(not necessarily political system) of the place. They are two sides of the same coin.
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We don’t need strict western democracy, just less and less of corruption and more of Equity and good old brains and we good to go
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You cannot even get to deal with corruption and the equitable distribution of resources until you agree on the political framework upon which all this will take place. The sooner people like Ouru and Ruto realizes that the time that you could do a Rwanda in Kenya is over, the better for all of us. The plot to institute dictatorship by perfecting the instruments of rigging elections is already thwarted. Arap Mashamba had already heavily invested in this infrastructure which they thought was full-proof and would assure them the presidency for 100 years.
We now have to go back to the drawing board. Whether its the strict western democracy or some concoction, the bottom line is that it must be agreed upon and open for re negotiation each time the parties are not happy. A diversified nation like ours is like a marriage whose terms has to be constantly renegotiated with changes in circumstances so that everybody is relatively happy and content with the rules of engagement. When Ruto and Ouru signaled that they have figured a way to keep the government shifting like a ping pong game between kikuyus and Kalenjins, then the arrangement we currently have became unworkable and unacceptable.
We don’t need strict western democracy, just less and less of corruption and more of Equity and good old brains and we good to go
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You cannot even get to deal with corruption and the equitable distribution of resources until you agree on the political framework upon which all this will take place. The sooner people like Ouru and Ruto realizes that the time that you could do a Rwanda in Kenya is over, the better for all of us. The plot to institute dictatorship by perfecting the instruments of rigging elections is already thwarted. Arap Mashamba had already heavily invested in this infrastructure which they thought was full-proof and would assure them the presidency for 100 years.
We now have to go back to the drawing board. Whether its the strict western democracy or some concoction, the bottom line is that it must be agreed upon and open for re negotiation each time the parties are not happy. A diversified nation like ours is like a marriage whose terms has to be constantly renegotiated with changes in circumstances so that everybody is relatively happy and content with the rules of engagement. When Ruto and Ouru signaled that they have figured a way to keep the government shifting like a ping pong game between kikuyus and Kalenjins, then the arrangement we currently have became unworkable and unacceptable.
We don’t need strict western democracy, just less and less of corruption and more of Equity and good old brains and we good to go
Yeah, we must include Babu into the mix
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Yeah that is all I am reading - we must re-configure and reform until we somehow get Babu into power. An impossible feat it seem.
Yeah, we must include Babu into the mix
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:D the other day some bitter liberals wanted to replace the EC with the tyranny of numbers... after Trump won. They had a long voodoo narrative why we need the reforms which they said are long overdue.
Kichwa can't explain why he supported the new constitution with a pure presidency and 15% devolution. Or why he supported Kanu-NDP merger. Of course he now wants reforms - to parliamentary federalism - complete with a new IEBC. It's a mere concidence that Raila wants the same thing.
Yeah that is all I am reading - we must re-configure and reform until we somehow get Babu into power. An impossible feat it seem.
Yeah, we must include Babu into the mix
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:D the other day some bitter liberals wanted to replace the EC with the tyranny of numbers... after Trump won. They had a long voodoo narrative why we need the reforms which they said are long overdue.
Kichwa can't explain why he supported the new constitution with a pure presidency and 15% devolution. Or why he supported Kanu-NDP merger. Of course he now wants reforms - to parliamentary federalism - complete with a new IEBC. It's a mere concidence that Raila wants the same thing.
Yeah that is all I am reading - we must re-configure and reform until we somehow get Babu into power. An impossible feat it seem.
Yeah, we must include Babu into the mix
His ready response is it is cheap to reduce everything to Babu, meaning it is cheap to call him out
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:D the other day some bitter liberals wanted to replace the EC with the tyranny of numbers... after Trump won. They had a long voodoo narrative why we need the reforms which they said are long overdue.
Kichwa can't explain why he supported the new constitution with a pure presidency and 15% devolution. Or why he supported Kanu-NDP merger. Of course he now wants reforms - to parliamentary federalism - complete with a new IEBC. It's a mere concidence that Raila wants the same thing.
Yeah that is all I am reading - we must re-configure and reform until we somehow get Babu into power. An impossible feat it seem.
Yeah, we must include Babu into the mix
His ready response is it is cheap to reduce everything to Babu, meaning it is cheap to call him out
Pastor please don't feed me words. This is not sarcasm - I actually believe Kichwa wants to reform for posterity.
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:D the other day some bitter liberals wanted to replace the EC with the tyranny of numbers... after Trump won. They had a long voodoo narrative why we need the reforms which they said are long overdue.
Kichwa can't explain why he supported the new constitution with a pure presidency and 15% devolution. Or why he supported Kanu-NDP merger. Of course he now wants reforms - to parliamentary federalism - complete with a new IEBC. It's a mere concidence that Raila wants the same thing.
Yeah that is all I am reading - we must re-configure and reform until we somehow get Babu into power. An impossible feat it seem.
Yeah, we must include Babu into the mix
His ready response is it is cheap to reduce everything to Babu, meaning it is cheap to call him out
Pastor please don't feed me words. This is not sarcasm - I actually believe Kichwa wants to reform for posterity.
Me too, so long as Babu is in the mix.